Best expert level resource on doing the body language (rather than reading it)

[Mewtwo]

What resource (book or webpage) would you recommend to better understand body language? I'm looking for something on the expert level and something that focuses on doing the body language rather than reading it. Ideally something that would focus on all body language (not just body language related to the attaraction). I find most of the body language advice very general and it's usually about reading the other persons body language rather than doing it yourself. And most of them focuses way too much on the state of your mind rather than how exactly to move your body (or which muscles to tighten or relax). And there's usually way too much fluff that just wastes your time. I'm interested in something that would allow me in detail to understand how does body language works. Something that would tell me if you move your hand this way it influences these specific parts of the body in a specific way and the effect on other people is this and this.

E.g. something like moving your shoulders up will affect your diaphragm and chest in a certain way and will make your eyes and the tongue move certain way. And that will make you more angry/defensive or whatever else. If you tighten this specific muscle it will affect the other body parts this and that way and to others it will signal this and that emotion.

 

[ulrich]

Don’t know man, sounds like you are overthinking it.

 

[Derek da man]

If you try and "project" too much information that isn't true to you through your body langague you will come accross as fake or at least incogruent. There's too many small and subtle pieces of information being comunicated. When we see different messages coming from someone we don't go for one or other, we just get a confused message.

You may be better looking at NLP (neuro-linguistic-programming) if you are trying to comunicate something to someone else but it's very specialised.

I'm no expert and have no qualifications in this, but I have looked at some of the research about different attempts at this.

 

[James D]

Why do you want to get expert level body language?

 

[Mewtwo]

This is basically connected to this topic.
In short - there's is an almost miraculous method using purely body language that can make almost any woman to fall in love with within seconds purely by looking at you. I've done this few times in the past mostly by accident but I'm not able to do it on command. I have some rough idea about body language involved but there's some key instruction missing. I've been obsessing about this for years but I'm not able to find it. This is an attempt to find something I've missed.

 

[James D]

How many girls have you laid or had them fall in love with you using that miraculous method?

 

[Mewtwo]

How many girls have you laid or had them fall in love with you using that miraculous method?

Around fifteen. I've only done this few times in my life often only for a very short period of time. I usually realized it only in retrospect when a girl who repeatedly refused me in the past or knew me for a long period of time and was completely indiferent to me suddenly changed her mind. But I was able to retroactively pinpoint some of these moments to an exact second. Interestingly enough some of those moments happened relatively shortly after I was angry with a girl. I was once aware of doing this in real time for several days in a row and it was basically every girl I met during that time (sometimes I haven't even talked to them) that started exhibiting some signs of attraction (I'm not sure of the exact number in this case - I'm not even sure whether I noticed all of them). I didn't date all of them.

I'm basically looking for some inspiration now. Something that would point out some body part or muscle or some interaction I didn't properly consider and maybe that could lead me to some new idea. I feel like I'm running in circles and missing something important. So if you know about anything that would describe in detail various body movements I would appreciate it.

The self-confidence I'm looking for in this case is a little bit of opposite than most people would imagine. It's not "laid-down", move slowly, attention grabbing, "making yourself bigger" but rather bit inconspicuous, lean forward, "quickly reacting", "be able to argue with somebody" and maybe even bit aggressive.

I suspect that the key to this position lies somewhere in stomach, diaphragm and chest combination. (Actually chest doesn't really have many muscles and is moved mostly by diaphragm and stomach should probably as relaxed as possible. So what I'm looking for is a way to somehow in a non-forceful, natural and stable way expand the diaphragm that in turn would expand the chest to the front and both sides without expanding it up or leaning too much to the back).

 

[Kvothe]

Love Systems - Beyond Words is a good one to check out

 

[Kvothe]

This is basically connected to this topic.
In short - there's is an almost miraculous method using purely body language that can make almost any woman to fall in love with within seconds purely by looking at you. I've done this few times in the past mostly by accident but I'm not able to do it on command. I have some rough idea about body language involved but there's some key instruction missing. I've been obsessing about this for years but I'm not able to find it. This is an attempt to find something I've missed.

oh jeez never mind what I linked is unlikely to solve this, though i doubt any such course exists. But Love Systems - Beyond Words was a good body language course that I found helpful.

OP if you ever figure out and systemize what you're proposing, please make a course and let the GC staff vet it to see if it works, then sell it

 

[Teevster]

Love Systems - Beyond Words is a good one to check out

+1

-Teevster

 

[Chase]

@Mewtwo,

We have a number of articles on the site focused on practicing body language:

Opening Body Language

The other day I had a reader send me a question about body positioning during opening: is it better to open over your shoulder, he wanted to know, or facing toward the girl? It's a somewhat confusing topic, actually, and one I've seen a lot of guys struggling with when they're starting out. They...

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Sexy Body Language for Men (Learned from Hot Girls)

I thought this would be a fun article to write. If you haven't spent much time learning body language and expressions from the very sexy and attractive women you meet, you've been missing out on a valuable source of highly applicable lessons in being sexy, seductive, and downright charming...

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Classroom Body Language and Other Casual Situations

You’ve probably been brought up to think that leaning on posts, putting your feet up, leaning back on chairs, and slouching a little bit is the key to looking good in the classroom, but if we are being honest here, no one cares, and these little tweaks are not really going to have any impact on...

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Classroom Body Language Part II: Positioning and More

This is the follow up to “Classroom Body Language and Other Casual Situations”. Women don’t see the world logically; when it comes to body language they explicitly avoid logic and instead just “feel” things out. They generally don’t think “Oh it is okay that that guy chose a corner” or “Well he...

