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andersen09

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Hey guys,

I'm Andersen and I will be starting a journal here to keep myself in progression.
Before I start I'd like to introduce myself and where I'm coming from.

I'm Asian, 26 Years Old.

Dating Experience (Relationships)

To be honest I come from a little different background than most. In middle school when I was young, I've had 5 'girlfriends' from the period of 7th grade to 8th grade. In high school I had 2 girlfriends, and one of whom which I lost my virginity to when I was 17 who was a cheerleader in another high school.

But I had two major problems.

They all thought I was 'cute and good looking' which made them pursue me. And because I was so shy, I always 'rejected' them in their eyes, which made them pursue even harder.

1. So I never knew how to be the one SEDUCING, rather I was the one SEDUCED all the time. That meant I only could date the girls came to me and didn't have a choice. (I'd say they were from 6.5 to 8 at best) (8 being the cheerleader)

2. When they dated me, it NEVER lasted longer than 3 months. I was extremely shy, dysfunctional family, couldn't carry a conversation, had no substance, and when they got to know me more, the less attractive they found me.

So my rejection wasn't in the BEGINNING, but rather, I was getting rejected for WHO I REALLY WAS. And it had extreme effect on my self-esteem and confidence.

With that being said, I'd like to pursue mastery in the following. (In Order)

Stages
1. Daygame/Dates (one on one)
2. Online Game (one one one)
3. Night Game (Going out by myself without anyone)

After mastery of 1-3, social circle
1. My weakest point is dealing with other guys who are very dominant and aggressive due to me being intimidated sometimes
(So while I'm working on 1-3, I'll also be working out and working on self-defense to work on handling being intimidated)


Goals:
1. Daygame - May 8th ~ May 14th - Approach 3 Girls I FIND ATTRACTIVE A Day with a direct Opener OUTSIDE OF MY CAMPUS
(My goal is to just state excuse me, you're cute) And that's IT. How she responds isn't my objective. My objective is to get over the fear of approaching pretty women that I believe is ABOVE MY LEAGUE)


PS: If you're in LA and want to film approaches together, hit me up!

What my journal will be about

1. My conversation, thought process, how girl reacts, what I think she's thinking and social scenario analysis. (It will be TITLED FIELD REPORT, FR)
2. I will make a list of girls I'm in contact with and update how it's going via text/convo/situation. (Continuation Series Girl Name, CS Mary)

If any guys have inputs on how I should pursue or anything like that feel free!

P.S I'm looking for a wingman in Los Angeles to help me film and vice versa to improve much faster!
I recently got into a car accident and don't have a car, but if you can meet near me, I have all the camera equipment for recording/filming. And we can help each other out.
 

andersen09

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Re: Andersen's Journey

# Day 0 - UBER GIRL CONTINUATION SERIES - Rating - 6.5 (pic below)

(really Cute girl/ not sexy or hot) (Has a bf: She never mentioned)

http://imgur.com/a/OZQQo

(We happened to be pooling together)

Before the ride: She saw me with another girl before the ride.

She gets into the Uber first. And when she sees me walking to her car, she immediately scoots over to the other side thinking she's going to sit next to her. (Positive Interest)

Instead I sit in the front. And I can feel her receptive vibe and wants to start talking to me.

Conversation: I start talking to the driver first to make it feel natural.

Me: Hey man, thanks for picking me up!
Driver: Thanks man, how are ya?
Me: I'm just happy I'm in college ya know, weekends start every Thursday. I get to tease my baby brother tomorrow for being in school while I sleep in.
Gloria: (Laughing Quietly) *I take notice. She's waiting for me to engage her.

After a few funny exchange
Driver: Hahaha what are you guys majoring in? (While driving)
Me: You know I'm kind of stuck. My heart says to pursue psychology, but my logical money side says pursue biology and medicine.
Driver: That is a hard choice.
Me: But Right now, I'm pursuing psychology, going with my gut. (Pause for timing)
Her: Intensively Listening

I turn to her and say
Me: What about you?
Her: I'm studying to become a flight attendant!
Me: I had no idea they had classes for that, good for you~
Her: Yeah it's awesome ( I kind of forgot what else was said)

Small talk about flight attendant

Me: Yeah I can't imagine being a flight attendant. I just feel like, when people think of a flight attendant, they imagine either a sexy or cute girl in a uniform than some swagged out Asian guy haha

Her: There's some guys in my class!

