15 yr old dating adults. Yolo or hold back?

[Nicko]

Hey hope everyone is doing well
As you know im stupidly young *cough *cough 14 turning 15 in 1 month but anyway

Link to my journal to see the full convo yadi yada
:https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/15-year-old-meets-seduction.23809/#post-125835

Note:she is prob 20ish lmao has a job
i pulled tdy my first number Close and figured out the logistics(she is busy on week ends too) in person im unsure how should i proceed.Could be a fake number since i called and it didnt rang(mad sus) but thats irrelevant.For say i get numbers and set up logistics to meet.
But how should i proceed on the date. .
I Need advice for:
1(in general date scenarios) .should i hold back on escalation on a date because of my age(she will catch a case if anyone finds out unless i never said a word about my age ie. Keep it a secret ) or yolo this
2(in general date scenarios) . Don't escalate but get the experience of being on a date without escalation?
3(about the girl who i got ber phone number) . I honestly think going on the date is fine but sexual escalation may be outright illegal since im straight up jailbait lol . The option is i can think of is to come clean with and tell her my age then friendzone her and find shorties in my legal age group through her social circle since she lives relatively near me and lots of my white girl.. friends know pretty much most people (through family) in my suburb. She would make an interesting adult friend i guess.

I personally feel thst i want to Escalate for that experience on a date but then again ahe is 20. I know, i know i can learn escalation through social circle, find girls that are my age in cold approach or through parties. I know from a friend it is possible to escalate regardless of age whether ur under 18 or not and he slept with a 23 yr old, he could be lying but his seduction skills are very much real ie. Sex talk, dominance, opening and ect. But should i really pass on this??

 

[Teevster]

As someone who started (i.e. joined the seduction community) at the same age as you (in my late 14's - I am 28 now, but it feels like yesterday) here are my opinions.

1(in general date scenarios) .should i hold back on escalation on a date because of my age(she will catch a case if anyone finds out unless i never said a word about my age ie. Keep it a secret ) or yolo this

She is the one at risk having sex with you, not the other way around. I hope you as a good person won't cause any trouble for her. If you tell her your age, you are likely to not get the lay (unless you shag girls around your age). Keep it secret (however once you hit like 17-18 ish and with good game, you can start being honest about it) and proceed as usual.

2(in general date scenarios) . Don't escalate but get the experience of being on a date without escalation?

Why would you do that?

3(about the girl who i got ber phone number) . I honestly think going on the date is fine but sexual escalation may be outright illegal since im straight up jailbait lol .

Illegal for her, not for you. And unless YOU make a problem out of it, there should be no problems for her. And since you won't make a problem out of it, then there are no problems!

The option is i can think of is to come clean with and tell her my age then friendzone her and find shorties in my legal age group through her social circle since she lives relatively near me and lots of my white girl.. friends know pretty much most people (through family) in my suburb. She would make an interesting adult friend i guess.

This is BS. She has no interest in becoming your adult friend.

I know, i know i can learn escalation through social circle, find girls that are my age in cold approach or through parties.

This is actually risky, practicing escalation on girls you know, since if you fail, you can get a serious social setback (since you know the girl). Here (in a cold approach setting), if you fail you literally have no other consequences than losing the girl. Not saying you shouldn't be careful, but compared to adults, you are at even less at risk of drawbacks than anybody else.

I know from a friend it is possible to escalate regardless of age whether ur under 18 or not and he slept with a 23 yr old, he could be lying but his seduction skills are very much real ie. Sex talk, dominance, opening and ect.

I can vouch for this Yes it is possible. Most of the girls I was fucking when I was like 16 and upwards (at 14-15 I was still stuck with homeparties) were in the range of 16-44, the median being like 24.

MY response:

BIG YOLO.

Best,
Alek
Formerly known as TVA_Oslo, aka. "the young prodigy".

 

[Nicko]

As someone who started (i.e. joined the seduction community) at the same age as you (in my late 14's - I am 28 now, but it feels like yesterday) here are my opinion.



She is the one at risk having sex with you, not the other way around. I hope you as a good person won't cause any trouble for her. If you tell her your age, you are likely to not get the lay (unless you shag girls around your age). Keep it secret(however once you hit like 17-18 ish and with good game, you can start being honest about it) and proceed as usual.



Why would you do that?



Illegal for her, not for you. And unless YOU make a problem out of it, there should be no problems for her. And since you won't make a problem out of it, then there are no problems!



This is BS. She has no interest in becoming your adult friend.



This is actually risky, practicing escalation on girls you know, since if you fail, you can get a serious social setback (since you know the girl). Here, if you fail you literally have no other consequences than losing the girl. Not saying you shouldn't be careful, but compared to adults, you are even less at risk for drawbacks than anybody else.




I can vouch for this Yes it is possible. Most of the girls I was fucking when I was like 16 and upwards (at 14-15 I was still stuck with homeparties) where in the range of 16-44, the median being like 24.

