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@Atlas IV asked for a basic structure here ....... I am not going to go into pics, apps, etc.... I will go more over the "structure".... Guys that i seen good at online, we all share kind of identical structure, i know because we were all in underground groups together.... Everyone, knows who they are, there are some things i can't share cause some of the guys have not allow me to... But here is the basic structure, the more effective opener lol, is from topcat and is so ridiculous you will never imagine what it is (can't share), but hint is just a ping similar to eyes emoji ping but nothing like that...(you will never guess), is so ridiculous that i can't believe it works...
Open or get open> minimally banter or statement>the how are guys treating you here, question> qualify>move of app>regular texting (read my texting post/archives)
CRITICAL.- timing for opening has to be fast, so as soon as you match you got a open.......the goal of opening online is just to generate a response... -never compliment looks online - DO NOT EVER USE THIS WORDS EVER: sexy, beautiful, mami, mama, babe, sweeti, gorgeous.... Do not compliment any body part, actually no compliments ever online....
if she opens you reward opening (bumble)....
her.- hey (women are lame openers and that is fine, they know is your role to carry convo)
me.- Hey Tiffany i hope we matched, (i am rewarding her opening), how are guys treating you here? (this is the go to question always online)
her: she will usually complain, or if she does not it, does not matter the importance again is the structure, and she will sometimes ask you the same question back to you...
^ here you will calibrate to her response, oh wow, a lot of creepers, I guess the bar level is low... Me, i can't complain, to be honest (never talk bad about matches or online experience but don't brag)
Now if she answers positive, Glad to hear that i welcome the competition that will just make you appreciate me more when you get to know me,...
^ now again we always FINISH WITH A QUESTION.... Just curious, What are your 2 best qualities that have nothing to do with your appearance? or you can ask how happy are you in your life from 1 to 10? or depending on how it goes, one then the other question.... No more than 2...
when she answer comment super minimally on her answer and answer if she ask you back (with dhv sub inserted)
for example me: oh that is so cool, me My sense of humor and my relationship skills, Tammy i think you are safe and someone worth getting to know, i am barely here text me at 23452345423534, say this is tammy from whatever dating app. so i know who you are, if i don't text you back right away is not because i am not interested or playing too cool for school ,but because i may be busy with clients. (or school, work, uni etc... Can't believe i have to explain this, had a student that told me "i have not client" facepalm"
^ here she will text you or contact you, or give you ig or give you her number....
When you switch to outside of app. is were you do regular texting (from my guides)...
Sample:
me: You look like Britney Speers on her prime "give me baby one more chance"
her: lol, and you look like Vin Diesel...
Me: yeah that use to work for me till he made that baby sitting move, a bunch of little kids yelling "the pacifier" everywhere i went... Anyways, so how are guys treating you here?
her: lol, is a bit overwhelming, a lot of creepers and is just bad..... How about you?
Me: does not surprise me, i hear that a lot, good for me, measurement of competition none existent.... Tbh i can't complain, Tiffany, just curious what are the 2 best qualities that have nothing to do with your appearance?
Her: I am very caring blah blah blah, and i have a big heart blah blah blah... (i don't even want to make this up cause most of the time is irrelevant none sense, they can't even answer the question right), how about you?....
me: my sense of humor and my relationship skills, Tiffany and how happy would you say your life is right now from 1 to 10, 10 being best....
her: i would say a 7 and they go into another block of text on none sense.... how about you....
me: right now i am at an 8, cause i am never comfortable and i am always striving to be better and i miss my capoeira group(martial arts group) they move far away...(never go less than 8 and don't go negative),
tiffany i think you are safe (always say safe) and someone worth getting to know, i am barely here (always say this)
am barely here text me at 23452345423534, say this is tammy from whatever dating app. so i know who you are, if i don't text you right away back is not cause i am not interested or being playing to cool for school but because i may be busy with clients.
^ 3 things.- she will text you, or she will not text you, or she will give you her number or social media........ Does not matter the outcome. (don't ask for her number or social media)
^ online is not regular seduction, game is more like sales, lead funnel, you just want to go through the structure....
