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[AsianPersuasion]

This could be my last field report in a good while. Before I had taken the advice to tone down my game, I had hit on a girl in American Eagle and made her feel uncomfortable. She reported it to security, and today, the place I was planning on getting interviewed for a job disallowed me from entering their doors again. The security also apparently approached a girl I had talked to to tell her that I do this kind of stuff all the time, so I'll most likely be cock-blocked if I go into this mall.

To make matters worse, the girl the security talked to was with her friend, whom I had coincidentally approached yesterday at a mall in a different city... I get the feeling from the look on her face that I'll be reported there too.
With my two staples gone, I have no idea what the future looks like, but nonetheless, I'll write as many details of my day as I can.

Girl #1: My day of pickup started out in the Whole Foods Market 30 minutes from my home. It's a nice city.. not as populated as a mall, but I'd use it for day game if I lived close enough.
Me: "I didn't want to be one of those guys that just stared at you from a distance without telling you how great you looked. I'm AP!"
Her: "Oh, hi... I'm (name)"
Me: "So what are you doing here, besides flirting with an awesome guy?"
Her: "Um.. you know.. checking out Vitamins. I'm not from here though..."
Me: "Oh! Okay, where are you from?"
Her: "Boston."
Me: "And you're staying here for how long?"
Her: "3 days, with my friend"
I tried to ask another question, but she walked away fast. It was getting uncomfortable for me too, so I shrugged it off and moved on.

Girl #2: This one was standing by the dairy isle.
Me: "I didn't want to be one of those guys that walked right past you without telling you how great you looked. I'm AP! I think you look gorgeous!"
Her: "Oh my god, thank you! I'm (name)."
Me: "So what are you up to? You know, besides flirting with an awesome guy in the supermarket."
Her: "Haha! Just buying food."
Me: "Haha, are you into nutrition and stuff too?"
Her: "Well, I'm a vegetarian."
Me: "But not vegan huh.. So that means you still eat dairy and eggs right?"
Her: "Yeah! What about you? Are you vegan?"
Me: "Well no.. I do eat meat, but I go here to get the free range and organic stuff. The animals get treated much better, and it makes me feel less guilty. Anyway, tell me something interesting about yourself! I want to know your story."
Her: "Um.. I'm a lawyer, and I live with my boyfriend not to far away from here. Sorry."
Me: "Oh, that's okay! If we get along well, we can just be friends right?"
Her: "Haha, definitely! I just don't want to like waste your time or anything. What do you want to be?"

I commented that if we stayed in touch, she'd always have a job with me around. Then came the doctor monologue and how I'd get lawsuits from drug companies all the time. I tried as best I could to expand the lawyer thread by talking about how exhilarating but stressful it must be, but the conversation went bad, and she thanked me for stopping by before she left.

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Girl #3: So I went back to my newly found hunting ground where I was to later get in trouble with security. My first stop was DSW, where I found a girl and chatted her up. Same opener, because I seem to get warmer receptions with that one.
Her: "Oh, thank you!"
Me: "So what brings you here? Besides to talk with an awesome guy and all?"
Her: "Um... just shopping for shoes and all."
Me: "Oh okay, awesome. For a special event or anything?"
Her: "No, not really."
Me: "Okay, well, now that I've picked up my balls to come talk to you, tell me something amazing about yourself!"
Her: "Um.. I'm not sure."
Me: "Do you want me to start us off then?"
Her: "Sure!"
Me: "(Guitar, art, photography, medical monologue...) Your turn!"
Her: "Okay, well I want to go to school for sign language!"
Me: "Oh really, so for like deaf people right?" (Bad response.)
Her: "Yeah."
Me: "What's the sign for Chinese?"
Her: "Um... I don't know. This is the sign for China though! *makes sign for china*"
Me: "Haha, I heard the sign for Chinese was *I pull one eye slanted*"
Her: "Hahaha! That used to be the sign, but it's not 'politically correct' anymore, so they changed it."
Me: "So you know signs that aren't politically correct then, huh. Can you show me some?"
Her: "No, hahaha! I'm not doing that.. Well.. I'm going to continue shopping now, but it was nice meeting you!"
And on I went.