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Day Game Tour with Tony Depp, Pt.2: Openers and Body Language

When you talk to a girl, it’s not all about the words you say. Good insight, tone, and body language speak volumes more than words ever could. Contents 1. Direct Openers 2. Indirect Openers 3. Insights, Not Observations 4. Situational Openers 5. Body Language 6. Conclusion In part one of my...

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Seductive Body Language and Mannerisms That Attract Women

Your body language says loads about you. These seductive mannerisms let women know instinctively that you’re a cool, sexy guy – who’s probably good in bed, too. Contents Eye Contact Open Your Shoulders Raise Your Hands Adopt a Casual Stance Cradle Your Hips Lead with Your Hips Elegant Hand...

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7 Facial Expressions That Drive Women Wild

Most guys who want to get good with girls focus primarily what to say when they first start out. Me? Pretty early on, I focused on facial expressions. Ever wonder why girls go so crazy for certain Hollywood stars? Many of them are good-looking, sure... but there are plenty of good-looking men...

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Elegance, Sexiness, and Average, Normal People

I was sitting in a cafeteria having a quick bite to eat the other day when I saw an elegantly dressed young woman in a long but casual summer dress stroll in at the far side of the cafeteria, turn about slowly and elegantly as she assessed her surroundings – perhaps looking for someone, or...

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That's not including all the articles on eye contact, posture, movement, etc.

You may want to check out my fundamentals series on GirlsChase.TV -- I have numerous videos devoted to body language there... most of the first 9 videos in the series are devoted to it (some are free, some are premium):

Fantastic Fundamentals 1: Becoming a More Attractive Man

What makes a man attractive?Is it his jawline? Height? The space between his eyes? Perhaps the symmetry in his face and body?While those things beyond a man’s c

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Fantastic Fundamentals 2: What to Keep in Mind with Fundamentals

In this series, we’ll dive into a whole host of ways to make yourself more attractive.Before we dive in though, we first must cover a few of the ground rules to

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Fantastic Fundamentals 3: Body Fundamentals

There’s a lot you can change about your body.Yet most men focus on the WRONG things. Things like jawline… eye spacing… height… face shape… skin color…Things the

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Fantastic Fundamentals 4: Posture

Posture is one of the simplest fundamentals to fix — yet also one of the most impactful.Excellent posture makes such a tremendous difference in how a man looks

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Fantastic Fundamentals 5: Electric Eye Contact

The eyes are the window to the soul.They’re also your single greatest attraction tool.The way a man uses his eyes allows him to suck in and mesmerize… or tease

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Fantastic Fundamentals 6: Expressive Facial Expressions

Facial expressions allow someone to convey what he’s feeling on the inside.They’re one of the most important aspects of nonverbal communication — yet most men r

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Fantastic Fundamentals 7: Magnetic Mannerisms

Mannerisms are for your body what expressions are for your face.How do you develop mannerisms that truly communicate what you wish to, though?In this lesson, we

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Fantastic Fundamentals 8: Movement

Movement is a lot subtler than what we talked about in the lessons on facial expressions and mannerisms.Yet it has a noticeable impact on the way a man presents

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Fantastic Fundamentals 9: A Sexy Male Walk

Your walk says so much about you — to men and women alike.Why do people pay so much attention to walk though… and how do you get a truly sexy male walk?Discusse

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Finally, we also discuss body language in-depth in One Date & The Dating Artisan, and cover the research on it extensively as well. A lot of this is right in the first lesson, where we talk about fundamentals, but there's also an ongoing of what your body language should be discussed at various points throughout the course, depending on the topic of discussion.

I'm not really a fan of "get into state" stuff personally (social momentum aside, which is excellent and vital!), since IMO state is fleeting and guys need to be able to operate regardless of state.

So, in my opinion, it is worth mastering all this stuff passively, so you can come across as optimally as possible even when you don't feel great.

There's also the brain-body feedback loop, which I discuss in One Date... state-focused guys rely on good state to lead to good body language, but it works the reverse way too: when your body language is excellent, the body reads that and says, "Wow, I must be feeling really good!" and suddenly you feel great.

Easy way to try it: next time you're feeling low, straighten your back way up, throw your shoulders back, puff your chest out, and hold your head high, then just keep things that way for a few minutes. See how you feel after that. You'll realize you feel like a champ. Pretty cool, right?

Brain-body feedback loop.

You can do the same thing with sexiness... adopt sexy nonverbals, and suddenly you just start feeling sexier and sexier...

For additional study, you may want to look into Alexander technique, which is a body language training system... I share the few snippets of it I'm familiar with in One Date (and found very useful), but I haven't taken the full training.

Chase

 

[Regal Tiger]

Love Systems - Beyond Words is a good one to check out

Never heard of it but I did a quick Google search, found a link and it seems to have been taken down?

Since people are recommending it I'd like to check it out. Maybe it's just cuz it was through YouTube? Not sure

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

You're going to want to look into books on acting, and obviously watch a lot of actors. But it's the nonverbal aspects of acting that make it believable to the audience.

The eye contact or lack thereof.
Tremors in the lip.
Changes in tone, pitch, speed of talking.
Facial expressions, micro expressions...

More subtle things like what reaction the audience expects, versus what the actor does - and how that changes the meaning of a scene...

Coincidentally, The most recent episode of Barry (S4 E4) has some great acting from Noho Hank. But the whole series is about a hitman becoming an actor, so there's all sorts of acting lessons that are a part of the plot.

Silent movies are good for this as well.

The game can get much deeper, in that you can approach a pickup with a more narrative flair. In terms of putting P into V, adding technique is all ego stroking and overkill - but it's all there if you want.

 

[Conquistador]

Thought I’d mention that lately I’ve realized that even what feels to the smirker like a very slight smirk is quite visible. So no need to overdo it (at least if your face is as mobile as mine).