Me: They're gay
Her: They are not!!
Me: haha im just kidding, but seriously, I wonder what made them pursue that path (I was a little bit negative)
Her: Well, they wouldn't be in that class if they didn't like it right?
Me: That depends, what made you want to become a flight attendant?
Her: Travels, See the world
Me: So for you, it's all about freedom and experiencing different cultures right?
Her: yeah~
Me: But it's not really about becoming a flight attendant, but it's more like a vehicle to pursue your passion
Her: That's true~
Me: So yeah, those guys probably just wanna meet cute girls, maybe they thought you were cute and stayed in class who knows
Her: Haha! Whatever!!
Me: But yeah, that's cool that you're on your way to pursue your passions as a traveler. I'm quite of a traveler myself, so you're going to be my future flight attendant and sneak me :p
Her: Depends on what airlines!
Me: I hope it's not United, cause I don't want to get dragged out (Referring to the recent UA event)
Her: LOL!
(By this time we were coming to my house)

Me: You got (MESSENGER?)
Her: Yeah
Me: Cool put it in (hand her my phone)
Her: I'm not a flight attendant yet though!
Me: I honestly don't care, put it in.
Her: ok!

I msg her - What a coincidence meeting u in uber future flight attendant, nice to meet you :) -andersen
Her: (Responds right away) - Thank you :p Nice meeting you too!

This was Saturday or was it Friday?

TO BE CONTINUED.
 

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Field Report (Small Scenario)
'Trying out neg'

There's a girl who sits in front of me in my class who always turn around to look at me and smile.
For some reason I felt like being a dick a little bit.

Me: "Come here, let me see your glasses"
Her: (Glasses say Gucci)
Me: "Are they real?"
Her: Taken Back "Uh yeah? My dad works for Gucci"
Me: Smile. Cool.
She was annoyed/flustered.

(Attainability dropped a little bit as she's already attracted to me and that took a hit obviously)

But I always wanted to see what happens if I 'neg' a girl.

In this case it was bad because she was already attracted to me and sees me as higher 'status' than her.
And I poured more barrier which wasn't that great.

That's it for now!
 

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viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15995

Continuation of this thread

So I finally blew up at the blonde one day, as she crossed the line in playing around too much
She took my watch and hid it somewhere and said 'I threw it away'
Second part was that she kept letting this other fuckboy tag around her and would hang around him even though everyone labeled him creepy.
With that being said, I said fuck it, why is a guy like me who can have any other girl that's above her level even fucking with a girl like this that's socially inept to understand that her behaviors are fucking it up for both of us.
With that being said, I just let her go to go 'dig her graveyard'.


ME: 'Give me my fucking watch, you're really starting to piss me off'
Her: 'Oh no, what am I going to do?'

And the guy who's an orbitor actually got scared and gave me my watch back.
From here we stopped talking for about 2 months.

During those two months she had to sit right next to me and witness having other women sincerely attracted to me and secretly getting jealous.
And I also knew something was bout to happen between the guy and the girl.

So today, I just found out the creepy guy tried to introduce the blonde girl to his parents LOLL.
It's a long story and I only got partial story, but he tried to 'have her' be his girlfriend and tried to formally introduce her to his family.
In which she got her friend to act like her boyfriend and texted him never to fucking text her again.

And now there's an awkward silence between the two of them and I kind of felt bad for both of the,.
But hopefully this taught her a lesson to never let some weird/creepy guy ruin the chances for her cause she wants to play hard to get in the future.
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

andersen09

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I'm going to share some of the insights on other guys attempting to make sly remarks/tool you.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16148

If you refer back to the post I made awhile back, you'll notice I was struggling with guys making me sly remarks at me. It was a mix of confusion and also fear of how others were perceiving me. And most of the advice was the mainstream advice 'just ignore it' or stop being 'insecure'. But I disagreed as 'ignoring' is used when a guy is CONFIDENT in his skill to deflect tooling attempts. And 'insecurity' is a measure of where I need to improve as a person, not ignore it. As insecurity says you have an AREA where you can IMPROVE.