Girl #4: I went to a nearby Michael to see if I could find an aspiring artist there, and as I was walking out of the bathroom, I spotted a girl with her mom. Same opener.
Her: "Oh thank you! Haha, I'm (name)."
Me: *turning to her mom* "Hi! Are you her mom?"
Mom: "Yep!"
Me: "Sorry if I'm interrupting anything, I just thought your daughter was really cute."
Her: "No, you're fine!"
Me: *to the mom* "Do you mind if I talk to your daughter for five minutes? Or do you want to hear what I have to say first?"
Mom: "Mmmm.. I don't know, I think it depends on what you'll be saying... *to daughter* Plus you're turning fifty shades of red haha!"
Me: "Haha, does this not happen often to you?"
Her: "No! Haha!"
Mom: "Yeah, I don't know why either! I mean she's a pretty girl!"
Me: *to daughter again* "So what brings you here to an arts and crafts store? Besides all the awesome artist guys anyway.."
Her: "Haha, I'm actually looking for a frame for the picture I have for my boyfriend's birthday..."
Me: "Ohh, gotcha. Well that's really sweet of you! May I see? I'm a really artsy kind of person myself, only I haven't found any inspiration in years."
Her: "Sure! *shows me a large picture of a hockey game*"
Me: "That's really nice. Did you take that?"
Her: "Um, no, my boyfriend just really likes hockey, so I bought it, and now I'm trying to find a frame."
Me: "That's so sweet! Well, your boyfriend is a very lucky guy... and he's got great taste!"
Her: "Hahaha! Thank you!"
Mom: "You're very sweet!"
Me: "Well, I don't want to keep you too much longer. It was nice meeting you two!"
Mom: "Yep! Nice meeting you too!"

Girl #5: I was heading to H&M to return the vest I bought yesterday when I saw a gorgeous blonde walk out.
Me: "I didn't want to lose my chance and become one of those guys that just watched you walk out without telling you how great you looked. I'm AP! I think you look fucking adorable in that outfit!"
Her: "Oh my god! You just made my day! Thank you, I'm (name)."
Me: "Glad I could make your day! So what are you up to besides flirting with an awesome guy?"
Her: "Oh, just shopping!"
Me: "What'd you buy? *gesturing to her bag*"
Her: "Haha, you wanna see what's inside? *shows me a skirt* My friend had one, so I just had to buy it too!"
Me: "Well, there's never a bad reason to look good! Haha, I'm actually here to return something."
Her: "Oh, well what didn't you like?"
Me: *pull out the vest* "Bought it yesterday, but I'm kinda strapped for cash right now, so I need to return it."
Her: "Oh, gotcha!"
Me: "So tell me something interesting about you! I want to know the story of the cute girl I found walking out of the shop!"
Her: "Um... I don't know.. Well, I work at Wild Bill's!"
Me: "Oh, I've never actually eaten there, haha!"
Her: "Yeah, actually I'm just on break, but I have to go now."
Me: "Okay, before you go then.. I didn't get the chance to get to know you as well as I liked to, and I'm still curious. Do you want to exchange phone numbers?"
Her: "Mmm... No, sorry, I don't think my boyfriend would like that."
Me: "Okay, see you later!"

Girl #6: This one was also with her mom in a shop where I met the red haired girl. I was intending to friend zone the red head, but I saw the girl, who smiled at me.
Me: "I wanted to get out of the view of my friend over there, but I wanted to tell you that I think you look amazing! I'm AP!"
Her: "Haha, oh thanks! I'm (name)."
Me: *turning to her mom* Hi, are you her.."
Mom: "I'm her mom, yes."
Me: "I'm AP! Sorry, I hope I'm not interrupting anything."
Mom: "Well we are shopping.."
Me: "Do you think I could have 5 minutes with your daughter? I won't be long.. I promise!"
Mom: *looks at daughter*
Her: "Sure!"
Me: "Okay, tell me something amazing about yourself."
Her: "Um... I don't know.. I'm in gymastics?"
Me: *whispering to her* "So that means you're flexible.."
Her: "Haha! Yeah I guess so! Other than that, I'm really not sure..."
Me: "Well, if you can't think of anything, do you think I could try to say something amazing about you?"
Her: "Haha, sure!"
So I launched Chase's three animals game, and she thought it was spot on.
Me: ".. Pretty awesome huh? Anyway, I don't want to keep you any longer, but I think you're really cool and I'd like to meet up sometime! Do you think we could exchange numbers?"
Her: "Um.. Sorry, I have a boyfriend, and I don't think he'd be okay with that.."
Mom: "Yeah, he probably wouldn't."
Me: "Okay, well do you want to be just friends? I still think you're really cool."
Her: "Well, I don't live around here. I'm like an hour away."
Me: "Oh, okay, well, nice meeting you!" *turning to the mom* "And thank you for being so cool about this."
Mom: "Yep."
Her: "Thanks though!"

