Anyone who pursue medical school? Was it worth it?

[DaVinciMatrixStyle]

I'm at my last year of college. I'm deciding whether to go to medical school or not.

Here's some information about what I'm thinking about.

Pros
A. It'll be paid for by my military benefits, so almost 0 debt. (Prior military in the US can get education paid for)
B. I'll never have to worry about future finances once I complete it.

Cons
A. Time Consuming.

I just turned 30 and graduating now. (about 6 years in the military and took some years to travel before deciding to go to college)
So if I pursue medical school, I'll be 37-38 give or take by the time I complete with med school + residency

I wonder if I'll be wasting my peak years because I can just rack up my experience pool traveling, picking up girls, and enjoying life.

B. I'll lose all types of social skills, relationship experience, etc for the sake of financial security for my 40s+ (About 20 years?)

There's a lot of other things but these are some of the main points.

Sacrifice my 30s for financial security for 40s+?
Or say no to med school and experience my peak years.

Any inputs for people who went through anything like this?

 

[PalmaSailor]

You’re not sacrificing your 30’s you can still pick up loads of women whilst at med school.

plus your earnings when completed could be absolutely HUGE if you devote a specialist / expert if field. Etc.

6 years is no time at all, and what else are you going to do for work - serious question - nothing is going to pay like that where you can just do the quals and get a job,

So your question is a false equivalence, you’re not going to “sacrifice your 30’s”. What are you going to do for money if you don’t do it? And what sort of money will that be?

are you sure you’re not buffering because you’re not sure you can hack it because it’s a lot of work and you’d rather bum around?

 

[DaVinciMatrixStyle]

So your question is a false equivalence, you’re not going to “sacrifice your 30’s”. What are you going to do for money if you don’t do it? And what sort of money will that be?

Go back in the military as an officer.

are you sure you’re not buffering because you’re not sure you can hack it because it’s a lot of work and you’d rather bum around?

You're making too many assumptions instead of answering the question. If I thought I couldn't hack it, I wouldn't be considering medical school in the first place now would I?

The question was simply is it worth to exchange my peak years for preparing for 40s (of course it's sacrificing) instead of enjoying my 30s traveling and having fun with women.

Stick to answering the question or don't bother replying.

 

[PalmaSailor]

Go back in the military as an officer.



You're making too many assumptions instead of answering the question. If I thought I couldn't hack it, I wouldn't be considering medical school in the first place now would I?

The question was simply is it worth to exchange my peak years for preparing for 40s (of course it's sacrificing) instead of enjoying my 30s traveling and having fun with women.

Stick to answering the question or don't bother replying.

You get my resource free.
I’m not your bitch.
You’ll get the answer I see fit.

 

[Beck Bass]

I'ma be honest with you, if you wanna do it, do it, everything is time consuming, I regret putting out something I wanted to do to purse things I thought would bring me back return faster, only for those things to end up flopping and me going back to those old things, because in the end they really were what I wanted to do (though you could argue not doing them is what cause me to realize they were my priorities, lol, go figure).

Stick to answering the question or don't bother replying.

Wow that's rude man! People take their time trying to type stuff that makes sense lol
That said, if you have the money to get them hoes now, why bother with med school?
Do you really wanna be a medic? How bad do you want that?
To be real, I haven't been through med school, but I have been with girls that have, and this shit is exausting, even here in Brazil where people tend not to take anything too seriously lmao

Can you still pickup while there? Hell yes
Will you be sleeping with as many girls as if you weren't there? Hell nah
The biggest thing probably is that med student and medics have those crazy schedules, so it's very hard to accomodate people that aren't used to that. It's a very different lifestyle, so the chances of more commited relationship with a girl that isn't a medic herself working out are low, I think (but again, pure speculation, with a bit of my own personal experience watching those people). For ONS and casual in general shouldn't be too big of a deal (though remember you will be almost in your 40s when done with it)

 

[Derek da man]

Both @PalmaSailor and @Beck Bass make good points.

Sounds like you have choices - Military Officer or Med school - some people would consider you lucky to be in such a position. I don't think you'd have got through 6 years military service if you were "work shy".

My advice would be to do what you have a passion for.

Being a Dr or medic have lots similarities in terms of meeting people, helping people, being socially aware and so on. These are all people skills and will help you pick up women but this shouldn't be your sole aim in life as any career route is likely to have plenty of opportunities, you just need to exploit every opportunity to the max.

 

[Will_V]

I'm at my last year of college. I'm deciding whether to go to medical school or not.

Here's some information about what I'm thinking about.

Pros
A. It'll be paid for by my military benefits, so almost 0 debt. (Prior military in the US can get education paid for)
B. I'll never have to worry about future finances once I complete it.

