FR A MILFy Return

[Kvothe]

First FR of the indirect era. Let's go!

It was the first 80+ degree day. I was dressed in a white linen shirt, sleeves rolled up, on grey jeans with black chukkas. I'd been doing some approaches during the day, and had prepped during the work day by passively listening to Riker on the side. Just the sections I've already completed though. With this all going in the back of my head, I set out upon the day.

I was walking towards the entrance of a park, when I hear a girl screaming behind me. I turn around to take a look, and also see this older, but still in shape woman also turned. I just opened by asking her what the girl was screaming about. She replies it's something instagram related. I somehow connect that to this

Me: I've noticed this energy in the air... it's almost pushing us to be more adventurous, spontaneous
Her: Yeah, I've noticed that too. Are you from the city?
Me: Do I look like I'm not? <said with smirk>
Her: No, not really haha
Me: You don't seem like you're from around here
Her: No, I'm not. I'm actually from Florida
Me: That's awesome!

What I like about this is that I remained mysterious and deflected the question of where I was from. Building mild amounts of intrigue there, which I hadn't noticed myself doing in the moment.

After some quick banter, I tell her we should go grab a coffee, and she agrees.

Along the way, I eventually go to the golden question

Me: If I were to ask you what you like to do besides eat, sleep, and work... what would you say?
Her: Probably traveling! I love to travel
Me: That's awesome. I love traveling... Let me ask you something. Imagine you won the lottery... and could go anywhere you wanted to... where would you go?
Her: [Long drawn out story of traveling around the Adriatic Sea in the Mediterranean and the countries within]
Me: That's incredible... I love the prospect of engaging in new cultures, new people... and learning about myself along the way... It's amazing to open your mind

Bungled the tourist frame, which means I need to practice it more.

I do go through some other non-judgemental frames on the walk though

Me: It's amazing when you think about the people that you meet while traveling... as you realize that you've left behind the nosy and non-judgemental people behind... and can start living life how you want to.

Throughout this, she's doing most of the talking, talking about her travels, her interests. It isn't until a little later that some topics run dry and I ask her what she does, how long she's in the city, and who she's here with.

She's currently been laid off, and is in town until tomorrow, and has to go to the suburbs in a few hours (my terrible logistical streak of traveling girls leaving the next day continues). I still think I can figure out a way to pull her home though. I continue walking to the coffee shop, but I lose some of my leading when I realize that I'm not as familiar with the coffee shops in this area or their closing time. It's at this point that some of the spell breaks, and she pulls us back to the park we had started (after grabbing the coffees). I think had I been better at leading, I could have gotten us to sit closer to my apartment, which would have made pulling later easier.

Other interesting conversational threads. I try out the Opportunities and Challenges gambit

Me: You know, I really love how adventurous you are. I feel like most people these days are so sheep-like... they don't follow through on what they want to do, they care too much about what others think of them. I find that I get along much better with people who are more open to following the passion of the day... who march to the beat of their own drums.

She likes this thread, and tells another story of her friends/family trying to rope her into doing things she's not interested in during vacations.

I also do some connection-based discussion

Me: You know that feeling, when you talk to someone new... and the conversation just feels dry and stale
Her: Yeah
Me: And then you meet some people... and it feels like you've known each other for far longer than you really have
Her: Mhmm
Me: And sometimes it takes a little longer to form that connection
Her: <agrees and tells story of friend who she had that experience with>
Me: Exactly... and what's really exciting, is when you talk to someone... and you feel something else start to emerge... it's the beginning sparks of chemistry... that you know, if you let it... could become something far more passionate

Much juicier conversations than previously had on dates. Much less boring topics. Throughout this walk we're bumping into each other (incidental touch).

We eventually meander back to the park, and sit in the fountain. We sit inside, and I offer my hand to help her cross into the fountain. I sit close, and focus on doing triangle gazing intermittently. She has some allergies, and makes a joke that people must think it looks like I brought her here to break up with her. I should have made a good comment here, but honestly didn't know what made sense. So I just laughed it off, and made it a recurring joke. I make a joke about a ken doll in the fountain face down, as a murder victim of barbie after he broke up with her, and the girl slaps me playfully as she laughs. Then we see barbie face down in the water in the distance and laugh about the double suicide/murder suicide between Barbie and Ken.

She finally starts asking me questions about myself. What's my name, what do I do, etc. I try to be vague and make her guess. I do add this bit here when she asks where I'm from, and I reply that my family is from India.

Me: I'm really glad I wasn't born in India though. The culture there can be very repressive. Casual dating is highly looked down upon. I find that it's quite unfair, because if a man is seen having casual sex, everyone will call him a stud... but if a woman does it, they call her a slut...
Her: Yeah... I think that happens a lot here too
Me: True, though I think the culture here is a bit more open... You can find people who are more liberated, and understand that sex is the most natural thing in the world. I feel like the people trying to repress it are so narrow-minded and intolerant
Her: Haha
Me: It does seem like they're trying to prevent everyone having fun... maybe in a misery loves company sort of way

I've also set some seeding for a pull earlier, mentioning that I know how to tend bar, and that I have a signature cocktail that she'd love. So when we hit a part where it feels like we should get going, I suggest we go grab a drink.

Unfortunately, she says that she has to go meet her friend, and then go to the suburbs. I do think this all stems from me losing some of my leading frame earlier in the interaction when I let the leading facade drop as we were searching for a coffee place. Had that been more smooth, it may have gone a lot differently.

We walk a little bit further before parting ways. I hug for a good time, and then pull back a bit before holding her. Maybe I should have gone for a kiss close, but I didn't end up going for it.

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All together, it was a great experience finally getting my first date in a year. I needed some momentum boosting, and this certainly helped. I was also able to practice setting a lot of frames I'd been reading about. What I've learned is that I really need to start practicing some of the gambits that have been mentioned. Those should make the seduction process smoother, and more sexual. I do think I balanced the three keys decently well, though social frame, and sexual frames probably needed some shoring up. Practicing indirect, listening to Riker frequently, and practicing are making me improve. My hook rate is slowly climbing, and the hooks I'm getting are slowly becoming better.

 

[Lobo]

Good shit Kvothe wish i was there to see parts of it unfold in real time haha

You said your sexual arousal key could have used some juice and reading your interaction I see a perfect opportunity to make things more sexual...

She has some allergies, and makes a joke that people must think it looks like I brought her here to break up with her. I should have made a good comment here, but honestly didn't know what made sense.

Here she brings up herself that you two look like a couple breaking up... that's a pretty good sign of game working haha... but whats even better, is that this gives you the liberty to roleplay and set whatever frames you want as you pretend to break up with her(especially the sexual ones). This also sets some chase frames as you are breaking up with her. So social frame and sexual key can be worked at the same time.

In my mind, I see this playful roleplay going like

Me: "Ah yes HB(cheeky voice)... I just can't do this anymore... when we met the connection was almost instant and the chemistry...(turn up the heat) unbelievable. However, we just had waaaaayy too much... passionate...bed-busting... sex. And I need to be honest here and say it's kind of derailed my life... like my landlord is threatening to evict me over noise complaints . We just... can't be doing.... this... anymore( as you physically escalate on her and dial up heat even further to perhaps kiss her).

And fluff talk to keep her mind busy(this isn't right... we're too bad...for eachother... the way we both feel right now is very dangerous... blah blah)... she should be in a trance almost(from my experience when I talk like this in a sultry voice and touch as I do it, they typically get in a trance-like state)... if not, then you can redirect to some sex talk gambits after the little fun roleplay breaks and further develop the sexual arousal key