MY response:

BIG YOLO.

Best,
Alek
Formerly known as TVA_Oslo, aka. "the young prodigy".

Really Thanks alot for ur input ur an absolute Chad. u really hit the nail on this and quick questions when it comes to sex im rocking a prebuesent 3 inch chopstick(hasn't grown in 2 years lmao asian genes smh ) but thats not the issue, is it possible to still make her cum with it that's what im worried since I wouldn't want any sex regret for not performing well. Also have u encountered a situation of sex regret while being underage with a girl while is obviously older then u and wtf do at that point.
Again thanks alot ☺☺ u da man BIG YOLO TIME IT IS
-Nicko

 

[PrancingRabbit]

Nicko, only 19% of girls can get off with penetrative sex alone anyway. You have a lot to learn about the vagina-- a good thing!--and if you can get a girl off in any manner you are doing just fine. There's a lot on the internet about it. Incidentally, sex at 14 or even 15 or 16 blows my mind. I mean, I guess I could have done it, but even when I was 20 I was just happy with dry humping. After maybe 10 sexual encounters prior to 21 y.o., no lays lol. I was also somewhat of a late bloomer...

 

[Nicko]

Nicko, only 19% of girls can get off with penetrative sex alone anyway. You have a lot to learn about the vagina-- a good thing!--and if you can get a girl off in any manner you are doing just fine. There's a lot on the internet about it. Incidentally, sex at 14 or even 15 or 16 blows my mind. I mean, I guess I could have done it, but even when I was 20 I was just happy with dry humping. After maybe 10 sexual encounters prior to 21 y.o., no lays lol. I was also somewhat of a late bloomer...

Thanks XS10 for ur insight, now i dont have to worry too much(≧◡≦). i think its just cuz im a horny teenager or my sex drive is losing its mind when I'm doing nofap around 2 months in. a good friend of mine raised in the hood and turned to be a natural at the age of 14 got laid with a 16 yr chick at the time after his gf cheated on him, he was really determined to pull his shit together and that blew my mind. Now his 17 and slept over 300(proclaimed but his seduction are legit that he may be unaware of lmao). He inspired me to grind even harder than last time, cold approach more girls than last time, keep learning, better posture, work out harder. I hope you are inspired too to keep grinding. Don't worry about being a late bloomer(some people never reach their potential when they die *scary thought*) just keep ur heads up and keep grinding you would be surprise how far you can go
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Keep hustling and happy hunting ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
-Nicko

 

[Teevster]

Really Thanks alot for ur input ur an absolute Chad. is it possible to still make her cum with it that's what im worried since I wouldn't want any sex regret for not performing well. Also have u encountered a situation of sex regret while being underage with a girl while is obviously older then u and wtf do at that point.
Again thanks alot ☺☺ u da man BIG YOLO TIME IT IS
-Nicko

Hey.

I wouldn't worry too much about your age and the fact that you are prebuesent if I were you - for two simple reasons: 1. it is natural and we all go (or rather "went") through it and 2. It will pass (you will grow up). You WILL get older so the issues surrounding being young will eventually disapear. I know you know all this, but it is key to get a reminder at times. And trust me, you grow faster than you think.

I think it is a wise plan of you to start out so young. Sure you have some handicaps (especially logistically - since you can't enter clubs, and you probably have shitty logistics) as well as maybe looking a bit bit younger. However, you probably heard many adults (and especially teachers) say that you learn the fastest when you are young and that is very true for all school related stuff, but it also holds true for pick up and seduction. And if you get deep into pick up and seduction you will eventually notice how lots of the things we talk about here links to biology, sociology, psychology and even philosophy. You may hate your English classes (or the classes in your native language in the country you live in) but in retrospect you will see them as some of the most useful lessons in life which may also benefit you in seduction (rethorics, construction of sentences, philosophy of language, semantics and so on... we talk about this in seduction too!)

Anyway I know young people like you do not like hearing what I am about to say, but it is very true: your adolescence is only a small fraction of your life and hence you need to think long term - always. This goes for carrier and future studies of course, but it also holds true for seduction. Yes you may have some practical limitations right now, but they will make you a better seducer later. From my own experience, but also from what I have seen: the few guys who start getting into seduction from a very young age (before 18) almost always end up turning into super seducers pretty fast. I think part of the reasons relates to the fact that young people learn faster, but also because young people seem more motivated and have more energy. They also (believe it or not) have more time at their disposition to study seduction (if you though you had too much homework... well wait till you get older). But most importantly, you have less negative beliefs to get rid of and bad habits to unlearn, since being so young, you never acquired them in the first place. So instead of starting from "-20" , you start from 0! A lot of the work we as coaches have to do, consists in helping men unlearning many bad habits and get rid of many bad mindsets. From reading your posts, you seem to have none of these, or at far less than a say 30 y old man who has lived a pretty shitty social life for years.

u really hit the nail on this and quick questions when it comes to sex im rocking a prebuesent 3 inch chopstick(hasn't grown in 2 years lmao asian genes smh ) but thats not the issue.