Cons
A. Time Consuming.

I just turned 30 and graduating now. (about 6 years in the military and took some years to travel before deciding to go to college)
So if I pursue medical school, I'll be 37-38 give or take by the time I complete with med school + residency

I wonder if I'll be wasting my peak years because I can just rack up my experience pool traveling, picking up girls, and enjoying life.

B. I'll lose all types of social skills, relationship experience, etc for the sake of financial security for my 40s+ (About 20 years?)

There's a lot of other things but these are some of the main points.

Sacrifice my 30s for financial security for 40s+?
Or say no to med school and experience my peak years.

Any inputs for people who went through anything like this?

How much do you really want to be a doctor? That's a lot of commitment, is financial security all you want from it? It might be far easier and more fun to do it a different way. And besides, even a high paying job can be difficult to become rich with. I was watching a video the other day where someone was talking about this, how if you want to be a millionaire and you're earning 100-200k, it will still take a decade at minimum, probably closer to 2, to save your way there. Starting a business is risky, but a much easier way to get there if you do succeed.

You won't lose social skills or relationship experience unless you want to. Doctors don't go and hide from the world while they study, and there are plenty of women in the field. But although a man peaks later than a woman does, it's not as if there aren't phases in one's life that tend to correlate with a certain age. If you're still feeling adventurous and like you need to live your life, going to med school may make things tough and hard to shake off the feeling of 'missing out' later on.

For me personally, I'm done with education. I don't think it's a great path toward financial freedom or even realizing one's ambitions. So my advice is to only do it if being a doctor is what you truly want. YMMV.

 

[Chase]

I used to be in a private forum with a seducer attending medical school. He called himself 'DoctorPlayer.' Cool guy.

He ended up basically only shagging nurses because it was really the only thing he had time for. He'd always be at the hospital doing his residency or out at bars with the nurses and his residency peers. So he'd go approach some random girls there, and the nurses would be all impressed, but he'd always end up going home with a nurse ultimately anyway.

He said it was a big incestuous thing, where all the nurses were sleeping with all the doctors. Basically like what you hear about working at a restaurant (all the waiters and waitresses and cooks all sleeping with one another).

We used to hang out from time to time. Picked up a couple of chicks on holiday in Vegas when he was out there for a medical conference (he got us some nice meals and club entries, all courtesy his hospital. Thanks for the trip, NYC hospital!). The last time I met him was half a decade ago. He was practicing internal medicine in NYC. Was doing pretty well financially, but he ended up telling me he envied me because he never really had the time to devote to seduction that I had. He was toying around with quitting his hospital to launch a medical startup and hopefully get more free time to himself to devote to seduction or some other pursuit.

Anyway, that's one guy's story, take from it what you will.

Chase

 

[Fuck This]

Seduction should not be a primary pursuit. Ith should be a secondary skillset to a life well lived. To give pursuit of seduction the sanme value as investing time in your future earnings is seeking validation. It's like saying investing money in Apple Stock could buy a lot of beer and pizza.

 

[Toby2030]

Ultimately you should figure out which life you want to live. Nobody can really answer the question you are asking other than yourself. Try to sit down and write down how you see your ideal life in 10 years. What will it look like? WIll being a doctor fit into the lifestyle you want or not?

 

[DaVinciMatrixStyle]

Ultimately you should figure out which life you want to live. Nobody can really answer the question you are asking other than yourself. Try to sit down and write down how you see your ideal life in 10 years. What will it look like? WIll being a doctor fit into the lifestyle you want or not?

This was so simple but very impactful. I never really thought about how I would want my ideal life to be in 10 years. That visualization definitely helped me answer my own questions.

I appreciate you.

 

[Chase]

I like @DML's sentiment here.

@Fuck This's sentiment is going to be on-point for lots of people.

Had I done it, I'd be in a much worse place today (I sacrificed career for seduction... which led to me improving with women way beyond what I would have had I not, it led to me getting ousted from the corporate world, led me to entrepreneurship, and ultimately 2x to 3x the net worth today I'd have had had I stayed the course in the corporate world, not to mention being in a much happier/better position with women... we wouldn't be having this conversation had I not gone down this path ).

But in my case that was because I knew myself and knew the corporate world wasn't for me, I just ended up there because I didn't know what else to do. Meanwhile seduction was something I had, at a deep, burning level, to throw myself into. So I did.

You need to figure out what really is most important to you and how much you'll prioritize it. Obviously, there are always going to be tradeoffs.

