A year in, a cry for help

[Egor]

Hey guys, I am a year into practicing cold approach and adjusting fundamentals and I have zero tangible results. Women don't give me the time of day. Beggars on the street get more female investment than I. I am hit hard with the boyfriend rejection and the handful of numbers I have got from cold approaching went nowhere tangible. However, I am intrigued by the pua rathole and I want to be a successful hobbiest.

 

[ulrich]

Have you been working on your fundamentals this year too?

Hygiene, voice, posture, fashion, confidence, etc…

 

[Rakehell]

Sometimes learning this can be like completing a thousand piece puzzle. Nothing makes sense until you get enough pieces to make out a picture. Then it clicks. Then you start from ground zero on another part.

The fact is the first opener, to texting, to fundamentals are all different learning curves in themselves. If seduction was a story these three things would be separate books of knowledge.

So it’s understandable if you can get a number but can’t convert over from text, to the meetup. They’re three different skills! I think people underestimate the nuance of doing these things consistently. Although if you focus solely on fundamentals it’ll significantly boost your rates of doing these things passively.

 

[Egor]

Yes, much work, experimentation, and improvement on fundamentals. For example I don't grow facial hair for any more than a week. My clothes are much more proper. Mostly gone is my 'athleisure' style, and in is ripped jeans, boots, and formal shirt. I at least feel I am passed the 'bull in a China shop' and 'street harassment' phases.

With the world on the brink of post-pandemic war, I feel I have the liberty to write some things that would otherwise damage my fledgling reputation on this board. As a tall blonde male, quite frankly at the top of the Anglo eurocentric totem pole, I am worn down by the humanity around me. There is nowhere safe to go as a white man that is frustrated with his race and his race's women. The frustration manifests in weirdo neo-nazi groups, 'white nationalist' groups, etc. Sadly, these groups are viciously demonized and dehumanized by the closed minded.

The dominant narrative being taught in schools and workplaces is that the white man was the oppressor, the blacks were slaves. Our people were slaves too. The dark Muslims and black moors took untold numbers of white slaves, sailing as far as the British Isles and Iceland to take them. Their most sought white slave was the female sex slave.

In continental Europe, in the last war, before going to sleep, young blonde girls prayed that Hitler would win the war. Maybe you are a brown man, or an Asian man, and you lust for the tall skinny blonde woman. Keep in mind, her men see you when you lust after her, when you date her, and when she has born your child. To the man everything seems more serious.

 

[mist]

With the world on the brink of post-pandemic war, I feel I have the liberty to write some things that would otherwise damage my fledgling reputation on this board. As a tall blonde male, quite frankly at the top of the Anglo eurocentric totem pole, I am worn down by the humanity around me. There is nowhere safe to go as a white man that is frustrated with his race and his race's women. The frustration manifests in weirdo neo-nazi groups, 'white nationalist' groups, etc. Sadly, these groups are viciously demonized and dehumanized by the closed minded.

The dominant narrative being taught in schools and workplaces is that the white man was the oppressor, the blacks were slaves. Our people were slaves too. The dark Muslims and black moors took untold numbers of white slaves, sailing as far as the British Isles and Iceland to take them. Their most sought white slave was the female sex slave.

In continental Europe, in the last war, before going to sleep, young blonde girls prayed that Hitler would win the war. Maybe you are a brown man, or an Asian man, and you lust for the tall skinny blonde woman. Keep in mind, her men see you when you lust after her, when you date her, and when she has born your child. To the man everything seems more serious.

Huh?

Get back on topic man.

Hey guys, I am a year into practicing cold approach and adjusting fundamentals and I have zero tangible results.

This this this.

Not whatever that was.

Smh

 

[ulrich]

Yes, much work, experimentation, and improvement on fundamentals. For example I don't grow facial hair for any more than a week. My clothes are much more proper. Mostly gone is my 'athleisure' style, and in is ripped jeans, boots, and formal shirt. I at least feel I am passed the 'bull in a China shop' and 'street harassment' phases.

With the world on the brink of post-pandemic war, I feel I have the liberty to write some things that would otherwise damage my fledgling reputation on this board. As a tall blonde male, quite frankly at the top of the Anglo eurocentric totem pole, I am worn down by the humanity around me. There is nowhere safe to go as a white man that is frustrated with his race and his race's women. The frustration manifests in weirdo neo-nazi groups, 'white nationalist' groups, etc. Sadly, these groups are viciously demonized and dehumanized by the closed minded.