I wouldn't worry too much about this. It will grow eventually. I too had a smaller dick than the girls' other sex partners (who were always older than me). The girls I had sex with would usually have sex with much older guys with bigger dicks.

Did it EVER cause any issues? NO. NEVER.

is it possible to still make her cum with it that's what im worried since I wouldn't want any sex regret for not performing well.

You most likely won't - even with a big dick. Most women do not orgasm through vaginal penile penetration (it is possible but hard). The clit is the most common way to make women cum. If you want to make her cum, focus on developing deadly oral sex skills. You can get her to orgasm through vaginal penetration, but usually through certain particular fingering techniques such as squirting techniques. I recommend reading some guides on sex. Articles on Girlschase are good, but you may also check out the classics from David Share and Daniel Rose.

But just because they won't orgasm through vaginal penetration, it doesn't mean they do not enjoy it and that you cannot get better at it!

Also have u encountered a situation of sex regret while being underage with a girl while is obviously older then u and wtf do at that point.

Not that I can remember. Do not mentally construct issues until you actually face them IRL.

Best,
Teevster

 

[Nicko]

Hey.

I wouldn't worry too much about your age and the fact that you are prebuesent if I were you - for two simple reasons: 1. it is natural and we all go (or rather "went") through it and 2. It will pass (you will grow up). You WILL get older so the issues surrounding being young will eventually disapear. I know you know all this, but it is key to get a reminder at times. And trust me, you grow faster than you think.

I think it is a wise plan of you to start out so young. Sure you have some handicaps (especially logistically - since you can't enter clubs, and you probably have shitty logistics) as well as maybe looking a bit bit younger. However, you probably heard many adults (and especially teachers) say that you learn the fastest when you are young and that is very true for all school related stuff, but it also holds true for pick up and seduction. And if you get deep into pick up and seduction you will eventually notice how lots of the things we talk about here links to biology, sociology, psychology and even philosophy. You may hate your English classes (or the classes in your native language in the country you live in) but in retrospect you will see them as some of the most useful lessons in life which may also benefit you in seduction (rethorics, construction of sentences, philosophy of language, semantics and so on... we talk about this in seduction too!)

Anyway I know young people like you do not like hearing what I am about to say, but it is very true: your adolescence is only a small fraction of your life and hence you need to think long term - always. This goes for carrier and future studies of course, but it also holds true for seduction. Yes you may have some practical limitations right now, but they will make you a better seducer later. From my own experience, but also from what I have seen: the few guys who start getting into seduction from a very young age (before 18) almost always end up turning into super seducers pretty fast. I think part of the reasons relates to the fact that young people learn faster, but also because young people seem more motivated and have more energy. They also (believe it or not) have more time at their disposition to study seduction (if you though you had too much homework... well wait till you get older). But most importantly, you have less negative beliefs to get rid of and bad habits to unlearn, since being so young, you never acquired them in the first place. So instead of starting from "-20" , you start from 0! A lot of the work we as coaches have to do, consists in helping men unlearning many bad habits and get rid of many bad mindsets. From reading your posts, you seem to have none of these, or at far less than a say 30 y old man who has lived a pretty shitty social life for years.



I wouldn't worry too much about this. It will grow eventually. I too had a smaller dick than the girls' other sex partners (who were always older than me). The girls I had sex with would usually have sex with much older guys with bigger dicks.

Did it EVER cause any issues? NO. NEVER.



You most likely won't - even with a big dick. Most women do not orgasm through vaginal penile penetration (it is possible but hard). The clit is the most common way to make women cum. If you want to make her cum, focus on developing deadly oral sex skills. You can get her to orgasm through vaginal penetration, but usually through certain particular fingering techniques such as squirting techniques. I recommend reading some guides on sex. Articles on Girlschase are good, but you may also check out the classics from David Share and Daniel Rose.

But just because they won't orgasm through vaginal penetration, it doesn't mean they do not enjoy it and that you cannot get better at it!



Not that I can remember. Do not mentally construct issues until you actually face them IRL.

Best,
Teevster

Perfection, can't thank you enough for taking ur time to write this, u absolute legend i love u <3 no homo lol. I can definitely now see the correlations you made with academics and seduction and how it will effect you later in life. I definitely have a fuck load of time to spend on seduction in general( not many homeworks yet)+school holiday is just around the corner. ill put in the work and work with the disadvantages im given currently and make everyone proud!
╭( ･ㅂ･)و ̑̑ and eventually ill be able to start helping people on this forum

ill definitely take everyone's advices to heart especially urs and hope to see everyone on LR soon ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
-Nicko