Many guys who focus primarily on career end up with mediocre dating/relationship outcomes. Many guys who focus primarily on dating/relationships end up with mediocre career/personal net worth outcomes. Some guys try to strike a balance and do okay in either but not as well as they'd have done had they worked on both. Then you get the guys who do just enough seduction to see slow-but-steady improvement, and they translate the gains they get from that into how they deal with people in their careers, allowing them to move quickly up the ranks.

Here's another thing to consider: what's your desired end game with seduction, and can you get there pursuing X path?

For instance, if you'd like to sleep with a few women and then marry one and start a family, what kind of women would you like to sleep with/marry? If your answer is "I'd love to sleep with some sexy nurses, then marry a successful female doctor or nurse or career woman who is intelligent and has money of her own" then you should 100% become a doctor because those are the kinds of results you'll get.

If the answer is "I want to sleep with tons and tons of women and eventually marry some submissive girl and I don't really care if she's educated at all" then becoming a doctor is going to make that a lot harder because 1.) you're not going to have the time to sleep with tons of women and 2.) you're not going to be in a position to meet submissive uneducated women.

Then there is also "desired end game with career / money." Do you want to be a respected professional with a nice house and a solid career? Doctor's great. Do you not really care a lot about money and you just want to do art? Don't be a doctor. Do you want a life of adventure, to be a traveling vagabond exploring the mysteries of the world? Don't be a doctor. Etc.

Are you going to have children? What kind of setting would you like to raise them in? Would being a doctor help that or hinder it? Etc.

All these are things to think about.

You can write out a list of pros and cons of the different paths available to you to help clarify your thinking, too.

Big life decisions need some good thought going into them.

Chase

 

[Fuck This]

Well thought out response Chase. My upbringing was always focused on college and a professional career. Now that I am Middle aged I am using those things I studied in school and thought I'd never use.


interesting study... https://jamesclear.com/delayed-gratification

 

[Dragon913]

Im in a similiar spot has the autor.

Im 26 and in a the middle of a 100k pilots course already paid for by my parents, it does have a time limit and if expired the school keeps my money.

Im torn between the studys and seduction, just cant do both the same.. since they require lots of time and effort.

I wanted to have a stable career to provide safety for my parents and also to fund seduction education, since courses and bootcamps cost quite a lot of money.

any story with a friend whos a airline pilot ? @Chase

 

[Fuck This]

Yeah My buddy Leo......

 

[Chrone]

Many guys who focus primarily on career end up with mediocre dating/relationship outcomes. Many guys who focus primarily on dating/relationships end up with mediocre career/personal net worth outcomes. Some guys try to strike a balance and do okay in either but not as well as they'd have done had they worked on both. Then you get the guys who do just enough seduction to see slow-but-steady improvement, and they translate the gains they get from that into how they deal with people in their careers, allowing them to move quickly up the ranks.

Interesting thoughts here Chase. Could you elaborate on what you mean by a primary focus on seduction? Would that be a life-long focus or a concerted effort over a couple of yours?

I personally feel that after a couple of years of mainly focusing on seduction I don't need to put as much time in it as I had to and neither do I want to put as much time in it. I'm now putting more time into my career and only learn new seduction related things on the side.

 

[Chase]

@Dragon913,

Im 26 and in a the middle of a 100k pilots course already paid for by my parents, it does have a time limit and if expired the school keeps my money.

Im torn between the studys and seduction, just cant do both the same.. since they require lots of time and effort.

I wanted to have a stable career to provide safety for my parents and also to fund seduction education, since courses and bootcamps cost quite a lot of money.

any story with a friend whos a airline pilot ? @Chase

Well, how much longer will the course take?

Your parents have already forked over the cash. You're in the middle of it.

I'd stick it out and see it through. If you don't want to be a pilot when it's done you won't have to. But at least you'll have that education. Maybe go fly planes for a few years. It pays well.

I don't have any good friends who are pilots but I like to pick up stewardesses and if you go to the lounges the pilots and stewardesses hang out at you will run into pilots there too. I've had some good conversations with some. They are always doing layovers in different cities... it is sort of ideal for seduction, if you ask me.

There was a funny conversation I had with a trio of pilots in a bar back in 2018. The pilot was in his 40s and I think divorced. There were two young co-pilots there in their 20s. The two young guys were fairly studly and we talked about girls. The one in his 40s was talkative and fun but apparently could not get girls. So I said to the cooler of the two young guys, "Why doesn't he just talk to girls? He's a pilot! They'll be all over him!"

He said, "Yeah, I know. I try to hint that to him but he doesn't believe it."

"Why don't you just tell him outright?" I said. "Why don't you meet some girls and introduce them to him?"

"Well, I can't tell him that," he said. "He's my pilot. I can't say that kind of thing to him."

It definitely seems like it'd be a fun job to meet chicks doing though.

Shag the stewardess.

