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Do any of you guys still pull without any dance game in venues where you can barely walk through the crowd? Any tips? I feel like it's an excuse to not open just because it's so loud (there's always the venue edges, a bit quieter). But in venues with no good isolation spots, should I brush up on 60 Years of Challenge physical game? Not sure how to really run the pickup even if you get a receptive girl with good eye contact but can't converse to build comfort. I don't want to write off venues with hot girls just 'cause I don't know how to do it.
One open tonight, led to a solid interaction. Failed pull attempt, but she asked to exchange numbers right after.
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Napped til 10pm and hit snooze a bit, so didn't get inside until about 11pm.
Venue 1 - Downstairs live band with a bunch of dudes dressed like shit. Upstairs club packed like sardines. Maybe like three hot 2-sets in the place. They literally played "save a horse, ride a cowboy", then a minute later it's a bunch of white kids singing "they not like us... they not like us..." pretty wack.
Venue 2 - Converted warehouse venue, pretty hip stylish crowd. Similar to above, once you're ten feet in the venue you can barely move. It's cool for slow walking to spot eye contact approach invitations (also got a couple hair flips), but am I supposed to shout HEY HOW'S YOUR NIGHT GOING at the top of my lungs? I can see talking in a girl's ear being fun, but not sure how to reach the hook point and get into screening/qualifying. Then you have to navigate the sardine tin to try to move her to the wall to talk? The girls here seemed cool. Does this require super physical screening game?
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Venue 3 - About midnight, went to an alternative venue. Young crowd, everyone in all black, lots of fishnets and such. Less packed, quieter music in one of the rooms... a couple couches actually available despite a decent crowd. Much more promising. There was a lone wolf against the wall, so I asked her if there was another big room in the venue (later found out I was right but they only use it for big events). She actually brought me to go find her friend to ask her. She couldn't find the friend so I asked her to accompany me around and scope the venue.
We reach the outdoor smoking section and I start getting to know her. She hasn't gone out like this in a year and her friends dragged her out. Full time Starbucks barista, maybe 22 or so. Busty, fishnets, skirt, black boots. A dude in a fishnet shirt, white contacts, goth makeup, and a white fur coat (@Vibe was that you? lol) chats with us a bit. I got cold and led her back in.
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Locked in against a wall and learned about her artistic side, drawing hobby. She asks a bit about me too. No issue with proximity, bodies against each other. She scratches her wrists from time to time (pretty reliable horny sign). Her roommate comes up happy she found her, then immediately was like oh no we need to leave you alone... like she was really happy she was talking to me, since she dragged her to come out. It was pretty funny. She came back a minute later and directly asked my girl if she was ok. I introduced myself to her friend (long hand hold she didn't let go), and her friend's girlfriend. So these are both big tit gay goth girls. Like one had a collar with a metal ring on, and her girlfriend's tits were basically falling out her top. They were both instantly cool with me and left us to be alone.
So I moved her to a couch. This girl was pretty trusting from the get go and very "with me". Neither of us were drinking so I didn't have a good plausible deniability pull reason like nightcap or whatever. So I told her it was getting late and I like to decompress and take in the view at home before going to sleep. I asked her to come with me and we can keep chatting there. She said "not tonight" and explained putting herself out there was a big step and trusting someone like that was a bit too far out of her comfort zone. She might have simply needed another 15 minutes of time together. Or maybe my sticking point here is verbal arousal through second gen frame setting, lover prizing, etc.?
So in response to the pull attempt, she offered to exchange numbers, and made sure the text went through. She said yes to meeting for coffee or something. I know night game numbers don't mean much, but the overall compliance and interest seemed pretty good.
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Overall sort of successful... one approach with three isolation moves and a seemingly solid time bridge. But nowhere near the 12 sets a night I need to get enough practice in. I have more venues to scout, so will have to see if there's a tradeoff between higher end venues conducive to conversational pickup and the women being older.
Around 1am, I went back to Venue 1 to the same scene, and then back to Venue 2 to it being even more loud/packed.
One open tonight, led to a solid interaction. Failed pull attempt, but she asked to exchange numbers right after.
***
Napped til 10pm and hit snooze a bit, so didn't get inside until about 11pm.
Venue 1 - Downstairs live band with a bunch of dudes dressed like shit. Upstairs club packed like sardines. Maybe like three hot 2-sets in the place. They literally played "save a horse, ride a cowboy", then a minute later it's a bunch of white kids singing "they not like us... they not like us..." pretty wack.
Venue 2 - Converted warehouse venue, pretty hip stylish crowd. Similar to above, once you're ten feet in the venue you can barely move. It's cool for slow walking to spot eye contact approach invitations (also got a couple hair flips), but am I supposed to shout HEY HOW'S YOUR NIGHT GOING at the top of my lungs? I can see talking in a girl's ear being fun, but not sure how to reach the hook point and get into screening/qualifying. Then you have to navigate the sardine tin to try to move her to the wall to talk? The girls here seemed cool. Does this require super physical screening game?
***
Venue 3 - About midnight, went to an alternative venue. Young crowd, everyone in all black, lots of fishnets and such. Less packed, quieter music in one of the rooms... a couple couches actually available despite a decent crowd. Much more promising. There was a lone wolf against the wall, so I asked her if there was another big room in the venue (later found out I was right but they only use it for big events). She actually brought me to go find her friend to ask her. She couldn't find the friend so I asked her to accompany me around and scope the venue.
We reach the outdoor smoking section and I start getting to know her. She hasn't gone out like this in a year and her friends dragged her out. Full time Starbucks barista, maybe 22 or so. Busty, fishnets, skirt, black boots. A dude in a fishnet shirt, white contacts, goth makeup, and a white fur coat (@Vibe was that you? lol) chats with us a bit. I got cold and led her back in.
***
Locked in against a wall and learned about her artistic side, drawing hobby. She asks a bit about me too. No issue with proximity, bodies against each other. She scratches her wrists from time to time (pretty reliable horny sign). Her roommate comes up happy she found her, then immediately was like oh no we need to leave you alone... like she was really happy she was talking to me, since she dragged her to come out. It was pretty funny. She came back a minute later and directly asked my girl if she was ok. I introduced myself to her friend (long hand hold she didn't let go), and her friend's girlfriend. So these are both big tit gay goth girls. Like one had a collar with a metal ring on, and her girlfriend's tits were basically falling out her top. They were both instantly cool with me and left us to be alone.
So I moved her to a couch. This girl was pretty trusting from the get go and very "with me". Neither of us were drinking so I didn't have a good plausible deniability pull reason like nightcap or whatever. So I told her it was getting late and I like to decompress and take in the view at home before going to sleep. I asked her to come with me and we can keep chatting there. She said "not tonight" and explained putting herself out there was a big step and trusting someone like that was a bit too far out of her comfort zone. She might have simply needed another 15 minutes of time together. Or maybe my sticking point here is verbal arousal through second gen frame setting, lover prizing, etc.?
So in response to the pull attempt, she offered to exchange numbers, and made sure the text went through. She said yes to meeting for coffee or something. I know night game numbers don't mean much, but the overall compliance and interest seemed pretty good.
***
Overall sort of successful... one approach with three isolation moves and a seemingly solid time bridge. But nowhere near the 12 sets a night I need to get enough practice in. I have more venues to scout, so will have to see if there's a tradeoff between higher end venues conducive to conversational pickup and the women being older.
Around 1am, I went back to Venue 1 to the same scene, and then back to Venue 2 to it being even more loud/packed.