Flake #1: At that moment, I realized my phone wasn't in my pocket, and I was supposed to keep track of time for my interview. I retraced my steps, running back to the shop and back to the DSW, where I asked if they had seen it. Nobody did, but they said I was free to look. As I was looking, I spotted an attractive girl and opened to her.
Her: "Oh, thank you! I'm (name)"
Me: "So what are you up to today? Besides flirting with an awesome guy?"
Her: "Haha, oh just shopping."
Me: "So anyway, I want to know your story a little better. Tell me something interesting about yourself."
Her: "Um.. I don't know."
Me: "Well, maybe I can say something interesting about you?"
Her: "Sure!"
I launched Chase's three animals game again, but before she could answer, her friend called her. She asked me to come with, so I did. As it turned out, her friend was a girl I had previously talked to at a totally different mall just yesterday, and she was pretty miffed that I was doing this with another girl in another city.

Me: "Well, I think she's cute, and you said no." (That was bad. I was totally unprepared and just reacted.)

Her and I continued the game and I later put my number into her phone. I thought the interaction went well, but after my episode with security, I texted her back, and she told me that security told her I do this all the time, and now she thinks I'm a creep.

Flake #2: This one was in the shop I was planning on getting my interview in. They had me wait, but since I hadn't yet worked there, I didn't see anything wrong with chatting up a girl I thought was cute. After all, they go through all that trouble looking good, and I wasn't about to let that effort go unnoticed.
Her: "Oh, thank you! That just made my day! Haha, I'm (name)"
Me: *turning to her friend* "Are you two friends? Hi, I'm AP! I hope I'm not interrupting anything between you two."
Friend: "Nope! You're fine!"
Me: "So anyway, tell me something interesting about you! I want to know your story a little better."
Her: "Um.. I don't know.. I can't really think of anything haha!"
Me: "Well, do you think I could try to say something interesting about you?"
Her: "Sure!"
I launched the Three Favorite Animals Game, but she couldn't think of anything either, so I tried the Strawberry Fields game.
Me: "..So, is it accurate?"
Her: "No! Haha!" (She said the fence was 10 ft high, she ate 5 strawberries, and thanked the owner afterwards.)
Me: "Well, I'm probably gonna have to get to my interview soon, but I want to meet up with you again sometime. Do you want to exchange numbers?"
Her: "Well.. I've got a boyfriend, and I'm not sure he'd like that."
Me: "How bout we just be friends then? Like strictly platonic?"
Her: "Then sure!"

So I put my name in her phone and we parted ways. I saw an employee come talk to her right after I left, but figured it was nothing until the manager came to talk to me.

I found out at that point that the American Eagle girl had reported me to the place and to security. I had let it slip that I was going for an interview at Buckles, and she ended up telling the manager and security. They gave me this lecture about how the whole place was a business and not some dating site, and I'm not allowed back into Buckles. Plus, they now have their eyes out for me.

When I texted the girl back, she pretended that I had the wrong number. I knew why immediately, and didn't persist.

So now that the security in this mall is bent on cock-blocking me whenever they see me, and that the whole place knows my name and probably my description, this hunting ground is now closed off to me.

Making matters worse, a girl I had hit on at the other mall happened to be around, and I have a good guess she'll be reporting me at the other mall too.

Things I did well:
1) My conversation has improved significantly
2) I'm cracking less under pressure
3) I approach everyone now that catches my attention. Not just girls.