It's almost like Kobe just ignoring some high school kid saying he can beat him one on one. He went through thousands of one on ones before just ignoring things and laughing it off. Zero insecurity. Why? Because he has experiential reference points

I believe in putting in the hard work and going through the experiences to find out how to handle it and coming down to the least effort strategies like 'ignoring'. So that's exactly what I did this semester. I did the only thing I know how to do in a situation where I don't understand it. I went in head in to the conflicts to see what was on the other side.

So I want to start off with this post and how it ended up.

#1 Insecure Guy Tooling Me

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15995&p=80007#p80007

Problem I was facing: The guy kept making sly remarks every time I talked to Blondie, as she was attracted to me, but he was attracted to her.

"Look at Andersen trying to holler, she don't even like you bro"
"You're Asian, you can't get girls man"

Let's call him Jack.

On top of THAT, the girl decided she's going to 'flirt back' in front of me to make me 'jealous.

I thought about my options and came up with strategies depending on my circumstance.

1. I was going to see this guy for another 5 months.
2. I COULD just confront him and beat his ass. BUT I know this isn't my goal which is to become more graceful in social interactions and conflicts.

Knowing this I decided to go another route, and see how it ends up.

I'm going to just stay in my lane and trust my fundamentals. In fact, I was going to encourage both of them. They were digging their own grave and I'm just going to help em dig it faster.

Solution: I started charming EVERYONE around me. The girl to the left of me, behind me, everyone around me, and of course the professor. Doing this naturally, one of the hottest girls moved her seats the first 3 classes, and 'accidentally' started sitting in front of me. And of course things just took off between us to the point where (I actually ended up with her BUT I still needed to get to the bottom of this situational scenario with blondie and JACK)

I would always be flirting with the hotter girl in front of me and comment on the blondie and Jack. Don't you think they make a cute couple? I would rate them 9 out of 10 as a pair, what do you think?

Girl in front; Umm.. hehe I don't know, but I know who would make a good pair...

Blondie's face was priceless.

The NEXT DAY, for some reason Jack is now sitting across the table. And the blondie is sitting by herself. And I found out (I was fucking one of the blondie's friends down low and got information from her). She told me that because the blondie was using JACK to get me 'jealous', JACK started thinking she was into him and started getting cocky. So he wanted to make it official and invited her to a dinner with his parents. LOL which in return the blondie got REALLY creeped out and that was the reason.

Now my objective was, to find out the guy's motivation for trying to make sly remarks at me

And I found out. It was pure insecurity in their part.
Now, whenever I need something, he's the first one to be there for me.

If I forget a pencil -> Jack: I GOT YOU BRO NO WORRIES
If I forget notes -> Jack: Just take pictures of mine bro

And as for blondie? Let's just say I found a better girl and she's still regretting her decision.

#2 Racial Remarks

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16148

One of the guys were actually really big on this one.

"Ching Chong" "Jackie Chan"

He would say these things in front of other people. And I wanted to find out what his motivations were for such behavior.
So instead of confronting this guy, I had a heart to heart talk with him.

"Listen man, I'm not sure what your deal is, but when you stereotype people like you do, it creates a distance between you and I because you're trying to judge my character without getting to know me"

And we shook hands, and went on. Or I thought

Next day, he started calling 'racial remarks' again.

"Gonichiwa Kim-Sama"
"KIM-SAMA!"

It kind of baffled me as I was thinking, alright this kid's gonna get an ass beating.
And I went up to this guy when he was by himself, and I told him
"Alright man, I tried to do this peacefully, but obviously talking doesn't get through your head. Call me 'sama' again fuckboy. I ma beat the shit out of you until you don't even know what sama means anymore"

And his response surprised me.