The dominant narrative being taught in schools and workplaces is that the white man was the oppressor, the blacks were slaves. Our people were slaves too. The dark Muslims and black moors took untold numbers of white slaves, sailing as far as the British Isles and Iceland to take them. Their most sought white slave was the female sex slave.

In continental Europe, in the last war, before going to sleep, young blonde girls prayed that Hitler would win the war. Maybe you are a brown man, or an Asian man, and you lust for the tall skinny blonde woman. Keep in mind, her men see you when you lust after her, when you date her, and when she has born your child. To the man everything seems more serious.

Mmmhhh seems like you social skills still need work.

What have you done regarding your charisma and socialization?
Are you able to chat with strangers and make everyone feel welcomed?
Do people regard you as cool?
Do people regard you as handsome?

 

[Rakehell]

With the world on the brink of post-pandemic war, I feel I have the liberty to write some things that would otherwise damage my fledgling reputation on this board. As a tall blonde male, quite frankly at the top of the Anglo eurocentric totem pole, I am worn down by the humanity around me. There is nowhere safe to go as a white man that is frustrated with his race and his race's women. The frustration manifests in weirdo neo-nazi groups, 'white nationalist' groups, etc. Sadly, these groups are viciously demonized and dehumanized by the closed minded.

The dominant narrative being taught in schools and workplaces is that the white man was the oppressor, the blacks were slaves. Our people were slaves too. The dark Muslims and black moors took untold numbers of white slaves, sailing as far as the British Isles and Iceland to take them. Their most sought white slave was the female sex slave.

In continental Europe, in the last war, before going to sleep, young blonde girls prayed that Hitler would win the war. Maybe you are a brown man, or an Asian man, and you lust for the tall skinny blonde woman. Keep in mind, her men see you when you lust after her, when you date her, and when she has born your child. To the man everything seems more serious.

lol wtf

 

[Don Giovanni]

Mmmhhh seems like you social skills still need work.

What have you done regarding your charisma and socialization?
Are you able to chat with strangers and make everyone feel welcomed?
Do people regard you as cool?
Do people regard you as handsome?

Second to that.

It is always good to have a friend group, a social circle where maybe you can meet new people, friends of friends, get invited to parties and stuff like that. You learn a lot of things social there, like everyone else does in life. Normal social cues that let people know you're not a wierdo.

Do you have this kind of social circle?

Also a formal shirt isn't the best fashion choice in my opinion, but again there are different styles. Also I need to style my facial hair 3 times a week, but again there are different types of hair growth. My point is there are levels to this shit.

 

[topcat]

Yes, much work, experimentation, and improvement on fundamentals. For example I don't grow facial hair for any more than a week. My clothes are much more proper. Mostly gone is my 'athleisure' style, and in is ripped jeans, boots, and formal shirt. I at least feel I am passed the 'bull in a China shop' and 'street harassment' phases.

With the world on the brink of post-pandemic war, I feel I have the liberty to write some things that would otherwise damage my fledgling reputation on this board. As a tall blonde male, quite frankly at the top of the Anglo eurocentric totem pole, I am worn down by the humanity around me. There is nowhere safe to go as a white man that is frustrated with his race and his race's women. The frustration manifests in weirdo neo-nazi groups, 'white nationalist' groups, etc. Sadly, these groups are viciously demonized and dehumanized by the closed minded.

The dominant narrative being taught in schools and workplaces is that the white man was the oppressor, the blacks were slaves. Our people were slaves too. The dark Muslims and black moors took untold numbers of white slaves, sailing as far as the British Isles and Iceland to take them. Their most sought white slave was the female sex slave.

In continental Europe, in the last war, before going to sleep, young blonde girls prayed that Hitler would win the war. Maybe you are a brown man, or an Asian man, and you lust for the tall skinny blonde woman. Keep in mind, her men see you when you lust after her, when you date her, and when she has born your child. To the man everything seems more serious.

loool this why you aint getting no pussy nigga. Fix your head.