Things I can improve on:
1) Not getting caught by security
2) Conversation, still
3) Finding another hunting ground

Lessons Learned:
1) Don't shit where you eat. (Too late.)
2) Don't visit the same hunting ground too often or you'll be recognized and reported. (Too late.)
3) Mall security is a bitch

This isn't so much a blow to my ego as a realization that my options have significantly dwindled. I won't stop approaching, but so far, it looks like my days of actively going out specifically to approach could be over... To find more grounds, I may need to wait until I can move somewhere else. Today really fucked things up, and I'm no longer sure where I can continue my learning. I really appreciate all the input you guys have given me all this time.

Laowai, Light, Franco, you guys seriously rock from all the advice you've given me. I promise, I'll never let any of it go to waste. I'll find a new place to learn someday and never forget the lessons my seniors have passed down to me.

Zphix, PrettyDecent, Jake D., Brentwoodbam, TomGrey, all of you. Your good words really keep a guy going when he's forcing himself out of planes to learn how to fly. Thank you. Keep making progress.

And thank you Chase, if you read this. I'd have never gotten to this point had you never taken the time to originally make the site, write such in depth posts, and make this forum. This has been the most life changing thing I have ever done.

I hope I can get to writing again soon, but I've sorta found myself in a rut. I guess my main question for now is, "What should I do next?"

 

[PrettyDecent]

Hey AP,

I guess this was a long way coming for at least one of us lol. In all seriousness, though, shit happens, and we've got to learn from it. Getting talked to by security puts a sour taste in your mouth, but let's look at this from a meta-standpoint. You've already faced failure hundreds of times from the girls you meet, and you kept going, right? It was all the way you looked at it. You probably said something like "Ah, well that's a shame, I liked that girl. But who cares, time to find a new one who's more interested in me (and hopefully better looking...!)!" This situation is no different, so stop thinking of it differently. You can find a different venue (like going on streets, visiting meetup events, public transportation, vary it up!)

Your progress with the opposite sex and PU is seriously to fast to quit now. You'll lose key momentum to your progression. I took a break a few months ago, and I'm still paying the price of a hit in motivation. Taking breaks can be absolutely fatal to making progress. Think of it like this -- you're on the brink of finding the success that you want, and if you push through, you'll attain it. You'll feel truly great about having a rockin' hot GF or FWB, and you'll probably never need to put in this kind of work again to pick up women of that caliber. However. If you quit, you're going to quickly rack up your Approach Anxiety, lose your excellent conversational skills, and start from square 1 whenever you inevitably restart, when you've lost your abundance mentality and are trying to claw your way out of a hole.

This is simply a sticking point. That is it. You weren't going to quit for other sticky points, were you? Find a way around it, until you reach the goal. Keep up the FR's brother. Your jokes are too damn witty for me to stop stealing them

Jake

 

[HalfGuard]

That really sucks man I hope that you find some new place to keep practicing soon, I will take care of stuff like this also as I always practice in the same mall every weekend because it is like 6 minutes from my house , but I think I will mix it up with some other ones to avoid this kind of situatuion, anyway good luck and don´t quit this thing now.
-HG

 

[TomGray]

PrettyDecent is absolutely right about not taking a break. Nearly the exact same thing happened to me at my school and it filled me with so much shame and paranoia that I nearly stopped talking to girls and lost a lot of progress. Good point about going different places though. I guess I should experiment soon. (Universities are a gold mine, though )Anyway, always remember one thing: NEVER STOP DOING IT. Sometimes, you may slow down. Or even have to take a break. But never stop altogether. It's just like working out. Even if you don't see results, KEEP DOING IT. I believe in you.

 

[Laowai]

Hmmm... I'm thinking that a lot of the girls tell you that they have BFs. Seeing how good a talker you are, did you consider doing indirect game instead for a change? Just to see if you can talk them up and make them attracted enough to number-close / instant date?

Me: "Okay, well, now that I've picked up my balls to come talk to you, tell me something amazing about yourself!"
Her: "Um.. I'm not sure."
Me: "Do you want me to start us off then?"

