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36 y.o. does not want ons? or just not enough connection?

thats_a_penis_disgustang

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So I had two dates this Sunday.

First date was a 23 year old girl, very very pretty, even by Russian girls standards. On the first date I tried my hardest, as I always do, to prove her that I will be the best boyfriend in the world, we touched, we even kissed, we went to my apartment, I jerked off her pussy, but then she had an iron Wall of China when it comes to actually having sex.

I saw that she really likes me, but maybe because she really liked me, she thought, she would blow her chances with me. Date ended with nothing, as always, she promised me she will do everything, whatever I want to do to her, but on a second date, just to not be a whore.

Then I probably had enough of these kind of dates and I had the revelation, I kind of leveled up, I had about an hour to read the boyfriend disqualification materials for the third time maybe, and by the second date with the 36 year old gorgeous woman, I was ready to exude only lover value.

She really picked up on all of my hints, the only problem is when we went to my home she didn't come inside. That's very not typical for girls on dates with me, usually about 9 out of 10 girls come up. I have this perfect process, where we go to the supermarket to buy some bullshit, and then we nonchalantly go upstairs to kind of leave it there, with the understanding that after that we'll just go walk in the park that's nearby.

She really strongly resisted going upstairs, maybe she had some horror stories of her friends of abusive men, I don't know. So we kissed in the nearby park I sent her home, because it was very late, I texted her 'tell me when you get home', she texted back 'if I don't will you spank my ass?' So I thought okay this is on, and she just needs to sit on the idea and the second date will just be having sex from the first minute.

We flirted a bit, until she texted me two days later, saying that she had a lot of thought put into it, and she is decided that one night stands are not for her.

So the question is, was that a connection issue? Was that just some really bad experiences, that did not let her come upstairs where almost everybody else does? Or was that really no other way this could have played out because she firmly decided she doesn't want to have night one night stands at 36 years of age?
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

Chase

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@thats_a_penis_disgustang,

You should write proper field reports on these on the Field Reports Board.

Just reading the 30,000-foot overview it's not entirely clear where the mistakes are.

To guess, it sounds like you boyfriend-zoned yourself with the younger girl, then either waited too long with the older girl to set yourself up as the lover, or else you made it too obvious you were intentionally ruling yourself out, or else you are really just more of a boyfriend type of guy and your lover value wasn't sufficient (i.e., you weren't acting/behaving/coming across sexy enough) -- but from the summary you provided here, there's just no way to tell.

It's why we have Field Reports, so you can get some proper feedback on encounters like these.

Chase
 

thats_a_penis_disgustang

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@thats_a_penis_disgustang,

You should write proper field reports on these on the Field Reports Board.

Just reading the 30,000-foot overview it's not entirely clear where the mistakes are.

To guess, it sounds like you boyfriend-zoned yourself with the younger girl, then either waited too long with the older girl to set yourself up as the lover, or else you made it too obvious you were intentionally ruling yourself out, or else you are really just more of a boyfriend type of guy and your lover value wasn't sufficient (i.e., you weren't acting/behaving/coming across sexy enough) -- but from the summary you provided here, there's just no way to tell.

It's why we have Field Reports, so you can get some proper feedback on encounters like these.

Chase
Probably all of the above to be honest, it takes a while to calibrate all the 25 little processes in my brain so I can be a proper lover not only in the words that I say, but also in playful demeanor, fundamentals, Etc. My official prediction is that next stage of my seduction process will be over correcting to the labor value and having girls that I sleep with on the first date ghost me after sex. But that's a much better problem than this one.
 

KJ Francis

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Sometimes I get a little fed up lol this is a 30yo girl with tattoos who told me she spat on a cop.

Something I picked up from @Skills is to communicate that you are primarily a lover and that is her only road to boyfriend potential.

We are going for tea Saturday near her place, and I seeded later in the convo that she should brew it, but we will nail down where to meet closer to then. I find if you casually slip in the option of a booty call while setting a real date, she's more primed for the later pull. Like bouncing extreme polarity between fuck boy and sweetheart.

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Me: Morning (her name). How are the guys treating you on here

Her: Haha like pigs and I hate it. I'm looking for a relationship not a booty call

Me: Noted... I will call your booty to come have tea with me and get to know each other.

Me: Personally, I think it takes a few months to really feel someone out and see if it will develop. Big mistake to jump in too fast!

Her: Absolutely, you seem different and I like that. I love tea as well

Me: I am no different... I'll meet you at a cafe or brew us tea here just the same. What area are you in?

Her: I'm in (area) wya


***


Btw skills I also ran into a $35/hr hooker online and her two best qualities before I found out were "I like to fuck" and "I'm good at fucking".

Need to delete these apps and visit Moscow one day
 

Skills

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Sometimes I get a little fed up lol this is a 30yo girl with tattoos who told me she spat on a cop.

Something I picked up from @Skills is to communicate that you are primarily a lover and that is her only road to boyfriend potential.

We are going for tea Saturday near her place, and I seeded later in the convo that she should brew it, but we will nail down where to meet closer to then. I find if you casually slip in the option of a booty call while setting a real date, she's more primed for the later pull. Like bouncing extreme polarity between fuck boy and sweetheart.

***

Me: Morning (her name). How are the guys treating you on here

Her: Haha like pigs and I hate it. I'm looking for a relationship not a booty call

Me: Noted... I will call your booty to come have tea with me and get to know each other.

Me: Personally, I think it takes a few months to really feel someone out and see if it will develop. Big mistake to jump in too fast!

Her: Absolutely, you seem different and I like that. I love tea as well

Me: I am no different... I'll meet you at a cafe or brew us tea here just the same. What area are you in?

Her: I'm in (area) wya


***


Btw skills I also ran into a $35/hr hooker online and her two best qualities before I found out were "I like to fuck" and "I'm good at fucking".

Need to delete these apps and visit Moscow one day
Put on profile don't message me if... And in there you can mention if you are looking for sugar daddy or something like that... Look at @POB recent post... You don't need to explicit say lover... You can subcomminicate... I like to get to know someone first, and if the vibe, connect, amazing sexual chemistry...i am not opposed to the possibility of being a boyfriend with the right girl bubibefuse to settle like most couples do ..
 

Skills

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Man can't edit... Yes you did it right... You are getting it, sometimes i read interaction in text is like a mini me, you getting it
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KJ Francis

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Man can't edit... Yes you did it right... You are getting it, sometimes i read interaction in text is like a mini me, you getting it
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Getting there!

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