 

[Vision]

Yes, much work, experimentation, and improvement on fundamentals. For example I don't grow facial hair for any more than a week. My clothes are much more proper. Mostly gone is my 'athleisure' style, and in is ripped jeans, boots, and formal shirt. I at least feel I am passed the 'bull in a China shop' and 'street harassment' phases.

That's good.

You should make shorter term goals... milestone goals that aren't getting laid... things in between... know what to do when things aren't going well so you don't get yourself down.

With the world on the brink of post-pandemic war, I feel I have the liberty to write some things that would otherwise damage my fledgling reputation on this board. As a tall blonde male, quite frankly at the top of the Anglo eurocentric totem pole, I am worn down by the humanity around me. There is nowhere safe to go as a white man that is frustrated with his race and his race's women. The frustration manifests in weirdo neo-nazi groups, 'white nationalist' groups, etc. Sadly, these groups are viciously demonized and dehumanized by the closed minded.

The dominant narrative being taught in schools and workplaces is that the white man was the oppressor, the blacks were slaves. Our people were slaves too. The dark Muslims and black moors took untold numbers of white slaves, sailing as far as the British Isles and Iceland to take them. Their most sought white slave was the female sex slave.

In continental Europe, in the last war, before going to sleep, young blonde girls prayed that Hitler would win the war. Maybe you are a brown man, or an Asian man, and you lust for the tall skinny blonde woman. Keep in mind, her men see you when you lust after her, when you date her, and when she has born your child. To the man everything seems more serious.

Hey man, if you want to prepare for a coming race war or some shit, that's cool. I get it.

But here's my suggestion... stop watching whatever the fuck you're watching... stop reading that shit... stop focusing on that.

What you focus on, you feel. If you focus on all the shit that's wrong in the world, what you don't have, how fucked up everything is, you're going to feel like shit.

If you see that some shit is coming... by all means, get prepared... get in shape, learn to shoot, learn to fight, practice and get better... but stop putting that stuff in your head that's designed to piss you off and instead focus on what you have and what you want.

If you focus on what you have and what you want, you'll feel better, you'll move towards what you want, and people will feel better being around you.

If you focus on everything that's wrong (and there's a lot of that out there), you'll feel like shit, you'll go nowhere, and nobody will want to be around you.

Focus on what you want... focus on what you've done... focus on making small improvements and celebrating those improvements. And get rid of anything that just pisses you off unless you're using it to push yourself towards what you want... but if you live there, you'll get stuck there. Live in possibility and gratitude instead. It's not easy but it's better in every way.

 

[ulrich]

What you focus on, you feel. If you focus on all the shit that's wrong in the world, what you don't have, how fucked up everything is, you're going to feel like shit.

If you see that some shit is coming... by all means, get prepared... get in shape, learn to shoot, learn to fight, practice and get better... but stop putting that stuff in your head that's designed to piss you off and instead focus on what you have and what you want.

If you focus on what you have and what you want, you'll feel better, you'll move towards what you want, and people will feel better being around you.

If you focus on everything that's wrong (and there's a lot of that out there), you'll feel like shit, you'll go nowhere, and nobody will want to be around you.

Focus on what you want... focus on what you've done... focus on making small improvements and celebrating those improvements. And get rid of anything that just pisses you off unless you're using it to push yourself towards what you want... but if you live there, you'll get stuck there. Live in possibility and gratitude instead. It's not easy but it's better in every way.

BUMP

This is superb advice

 

[Will_V]

@Vision is spot on.

When you are thinking so much about this stuff that you can't go on a seduction forum and talk about seduction for 5 seconds without veering off into talking about hitler, it's very likely your seductions (or at least your thoughts during a seduction) are going the same way.

You've got to get a grip on yourself man. Women are for pleasure, not for ideology. If you want to capture female interest, you have to be able to chill, to smile, to show pleasure and happiness, stuff they vibe with.

Or are you planning to seduce women so you can lecture them about the fall of western civilization?

You are showing all the symptoms of a man who cannot compartment and organize his mind. Someone who is unable to calibrate to the situation at hand, who is trapped in his own world, going around like a pressure cooker looking for a way to vent, rather than vibing and finding common ground with people around him.

You know what's the easiest way to get a woman's attention? Give her a smile, the genuine smile of a man who has a satisfying grip on his life and his path, and wakes up every day feeling like a winner, or at least happy to be at the races. Can you do that while you are thinking about how tired of the world's bullshit you are? I didn't think so.