This is good. This is you helping her along.

Those mom and daughter sets you really might want to consider going indirect on in the fashion I suggested the other day. However, I'm in no position to advice you here, since I never did a mother and daughter set myself.

Me: "Haha, does this not happen often to you?"

This. This implies that YOU do this all the time. So leave it out.

Her: "Yeah, actually I'm just on break, but I have to go now."
Me: "Okay, before you go then.. I didn't get the chance to get to know you as well as I liked to, and I'm still curious. Do you want to exchange phone numbers?"

Here you should have paced her reality and said acknowledged to her that you understood that she was busy: "of course, you're on your way to work. It's that way?" ... and then started walking with her in that direction. You can also ask her if she's cool with you walking and talking to her.

So I launched Chase's three animals game, and she thought it was spot on.

This is gamey stuff that's best avoided in the initial approach plus it will get you nowhere in this situation since it doesn't strengthen the connection with her.

Me: "Oh, okay, well, nice meeting you!" *turning to the mom* "And thank you for being so cool about this."

This implies that you've done it before and that other mothers were less cool about it.

At that moment, I realized my phone wasn't in my pocket, and I was supposed to keep track of time for my interview. I retraced my steps, running back to the shop and back to the DSW, where I asked if they had seen it. Nobody did, but they said I was free to look. As I was looking, I spotted an attractive girl and opened to her.

Dude, you got balls of steel. Not only do you have an imminent job interview, but you just lost your cell phone, but instead of freaking out you just approach the next cute girl who comes along.

I launched Chase's three animals game again, but before she could answer, her friend called her. She asked me to come with, so I did.

Gamey stuff. Avoid such games during the initial pick-up. So, she actually asked you to move with her to meet with her friend? That's a good sign. However. You should just have number-closed her there, since introducing an external element (her friend) rarely progresses the pick-up but most of the time fucks it up. That's why you need to check for what they are out doing, and if they are meeting a friend you got an idea of the time frame you're working in and must number-close in. See how moving with her to meet the friend worked against you?

Me: "Well, I think she's cute, and you said no." (That was bad. I was totally unprepared and just reacted.)

Good self-awareness. Don't react. Stay chilled.

she told me that security told her I do this all the time, and now she thinks I'm a creep

Before I learned to control my energy levels and my approach I've had a few girl literally shiver with fear while one actually screamed in surprise when I waded out in front of her on the street. Silly inexperienced me, I was then. Back then I felt bad for days. But just a few months ago I was chatting up a girl in Copenhagen who was alone and then suddenly from nowhere her very angry husband jumps in from hyperspace and shouts at me to: "Step back! Step baaack!!"... I was shocked immediately after it happened, but then I thought: "my god, what a douche. Couldn't he have acted more chilled about it and laughed at it?". You can never be certain about anything in this game. Expect... well, expect nothing. Learn from it all, and your effort and discomfort will not have gone to waste. Also, learn to laugh at it and shrug it off.

Flake #2: This one was in the shop I was planning on getting my interview in. They had me wait, but since I hadn't yet worked there, I didn't see anything wrong with chatting up a girl I thought was cute. After all, they go through all that trouble looking good, and I wasn't about to let that effort go unnoticed.

I get the feeling again and again that you don't think about consequences. Don't. Shit. Where. You. Eat. Again, care about your reputation!

I launched the Three Favorite Animals Game, but she couldn't think of anything either, so I tried the Strawberry Fields game.

Dude, you know better than this. Routines like these are for dates, NOT for day time approaches. Focus on getting the steps right that I sent you instead of this. They are a waste of her time and your time, and they will get you nowhere off the approach. It's ALL about building an emotional connection.

Laowai, Light, Franco, you guys seriously rock from all the advice you've given me. I promise, I'll never let any of it go to waste. I'll find a new place to learn someday and never forget the lessons my seniors have passed down to me.

Cheers, anytime. It's my pleasure to see you grow at this pace. I also like that you're humble. Please stay humble. That's what Chase does. That's what Artisan does. That's what PUA Kane Vast does. That's what DanielBloom of this forum does. I've met all these guys, and it makes them super likeable that despite of their mad successes, they haven't allowed their successes to get to their heads and have remained with their feet on the ground.

