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I want your feedback, brothers - hence posting this as FR instead of Night Mission Debriefing.
Have you ever had a girl super interested, but then withdraw when you returned that interest?
Event organized by a dance school: Loads of girls who know how to move, none I’d die over.
No chance this one’s from around here, my friend exclaims. Curious. Make my guess then ask her. Us three guys and the three girls exchange our origins. Positive interaction. Don’t make an effort to keep a conversation.
A bit later, standing alone, get hit on by another girl. Enjoy the early attention. Then excuse myself to check out another part of the venue.
See first girl talking to another guy. Immediately breaks up the conversation to turn and talk to me instead. Wow. That’s new even for me.
Find out she just turned 21, loves travelling, met the group she’s with just yesterday at the hostel she’s staying at.
Remember to move. (I live forgetting that.) Invite her to a drink at the bar.
Then separate for a bit. Regularly re-engage. Leave my IG in her phone’s notes so she can get in touch once she has signal. Get more touchy. Still seems to be looking for ways out every time I get too close for "too long".
At one point have her stand close by, put my arm around her. Move to sit together - my arm now around her lower back. Holds my hand on the other side. Smell and kiss her neck.
We separate again.
A couple of guys around are obviously crazy about her - many great dancers.
Don’t want to be too clingy, but at the same time get nervous about loosing her. Remember other experiences where giving in to the very urge to cling caused the girl to run. So I know that doesn’t work. But is "just not clinging" enough either?
Find another guy loosely chatting to her - standing shoulder-to-shoulder with a bit of gap between. Hesitate too long: Another one enters the scene and takes her hand to dance.
Know I need to calm down. Find secluded spot, look at the scenery, remember mil-tech of box breathing:
4 seconds in, 4 seconds hold, 4 seconds out, 4 seconds hold, repeat.
Works.
Amazing view, isn’t it?, a guy appears to my left. Surprised by the ensuing conversation. Feel that this encounter might some day turn out to have marked a defining moment in my life.
Back to the girl. Find her surrounded by a circle of guys. Fight the urge to go around the circle and take the pressure to instead cut straight through. Take her hands head-on and pull her in.
She’s still reluctant. Remember gambit from Get Girls Chasing: Give a Little to Get a Lot. Execute, though rather rookie-style: "Feeling a bit dizzy here. I’ll wait for you downstairs."
Find a huge-boobed blonde mama in her late 30’s that I’ve been curious about. Decide to chat to her for the rest of the time. Mentions being married, but keep wondering if that would hold her back from anything - or even if her type of relationship would allow to be be with others. After all, I try to avoid seducing girls into cheating.
Glance at every girl passing by, but it’s never the one. After quite a while, move the blonde to a less noisy spot. Surprise: The girl is standing right there with her friend. Kindly say hi. They start to head straight back to the dance floor, but I say: "Wait. Stay for a bit." Doesn’t seem totally opposed. Take her hesitation as opportunity and direct myself at her friend: "Can you leave her to me for a moment?"
The blonde mama has stepped aside respectfully already. Hold the girl’s waist, as she puts her arms around my shoulders. Tell her to lend me her tongue as we make out. Is self-cautious, worried of others watching. Grab her hand. Notice the resistance, but take her around the next corner where at least less people can see.
Tell her I live nearby. Seed the idea of joining me. I’m not gonna make it that easy. Dislike the comment. "Easy for me or easy for you?" She’s still uneasy or hesitant about this. "Wanna go back to dance?" Yes. Slap her butt: "Go, enjoy the party!" Expect this to add the spirit of a couple being out and the boyfriend allowing the girl to single out for a bit. Proud of the move.
After a short break return to the blonde mommy: "Pardon the interruption
" Friend of hers asks: Where’s your girlfriend? Respond with the location of my MLTR (different country). Hehe. Clarifies that she’s referring to this girl here. "Oh, her! Upstairs dancing, I guess." Asks me the age of the girl, then mine. Always amusing to feel the sub-communication of disdain for age difference from a third party.
Stay with the mum. Very much enjoy our conversation and the experience she has to offer due to being a business owner. Exchange details.
When the party is about to end, find girl still being danced to by at least two guys.
Know I have to do something. Overcoming my fear of potential negative compliance I walk up: "I’m about to leave. Join me downstairs to say goodbye."
Instead of insisting to say good bye right there, as I would have expected, she actually complies! Follows me. Back at the secluded spot, lean against a rail, face her. Ask what her plans are now. Repeat that I live at walking distance and add: "You know, I’m much older than you." … Looking straight into her eye, add: "I want to take you with me … fuck you."
Delivery is weak, feels like a request and thus fails to create the shock-and-awe effect. Try to frame this moment as her opportunity.
Act cool about her reaction, wish her a good night and, to avoid any sentiment of clingyness, go for an obvious kiss on the cheeks.
Grab my stuff. Find my friends to say goodbye. Take a route where she can potentially see me walking tall - if she was looking at all.
Would notice in the morning she had actually followed me a couple of hours later - at around 4 am. Once she accepted my back-follow, I’d write: "waking up to your follow - kind of hot"
Introspection
Have you ever had a girl super interested, but then withdraw when you returned that interest?
Event organized by a dance school: Loads of girls who know how to move, none I’d die over.
No chance this one’s from around here, my friend exclaims. Curious. Make my guess then ask her. Us three guys and the three girls exchange our origins. Positive interaction. Don’t make an effort to keep a conversation.