Shag other chicks you pick up on your layovers (day game, night game... even *shiver* dating apps).

Easy reason to not have to hang around: "Sorry babe, I can't stay... I'm a pilot."

Easy urgency for ONSes: "I only have tonight. I fly out tomorrow."

Easy to maintain a rotation: "I'll be back in town again in two weeks. Meet me then?"

Plus, the pay is solid.

Seems like kind of a great job if you want to be a seducer, TBH.


@Chrone,

Interesting thoughts here Chase. Could you elaborate on what you mean by a primary focus on seduction? Would that be a life-long focus or a concerted effort over a couple of yours?

I personally feel that after a couple of years of mainly focusing on seduction I don't need to put as much time in it as I had to and neither do I want to put as much time in it. I'm now putting more time into my career and only learn new seduction related things on the side.

The latter: concerted effort for a series of years.

I don't know any guy who's made seduction his primary focus across a lifetime. It's all-consuming when it's a new hobby or obsession you're learning. Eventually it just becomes a part of your life. Many guys move on from it entirely, taking wives, having kids, or getting into alternative lifestyles like sex parties or hookers, etc.

You might like this article if you haven't seen it yet:

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Chase

 

[Chrone]

@Chrone,



The latter: concerted effort for a series of years.

I don't know any guy who's made seduction his primary focus across a lifetime. It's all-consuming when it's a new hobby or obsession you're learning. Eventually it just becomes a part of your life. Many guys move on from it entirely, taking wives, having kids, or getting into alternative lifestyles like sex parties or hookers, etc.

You might like this article if you haven't seen it yet:

What's the Endgame for a Playboy?

You won't stay young, wild, and energetic forever. So what happens to the old playboy when age catches up to him? Does he just fade away? Under my article "Male vs. Female Mating Motivations Laid Bare", a reader comments: hard question to ask, but it just seems having children or getting married...

www.girlschase.com

Chase

Thanks, that clears it up for me. I have personally certainly become more opportunistic with it than before. Also the girl needs to be prettier now than before to make it exciting again.

Regarding the original topic of this thread: I'm very happy to have focused first on seduction and only now on other things because I can now use the time that I still use on seduction and not on other things more efficiently. Also while learning seduction you highly sharpen all your social skills, so that helps with everything you attempt afterwards.

 

[Kaida]

Do you want a life of adventure, to be a traveling vagabond exploring the mysteries of the world? Don't be a doctor. Etc.

I do want a life like that. Maybe not a vagabond without a home or job, but I do want a life of adventure and lots of travel and thrill-seeking.

I’m 16, nearing the end of my high school and unsure of what I want to do during & after college. Because financial security is obviously something I want but it seems like that’s impossible to have along with a free, fun, and adventurous life. Is entrepreneurship the only job that provides financial security along with freedom?

 

[Chase]

@Kaiderman,

I do want a life like that. Maybe not a vagabond without a home or job, but I do want a life of adventure and lots of travel and thrill-seeking.

I’m 16, nearing the end of my high school and unsure of what I want to do during & after college. Because financial security is obviously something I want but it seems like that’s impossible to have along with a free, fun, and adventurous life. Is entrepreneurship the only job that provides financial security along with freedom?

Entrepreneurship is just "getting paid without having a boss." It could be running your own carpentry shop making chairs or it could be writing computer code as a consultant or it could be selling a product or service online.

Jobs these days are increasingly remote. It's been shifting that way for a while. All the work I had toward the end of my stay at a Mega Corp in 2010 was remote... I took vacation time to travel to Hawaii, and realized only when I returned I probably could've traveled there without taking any vacation and no one would've been the wiser, I just would've had to check in a few times a day and make sure I completed whatever tasks I had.

The best advice is to research a skill (or, ideally, two) that interests you, which you can do from anywhere in the world, and that is easily monetizable because it is in-demand and start learning it now. Learn it in your spare time from school, and 4-6 months in start taking consulting gigs on freelancing platforms, just a few hours a week (don't impact your schoolwork), as your job-training you get paid for. By the time you graduate you'll have a skill set you've developed for several years that you know how to find gigs doing, and that you can do from anywhere in the world as many or as few hours as you like.

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^ two very different jobs with high demand that you can do remotely and that pay well, for instance.

If you really want the gold cap, learn a programming language and copywriting at the same time. You'll be a jack-of-all-trades able to both develop and sell, which is something in very high demand and very short supply, given the nature of how we do business these days (i.e., much of it's online). Plus, should you decide you want to run your own thing, you'll have the means and ability to do so -- which is a very nice freedom to have.

Don't waste the free time you have while in school now. You can use it to set yourself up for a life everyone else will envy.

Chase