What to do now? Don't quit. Copy and paste all the advice to MS WORD and make sure to go through it regularly (hint: don't show your parents). Any other malls nearby to do pick-up in? Alternatively, you can try to go back to those malls again after you wait a few months.

If you continue at this pace, soon I will not have more advice to give : )

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Thanks guys. I think I might have an idea as a last ditch effort. The streets near the Whole Foods Market is nothing like New York City, but it's populated enough to practice day game for at least a little bit. The downside is that the place is very scarce and there's no telling if I'll even meet one pretty girl there every day if I walked the streets... And it's a 30 minute drive that'll make me spend more gas... The upside, no mall security

There is one last mall, but there's construction between that place and mine, and I've gotten lost trying to get through the detours before. I'll try to find my way to it, but this time, I'll steer clear of the hired guns.

The reason that I do direct so much is that few girls even realize Asian men are attracted to non Asians, due to the lack of approaches they get from them. For that reason, I try to state my intention quickly to have them consider me before I continue... It's partly to make them consider me as a romantic option when they wouldn't normally, and partly to screen the ones that won't be interested.

I'll try as best as I can to find opportunities to get out there with my two new options. And this time, I'll be more careful not to shit where I eat.

And thank you everyone, for believing in me. I'll be back out in the field as soon as I can.

 

[Smurf]

Don't worry, AP! I believe that you can get back in the field in no time! Just a simple sticking point for you!

I'm in the stands for you, bro!

Jake.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Jake D., I think I might be able to come back sooner and more frequently than I thought.

Despite what mall security tried to tell me yesterday, I doubt I've really broken any rules during my interactions with customers.

1) I am simply an outgoing, impulsive heterosexual guy that gives compliments to people that catch his eye. I have as a matter of fact, approached and complimented men too if they were wearing the shirt of a band that I liked, or if I really liked their style. I happen to approach women more because they generally dress better, and well, I'm straight.

2) I naturally create conversation with the girls and the guys when I comment on how they caught my attention, and I don't see any reason that should be considered overstepping my bounds.

3) I do recognize that the employees have a job to do, and as inauthentic as it would be to think they look great and not tell them, will not from this day forward do anything to distract them from that job.

I will approach mall security to talk it over with them as soon as I can. If they ask if I would have sexual intentions with customers of the opposite sex, I'll simply tell them that I was born with a penis, and I would be lying to say no. Hopefully I can make the place my hunting grounds again with an okay from security. If at the end they won't stop being cockblocks, I can at least say that I tried.

 

[Smurf]

AP,

That definitely sounds like a plan. Make sure to relate to them and understand their side of the issue, too. Whatever you do, I wouldn't start an argument with them if this is a good hunting spot for you. If this fails at the first mall though, you can always try the other mall and do the same thing if any problems arise.

Honestly, I hate malls but I haven't found anything much greater than it. Like you were saying and we talked about earlier, you run into a lot of girls that are MUCH younger than they look( I attribute this to the negative influences of T.V. and celebrities). If this thing works out with security, great! If not, that's great as well, you have to roll with the punches. No matter the outcome, It's all for the better. I'd also suggest trying to find other places to approach. That street you talked about sounds okay, but there's plenty of streets, and you can definitely find some that bring fruit. Maybe an outdoor mall type of thing?

Started rambling there, sorry. Like I said, I hope for the best, man! Good luck!
Jake.

 

[Laowai]

Jake D., I think I might be able to come back sooner and more frequently than I thought.

Despite what mall security tried to tell me yesterday, I doubt I've really broken any rules during my interactions with customers.

1) I am simply an outgoing, impulsive heterosexual guy that gives compliments to people that catch his eye. I have as a matter of fact, approached and complimented men too if they were wearing the shirt of a band that I liked, or if I really liked their style. I happen to approach women more because they generally dress better, and well, I'm straight.

2) I naturally create conversation with the girls and the guys when I comment on how they caught my attention, and I don't see any reason that should be considered overstepping my bounds.

3) I do recognize that the employees have a job to do, and as inauthentic as it would be to think they look great and not tell them, will not from this day forward do anything to distract them from that job.