Accept that you have lost control of your mind, it is full of things that no longer help you. You are enslaved by a whirlwind of negative thoughts, anxieties, and rage about some hypothesis of the future. Free your mind, find your calm, and maneuver through the world with skill. And enjoy women for the pretty, silly things they are.

 

[Egor]

It is always good to have a friend group, a social circle where maybe you can meet new people, friends of friends, get invited to parties and stuff like that. You learn a lot of things social there, like everyone else does in life. Normal social cues that let people know you're not a wierdo.

Do you have this kind of social circle?

I can entertain this comment, thanks. In my late teens I had a robust social circle and went to parties and sometimes hosted parties almost every weekend. By my early twenties, some things happened to me that were not entirely my fault. I have been low. I have been at rock bottom. It is hard to have friends when you are savagely depressed and indulging in suicidal ideation. Because of my mental turmoil and psychosomatic distress, my social circle went through a 'friendship bottleneck'. There was 1 friend that I always kept in touch with through my dark days. I was fairly psychological fit, and emergent from these dark days, about 6 years after the fall of '08. My 1 friend that I was never too low to call, he will be a bud for life.

However I am far gone from that social circle now, in a big liberal city. I will be more careful what I write next time.

 

[Don Giovanni]

I can entertain this comment, thanks. In my late teens I had a robust social circle and went to parties and sometimes hosted parties almost every weekend. By my early twenties, some things happened to me that were not entirely my fault. I have been low. I have been at rock bottom. It is hard to have friends when you are savagely depressed and indulging in suicidal ideation. Because of my mental turmoil and psychosomatic distress, my social circle went through a 'friendship bottleneck'. There was 1 friend that I always kept in touch with through my dark days. I was fairly psychological fit, and emergent from these dark days, about 6 years after the fall of '08. My 1 friend that I was never too low to call, he will be a bud for life.

However I am far gone from that social circle now, in a big liberal city. I will be more careful what I write next time.

First of all, if you're depressed and have suicidal thoughts this should be your priority. Fuck the bitches, do it for your own well being. Get a therapist, professional help. I don't want to comment on this further, since I'm not qualified.

Regarding cold approach, you can still practice that while working on your mental health. But if you feel it's too emotionally taxing, which it can be sometimes, I would suggest you take a break. Get your mind in order and then start again or do it on the side as a hobby.

Start writing a journal, document your approaches, just the regular advice given here... Forum members can then start helping you with information you have given them and you will start seeing patterns yourself. If you go in to it with negative energy and keep repeating the same things nothing will change and you will burn yourself out. You want to approach it rationally.

 

[Egor]

First of all, if you're depressed and have suicidal thoughts this should be your priority. Fuck the bitches, do it for your own well being. Get a therapist, professional help. I don't want to comment on this further, since I'm not qualified.

Regarding cold approach, you can still practice that while working on your mental health. But if you feel it's too emotionally taxing, which it can be sometimes, I would suggest you take a break. Get your mind in order and then start again or do it on the side as a hobby.

Start writing a journal, document your approaches, just the regular advice given here... Forum members can then start helping you with information you have given them and you will start seeing patterns yourself. If you go in to it with negative energy and keep repeating the same things nothing will change and you will burn yourself out. You want to approach it rationally.

You misunderstood my post, but that is ok, there is really no need for me to drag up and elaborate on my past at this point. I think I made this thread because I am burnt out. However I think my slow progress is because I am trying to be authentic to myself. I want to permanently change myself to be flirtatious and social naturally, not just exercising 'tech' or routines that are incongruent with my current soul.

My current action plan is to delve into the lay report and field report literature, because I think reading those kinds of 'sexual scripts' will help me understand and internalize some concepts better. Perhaps I will write some myself if I feel comfortable.

 

[Don Giovanni]

However I think my slow progress is because I am trying to be authentic to myself. I want to permanently change myself to be flirtatious and social naturally, not just exercising 'tech' or routines that are incongruent with my current soul.

My current action plan is to delve into the lay report and field report literature, because I think reading those kinds of 'sexual scripts' will help me understand and internalize some concepts better. Perhaps I will write some myself if I feel comfortable.

There is no other way for us to know what you're doing except you writing field reports/ a journal...