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DeepShadow

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@Chase I saw your articles on charisma and the latest on russel brand and I thought I'd suggest him.

Craig Ferguson.

In my opinion, there are few as smooth as him. Also I think he has fantastic frame control and uses your chase framing technique a lot and you can see how smooth he is with girls.
Also a tip if you did the analysis on youtube of the characters, it would be easier to follow and you would make a lot of views bringing many new readers and future customers.
Take a look is considered one of the men with more "savoir-faire".


Here is a video with several of his clips of him where he sexualizes and uses chase framing with solid frames.
craig

ps: I took your charisma course and can't wait to start it
 

Chase

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@DeepShadow,

He's not bad, yeah.

He's playful and mixes sexual humor in. Not terrible.

On the downside... he is rather jokey/goofy about it and he tends to frame himself as the pursuer quite often as well.

I've known a few guys who used this style of jokey/goofy sex humor where they scattershot framed it as sometimes the girl's chasing them, sometimes they're chasing the girl. Typically these guys are entertaining and fun to talk to, and they can get any girl laughing, but the hotter girls, while they will laugh and have fun with them, end up treating them as a fun friend. The girls you will see them hook up with are the average-to-cute girls.

That said, they have one big point in their favor: the fact that they are very outgoing and constantly throwing sex out there means that the girls who ARE attracted to them tend to make themselves known, so these guys usually don't have a problem with quantity... usually it is just quality.

(there are better role models to study if you want quantity AND quality. But if this style appeals to you and you're happy with girls in the cute range, this approach to flirtation could still serve you well)

ps: I took your charisma course and can't wait to start it

Cheers man! Hope it serves you excellently :)

Chase

edit: zipping through the whole video, most of Ferguson's guests are treating him as the fun friend... Olivia Munn, however, is a strong exception. She's definitely feeling Ferguson (multiple clips with her in this video).
 
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mist

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@DeepShadow,

He's not bad, yeah.

He's playful and mixes sexual humor in. Not terrible.

On the downside... he is rather jokey/goofy about it and he tends to frame himself as the pursuer quite often as well.

I've known a few guys who used this style of jokey/goofy sex humor where they scattershot framed it as sometimes the girl's chasing them, sometimes they're chasing the girl. Typically these guys are entertaining and fun to talk to, and they can get any girl laughing, but the hotter girls, while they will laugh and have fun with them, end up treating them as a fun friend. The girls you will see them hook up with are the average-to-cute girls.

That said, they have one big point in their favor: the fact that they are very outgoing and constantly throwing sex out there means that the girls who ARE attracted to them tend to make themselves known, so these guys usually don't have a problem with quantity... usually it is just quality.

(there are better role models to study if you want quantity AND quality. But if this style appeals to you and you're happy with girls in the cute range, this approach to flirtation could still serve you well)



Cheers man! Hope it serves you excellently :)

Chase

edit: zipping through the whole video, most of Ferguson's guests are treating him as the fun friend... Olivia Munn, however, is a strong exception. She's definitely feeling Ferguson (multiple clips with her in this video).
Damn great writeup. Def woke me up.

Sad to see one of the guys who got me started in game brought to deeper analysis of the frames and outcomes.

Results > Reactions.

Recently I've peeped how little lover frames, second gen verbals, and secret society is present in my sets.

I'm a pretty cool and attractive guy as far as I know with my sets, but I need more prevalence of those frames

For everything I like about Craig Ferguson he doesn't do his style nearly as well as Russel Brand.

Definitely need to finish up that charisma course, so I can see what there is to say on humor and its use. Also I need to pay attention to frames big time.
 

Chase

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@Mist22,

Russell Brand's a card, yeah. With no disrespect to Craig Ferguson, Brand is definitely a much more seductive individual.

You can even compare two clips of them running their bits on the same girl!

Here's Craig Ferguson with Carrie Keagan:


It's fun, it's playful, but you never get the sense there is a real flirtation there or any kind of attraction going.

And here's Russell Brand with Carrie Keagan:


That's a very different kind of interaction altogether.

Chase
 
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DeepShadow

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@DeepShadow,

He's not bad, yeah.

He's playful and mixes sexual humor in. Not terrible.

On the downside... he is rather jokey/goofy about it and he tends to frame himself as the pursuer quite often as well.

I've known a few guys who used this style of jokey/goofy sex humor where they scattershot framed it as sometimes the girl's chasing them, sometimes they're chasing the girl. Typically these guys are entertaining and fun to talk to, and they can get any girl laughing, but the hotter girls, while they will laugh and have fun with them, end up treating them as a fun friend. The girls you will see them hook up with are the average-to-cute girls.

That said, they have one big point in their favor: the fact that they are very outgoing and constantly throwing sex out there means that the girls who ARE attracted to them tend to make themselves known, so these guys usually don't have a problem with quantity... usually it is just quality.

(there are better role models to study if you want quantity AND quality. But if this style appeals to you and you're happy with girls in the cute range, this approach to flirtation could still serve you well)



Cheers man! Hope it serves you excellently :)

Chase

edit: zipping through the whole video, most of Ferguson's guests are treating him as the fun friend... Olivia Munn, however, is a strong exception. She's definitely feeling Ferguson (multiple clips with her in this video).
true probably maybe I saw it even better because the celebrity and host factor of the show gives him a position of greater power that makes him play to be more attainable maybe? who is a better model that you have mentioned? up to now I was inspired by modern actors like robert downey jr (an analysis on him would be fantastic) and past actors like clark gable.
I wanted to ask you something about the course, in the future you will also put courses with subtitles as with youtube with automatic translation? I don't know if there are tools to add certain extensions to videos.
 
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