A bit later, standing alone, get hit on by another girl. Enjoy the early attention. Then excuse myself to check out another part of the venue.
See first girl talking to another guy. Immediately breaks up the conversation to turn and talk to me instead. Wow. That’s new even for me.
Find out she just turned 21, loves travelling, met the group she’s with just yesterday at the hostel she’s staying at.
Remember to move. (I live forgetting that.) Invite her to a drink at the bar.
Then separate for a bit. Regularly re-engage. Leave my IG in her phone’s notes so she can get in touch once she has signal. Get more touchy. Still seems to be looking for ways out every time I get too close for "too long".
At one point have her stand close by, put my arm around her. Move to sit together - my arm now around her lower back. Holds my hand on the other side. Smell and kiss her neck.
We separate again.
A couple of guys around are obviously crazy about her - many great dancers.
Don’t want to be too clingy, but at the same time get nervous about loosing her. Remember other experiences where giving in to the very urge to cling caused the girl to run. So I know that doesn’t work. But is "just not clinging" enough either?
Find another guy loosely chatting to her - standing shoulder-to-shoulder with a bit of gap between. Hesitate too long: Another one enters the scene and takes her hand to dance.
Know I need to calm down. Find secluded spot, look at the scenery, remember mil-tech of box breathing:
4 seconds in, 4 seconds hold, 4 seconds out, 4 seconds hold, repeat.
Works.
Amazing view, isn’t it?, a guy appears to my left. Surprised by the ensuing conversation. Feel that this encounter might some day turn out to have marked a defining moment in my life.
Back to the girl. Find her surrounded by a circle of guys. Fight the urge to go around the circle and take the pressure to instead cut straight through. Take her hands head-on and pull her in.
She’s still reluctant. Remember gambit from Get Girls Chasing: Give a Little to Get a Lot. Execute, though rather rookie-style: "Feeling a bit dizzy here. I’ll wait for you downstairs."
Find a huge-boobed blonde mama in her late 30’s that I’ve been curious about. Decide to chat to her for the rest of the time. Mentions being married, but keep wondering if that would hold her back from anything - or even if her type of relationship would allow to be be with others. After all, I try to avoid seducing girls into cheating.
Glance at every girl passing by, but it’s never the one. After quite a while, move the blonde to a less noisy spot. Surprise: The girl is standing right there with her friend. Kindly say hi. They start to head straight back to the dance floor, but I say: "Wait. Stay for a bit." Doesn’t seem totally opposed. Take her hesitation as opportunity and direct myself at her friend: "Can you leave her to me for a moment?"
The blonde mama has stepped aside respectfully already. Hold the girl’s waist, as she puts her arms around my shoulders. Tell her to lend me her tongue as we make out. Is self-cautious, worried of others watching. Grab her hand. Notice the resistance, but take her around the next corner where at least less people can see.
Tell her I live nearby. Seed the idea of joining me. I’m not gonna make it that easy. Dislike the comment. "Easy for me or easy for you?" She’s still uneasy or hesitant about this. "Wanna go back to dance?" Yes. Slap her butt: "Go, enjoy the party!" Expect this to add the spirit of a couple being out and the boyfriend allowing the girl to single out for a bit. Proud of the move.
After a short break return to the blonde mommy: "Pardon the interruption
" Friend of hers asks: Where’s your girlfriend? Respond with the location of my MLTR (different country). Hehe. Clarifies that she’s referring to this girl here. "Oh, her! Upstairs dancing, I guess." Asks me the age of the girl, then mine. Always amusing to feel the sub-communication of disdain for age difference from a third party.Stay with the mum. Very much enjoy our conversation and the experience she has to offer due to being a business owner. Exchange details.
When the party is about to end, find girl still being danced to by at least two guys.
Know I have to do something. Overcoming my fear of potential negative compliance I walk up: "I’m about to leave. Join me downstairs to say goodbye."
Instead of insisting to say good bye right there, as I would have expected, she actually complies! Follows me. Back at the secluded spot, lean against a rail, face her. Ask what her plans are now. Repeat that I live at walking distance and add: "You know, I’m much older than you." … Looking straight into her eye, add: "I want to take you with me … fuck you."
Delivery is weak, feels like a request and thus fails to create the shock-and-awe effect. Try to frame this moment as her opportunity.
Act cool about her reaction, wish her a good night and, to avoid any sentiment of clingyness, go for an obvious kiss on the cheeks.
Grab my stuff. Find my friends to say goodbye. Take a route where she can potentially see me walking tall - if she was looking at all.
Would notice in the morning she had actually followed me a couple of hours later - at around 4 am. Once she accepted my back-follow, I’d write: "waking up to your follow - kind of hot"
Introspection
- Realized shortly after that I should have added more points to my disqualification-as-orbiter. Next time I’ll deliver it something like: "You know - three things: I’m much older than you … And on top I have a girlfriend. We probably never meet again. I want to fuck you. Now." Maybe calibrate with "… then accompany you to you hostel, like a gentlemen. [smirk]"
- In situations like the one with the blonde mom, in the future, I will straight-out ask how they carry their relationship. Did so the day after via chat.
- Adding punctuation to my message … may be a detail to consider in similar texts in the future.
- Overall I did much better than in similar situations in the past. I think I have to be (much?) more of a challenge to get the girl to realize I’m actually the best among the plenty options and get her to chase hard - but how?
- Ready for comments!
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