Additional resources:
www.skilledseducer.com
Guys are asking me about openers (i can't share my opener) pwf openers for 2024 and rates of success:
Open or get open> minimally banter or statement>the how are guys treating you here, question> qualify>move of app>regular texting (read my texting post/archives)
CRITICAL.- timing for opening has to be fast, so as soon as you match you got a open.......the goal of opening online is just to generate a response... -never compliment looks online - DO NOT EVER USE THIS WORDS EVER: sexy, beautiful, mami, mama, babe, sweeti, gorgeous.... Do not compliment any body part, actually no compliments ever online....
if she opens you reward opening (bumble)....
her.- hey (women are lame openers and that is fine, they know is your role to carry convo)
me.- Hey Tiffany i hope we matched, (i am rewarding her opening), how are guys treating you here? (this is the go to question always online)
her: she will usually complain, or if she does not it, does not matter the importance again is the structure, and she will sometimes ask you the same question back to you...
^ here you will calibrate to her response, oh wow, a lot of creepers, I guess the bar level is low... Me, i can't complain, to be honest (never talk bad about matches or online experience but don't brag)
Now if she answers positive, Glad to hear that i welcome the competition that will just make you appreciate me more when you get to know me,...
^ now again we always FINISH WITH A QUESTION.... Just curious, What are your 2 best qualities that have nothing to do with your appearance? or you can ask how happy are you in your life from 1 to 10? or depending on how it goes, one then the other question.... No more than 2...
when she answer comment super minimally on her answer and answer if she ask you back (with dhv sub inserted)
for example me: oh that is so cool, me My sense of humor and my relationship skills, Tammy i think you are safe and someone worth getting to know, i am barely here text me at 23452345423534, say this is tammy from whatever dating app. so i know who you are, if i don't text you back right away is not because i am not interested or playing too cool for school ,but because i may be busy with clients. (or school, work, uni etc... Can't believe i have to explain this, had a student that told me "i have not client" facepalm"
^ here she will text you or contact you, or give you ig or give you her number....
When you switch to outside of app. is were you do regular texting (from my guides)...
Sample:
me: You look like Britney Speers on her prime "give me baby one more chance"
her: lol, and you look like Vin Diesel...
Me: yeah that use to work for me till he made that baby sitting move, a bunch of little kids yelling "the pacifier" everywhere i went... Anyways, so how are guys treating you here?
her: lol, is a bit overwhelming, a lot of creepers and is just bad..... How about you?
Me: does not surprise me, i hear that a lot, good for me, measurement of competition none existent.... Tbh i can't complain, Tiffany, just curious what are the 2 best qualities that have nothing to do with your appearance?
Her: I am very caring blah blah blah, and i have a big heart blah blah blah... (i don't even want to make this up cause most of the time is irrelevant none sense, they can't even answer the question right), how about you?....
me: my sense of humor and my relationship skills, Tiffany and how happy would you say your life is right now from 1 to 10, 10 being best....
her: i would say a 7 and they go into another block of text on none sense.... how about you....
me: right now i am at an 8, cause i am never comfortable and i am always striving to be better and i miss my capoeira group(martial arts group) they move far away...(never go less than 8 and don't go negative),
tiffany i think you are safe (always say safe) and someone worth getting to know, i am barely here (always say this)
am barely here text me at 23452345423534, say this is tammy from whatever dating app. so i know who you are, if i don't text you right away back is not cause i am not interested or being playing to cool for school but because i may be busy with clients.
^ 3 things.- she will text you, or she will not text you, or she will give you her number or social media........ Does not matter the outcome. (don't ask for her number or social media)
^ online is not regular seduction, game is more like sales, lead funnel, you just want to go through the structure....
Additional resources:
Date Plans - The complete guide on How to date - Dating dynamics 101
Why listen to me on this, well i was never good at dating, i would either do ons or long texting (second gen/grandmaster) setting up sexual encounters or i would replicate what happened in the club a second time by doing a club date (since I am the highest value guy in the dance floor made...
www.skilledseducer.com
Guys are asking me about openers (i can't share my opener) pwf openers for 2024 and rates of success:
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