"Bro.. I thought Sama meant friends in Asian countries...? I thought I was calling you my friend"

This REALLY baffled me, as I felt the genuine vulnerability from this meathead looking guy, and he wanted to be my friend, he just never knew how to connect with another guy from another country. It was just PURE ignorance.

And here I was thinking this kid was trying to 'tool me', but he was just socially inept.
I started feeling empathy for this guy. And he always asks me now if I want to go drink with him with his buddies.

And FINALLY, there was this story from a 'red pill forums'.

I was hanging out with four of my buddies and two of their wives last weekend. Since I've been absorbing the pill and lifting, my attitude and physique have changed - women are starting to notice me more, and that includes both wives that were there.

All of these guys are pretty blue pill - some worse than others - and at one point they teamed up and started teasing me by making jokes about me being feminine, in order to try to get me to break my frame. I just looked at the one wife, who makes it obvious she has ogle eyes for me, and said with amused mastery, "Look at these guys trying to strip my masculinity in front of you because they're insecure." Just blatantly out loud explained to the group in straight talk exactly what was happening in a very IDGAF way.

She looked at me and muttered, "Yeah, don't let them!" (Power talk translation: "I think that you're the AMOG, and these guys are betas who feel threatened by your masculinity because they know you're giving me tingles. I'm glad you called them out on their shit.") Right next to her husband, who was in on the teasing.

Point being I didn't try or even consciously want to be the AMOG, it was already decided by everyone else that I was the AMOG. It was out of my control, just by the way I look and act. They all subconsciously realized it, and when an opportunity struck, the men all jumped on me with a pack-like mentality. It's almost like that's how males are genetically programmed to shit test each other.
Women are higher than betas in the social hierarchy, and simply being alpha is enough to get women on your side. Especially if you're the AMOG. If the women are on your side, destroying beta male shit tests is a piece of cake - even easier than destroying female shit tests IMO. The key is holding frame. Always.
THIS exactly was the position I kept facing, but I just didn't know how to handle it.

I thought it was the fact that people were trying to 'raise their value' at my expense (which is partially true), but rather I found out the genuine motivations were guys were getting insecure around me or wanted to be friends, but just didn't know how to go about it. It just clicked. Women know when guys are threatened by another guy and reacting, in which they actually perceive you as even MORE attractive.

It's just a very insightful lesson I learned over the semester.
 

andersen09

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Approach #1

I did my first cold approach two days ago with intention.
I was walking with my buddy at a mall when I see a very cute and feisty Asian girl walking our way.
I was on the right side and my buddy to the left, while she was walking to the left side of my friend.

Instinctively because she was my type, I stopped and went to the left side of my friend and told her.

Me: Hey I have to ask you something

By this time she saw me, walked passed me, and stopped. Looked very irritated.

Her: What?
Me: Come here, where you from? (I was aggressive)
Her: That's my boyfriend walking behind you.
Me: So what? I'm just asking you for directions.

(Right here I panicked and started stuttering)

I looked to check real quick to see who her boyfriend was and when she turned around she was already gone.

Lesson:

A. If I see a girl walking, make sure I see her from far away so that I can adjust my space to get in front of her directly instead of coming at her from a weird angle.
B. If she's defensive and agitated, don't ask her for more compliance with phrases such as "Come here" or "where you from", instead focus on giving value.
C. Slow down the pace, and don't buy into her "agitated frame". I came from a place of "making fun of her agitated frame" rather just let her be, and invite her to a good vibe of yours and show a strong manly frame.

1 out of 1000 approaches done.
0 set of 5 1000 approaches done.

Main goal for the week of June 19 - 25

1. Get rid of approach anxiety.
2. Steadily raise approach accounts from Monday to Sunday starting at 3 cold approaches on Monday.
 

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I'm going to call these approaches, Pre-Approach before my actual approaches for calibration and skills.
I'm going to be doing 30 Pre-Approaches before I start doing real approaches.

I have anxiety and therefore, my brain doesn't really have time to worry about skills and adjusting yet.
Therefore, I'm going to go through a phase where I just make my body go through what it needs to go through to become used to certain situations.