I will approach mall security to talk it over with them as soon as I can. If they ask if I would have sexual intentions with customers of the opposite sex, I'll simply tell them that I was born with a penis, and I would be lying to say no. Hopefully I can make the place my hunting grounds again with an okay from security. If at the end they won't stop being cockblocks, I can at least say that I tried.

I doubt you'll get anything useful out of this. They see a guy hitting on girls and making some of them uncomfortable and that's enough for them to know that you're "trouble".

Don't expect them to be reasonable or even willing to listen to you. If you do ask them about whether you have sexual intentions with them, tell them that you're looking for a girlfriend that way instead. Drop the line about your penis.

I'd probably just wait a few weeks / months then try again.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

There will be no talk to security. I just got a call from the police, and I am now banned from the entire shopping center effective for one year.

Oh well, at least I got my answer hahaha

 

[PinotNoir]

Dude, that is so dumb haha.

From the shopping mall's perspective, it makes sense. They're thinking, "Girls will be less willing to come shop if they think that some creepy guy will hit on them!" It's private property, and they don't want to take any chances of losing "business." It's not about you or the girls; it's about money.

However, from my perspective of seeing the posts and details that I have, none of it was that bad. You complimented the girl, tried or succeeded in building conversation, and then asked for the number. If they said no, you went on your way. It wasn't like you were swinging your penis around or yelling at girls, "Hey! Nice pair of jugs!"

I think it only got "creepy" because you did it to so many girls and in such a short amount of time (similar to a "creepy" guy I knew in high school who asked out like 10 girls at once during a school lunch... not a good idea. Your situation is different, since actually using game). Honestly, I think some girls got a little butt-hurt that she wasn't the only special lady that day and that some "player" (i.e., a guy practicing to be better with women) was running around loose.

No use crying over spilt milk though.

With as much passion and courage as you have, I suggest setting a max limit: 3 max at 1 spot per every other day. You can approach 6 women, but do 3 at a mall and 3 at a grocery store. Then wait a day. This will also get you focusing in on only the girls most attractive to you, while also trying to tighten your game. If you think "man, this is the last girl I have a shot at talking with today!" you'll put more energy and time on the approach (pre-opening), the opener, the conversation, and the close (during a high point in the conversation). In fact, if it's a good conversation and you find out that she is not busy (important), take her on a date right then if possible (and say screw it to approaching anymore women that day). Normally, these kind of rules and mindsets would create approach anxiety in most men, but we all know that you are not most men

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Thanks PinotNoir! That sounds like a good rule to go by. I should probably stick to that along with no more hitting on the employees since it's kinda unfair because they don't have a choice but to talk to me. In any case, now I know better to be discreet.

Haha, I can't help but laugh thinking about all the poor guys that happen to look like me that will be getting approached by mall security over the next year or so. If they decide to play it loose and go after every single short guy with black hair, tan skin, decent build, and an Asian looking face, that's a racial lawsuit waiting to happen.

...Or, they won't. In which case, I could probably sneak back in wearing my old clothes, glasses, hair in my face, and drooping my shoulders if I needed to do some legitimate shopping.

My only concern right now is the letter the police are planning to send in my mail, which I'll be watching closely to intercept.

 

[Smurf]

Man, that's completely absurd. I guess you can't do anything because it's law enforcement, but I can't understand how they can ban you for ONE YEAR.

One of my "friends" got banned for a year from a grocery store for stealing. Obviously one of the girls that talked to the police over exaggerated EXTREMELY. Oh well, there's nothing you can do about it now. Just take it as a way to spur you to find an even better place to pick up girls. And like Pinot said above, you might not try approaching too many women if this is what will happen.

Stay strong, man.

Jake.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Well the guy from the police that called me told me that multiple people called in to report me. I'm guessing that they went around to each shop to see if I had hit on anybody, which would be enough to report me I guess haha.

Oh well, I might as well take responsibility for my decision. I knew the risk and chose to take it anyway, so I'll just find a new place to take my risks.

And yeah, if my quantity is to go down, I need to focus even more on making each interaction better quality.

Good success to you, bro!