I'm only counting approaches where I FEEL anxiety and I still do it as pre-approaches.

Requirements for Pre-Approach
1. I have to feel the anxiety
2. It's just a single girl by herself


6/23/2017

I met up with a friend by a local mall, and I kept passing on the type of chicks that are 'cutesy'. I kept thinking it's not my type of women because in college, I run into those types of girls so much. It doesn't really scare me per say.

I was thinking maybe I should approach them anyway to practice my cold approaching skills, but I decided against it and just wait til a really hot one comes by.

So after walking around a small mall, it was a lot of family, mom to daughter, and just okay looking chicks, so we decided to switch places.
But as we get in the car, we see her.

She was beautiful, probably 7-8 in looks. My friend says "Where were you when we were in there?

Pre-Approach #1(Day #1)
*7-8 out of 10 in looks. Personality? Pleasant
She gets in the car and is about to drive off. I tell my friend to literally park next to her.
He pulls up and I roll my car window down and I just wave at her.
She looks at me and I just smile and signal for her to put the windows down.

Her: Hi
Me: Hi, this is random as hell.
Her: Yes?
Me: Are you single?
Her: (Smiles) I'm married.
Me: Aww, okay. Hope you have a wonderful day

6/24/17

I keep running to scenarios where I'll be walking up and then her mom, her boyfriend, or whoever will show up right as I'm about to say something.
(So will keep that in mind for future references)

So we walk around a little bit and we're slacking a bit.
We pass by few hotties as it's crowded and my anxiety for the higher caliber of girls is a bit intense today.

We go into barnes and nobles and I see a girl that's casually checking books out and comes near me.
My friend says "you think she's under 18? yeah she probably is"

Anyway, I'm having major anxiety but in my head, I just go, okay I have to do this since I feel anxiety.
So after circling the bookstore 2-3 times, I finally do it.

Pre-Approach #2
Me: "Excuse me"
Her: Yes?
Me: Before I ask, are you over 18?
Her: No
Me: Okay nevermind.

(It was super awkward but inside I felt that relief of, wow I did it)

Now that the first one was over with, I felt more ready to do it.
We walk by an apple store, and out of all the places, there's a very attractive girl right in front of the store working for Apple.
She's talking to another co-worker and just helping out customers.

Pre-Approach #3
When I walk in about to talk to her, a customer asks her a question
So I walk by to a near computer and act like I'm just checking it out.
After she's done helping, her co-worker comes by again to talk again.
I wait for the right moment until she's free to talk again, and I do the approach

Me: Hey, they put you up in the front of the store for a reason didn't they?
Her: (Giggles) What do you mean? We all take rotations.
Me: I'm' just saying you're the only girl, and you happened to be in the front.
Her: No, I'll be switching out with someone else soon.
Me: Well, you're very cute. You got a boyfriend?
Her: (Taken Back) Yes

**At this point it went from a playful friendly vibe to her being taken and surprised.
Me: Alright cool, well I hope I made your day. Give me a hug
(I put my arm out for her to give me a hug and she hesitates)
Me: Quit making this awkward, hug me.
(She hugs me awkwardly)
Me: Bye~

This was a matter of calibration. In the conversation she was slowly enjoying the conversation and the moment until I hit her with my intent out of nowhere.
Lesson: Ca liberate and slowly lead her to the intention so it doesn't throw her off.

Lessons Overall:
Usually, I'm not the type to go direct. I'm usually very slow to warm up and I like finding about what a girl's like.
I've had girlfriends where they were really pretty but had full of insecurities/daddy issues, and also had girlfriends where they just didn't have personalities.
So BEING DIRECT helped me get used to just putting myself out there and see what happens.

It helps me get comfortable with being attracted to a pretty girl but not really make it a big deal out of it.
Usually when I see a girl, I try to hide my feelings of being attracted and get very uncomfortable with it.
But by just expressing it, my body's getting used to feeling anxiety AND being attracted to really beautiful girls.
 
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