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It's been officially 6 years since I've joined this forum. I recently re-reposted my first ever LR (and post on the forum).
What I remembered from reading this report and a few others on the boards right now, is that there is almost NOTHING that makes you better with women quicker than field reports.
It's almost as good as coaching...almost
For every guy reading this, don't just be a lurker. You gain almost nothing from it. If you're not posting your field reports, you're lengthening your learning curve.
Why?
1. Field reports force you to be honest. Whenever I do coaching calls with clients, all I normally do is say, "Tell me some stories with girls from the past (time we haven't talked since)." And while they're telling me a story, they will sometimes go, "Uh...okk, well then I texted her this..." and get embarrassed. They already know they fucked up, but maybe they didn't see it until they told the story or they knew it but didn't look at their mistake in the face and force themselves to accept it.
2. Field reports allow other to see holes in your game that you can't. It's community coaching.
3. You will have a record of your progress/plateaus/problems. Some of my greatest insights were from reviewing old field reports or remembering old encounters, from years back, and then seeing that I still have X problem or I did fix Y problem and this is why it's connected with my NEW problem. I've had times where Chase gave me a comment on a private field report I'd send him and I didn't really learn the lesson until YEARS later, then when I think about that particular report, I remember, "OH FUCK, Chase told me this YEARS ago and I didn't focus on it as much as I should."
Details matter. As does the story. If you write the field report in story form and give as much detail as possible, even if you think it's irrelevant, you will have a better chance of catching your weaknesses. The best way to gauge where you fucked up is to read your own report and then wait for you to cringe at yourself. You'll feel like "hmm...something is off here." You might not know what (and that's why we're here to review it), but at least you'll know where to look now.
So please do yourself a favor and start writing field reports.
AND DON'T DO THIS SHIT
This is incredibly unhelpful. Sometimes I can figure out her and the seduction from general outlines, but a lot of times, I can't. For instance, you could THINK you two were flirting but she was only giving you the bare minimum of flirtation necessary for a date to not fucking suck. Or you could think she's not that interested and you actually could pull.
Can't count how many times students would tell me stories with a blah-attitude and then when they finish, I say, "You know she wanted to fuck, right?" They're surprised.
They didn't see what I see, so what to tell them was innocuous was to me a great sign of success (or failure).
Even if it's a thirty second encounter, you can find your problems in that thirty seconds.
You're always the sum of all your last few approaches or lays.
Better reports take time to write, but I'd rather write one great field report that's 5 pages long, but I learn a lesson that gets me laid. Well worth the time.
Reading the reports of others is good, but if you're only reading and not writing yourself, you're not learning much. It's mostly entertainment, because the game other guys run is very unique and you don't know how they come off/look/etc. in real life, so it's difficult to properly learn, but you do know details about YOU and HER, because you were there. And if you can properly convey all the necessary details, not only will you benefit, but others will, too, because they'll have as full of a context as they can have to properly understand WHY what you did worked (or didn't).
Give that story life and share it with others and yourself with maximum details, and both you and others shall benefit.
So get to writing!
Hector
What I remembered from reading this report and a few others on the boards right now, is that there is almost NOTHING that makes you better with women quicker than field reports.
It's almost as good as coaching...almost
For every guy reading this, don't just be a lurker. You gain almost nothing from it. If you're not posting your field reports, you're lengthening your learning curve.
Why?
1. Field reports force you to be honest. Whenever I do coaching calls with clients, all I normally do is say, "Tell me some stories with girls from the past (time we haven't talked since)." And while they're telling me a story, they will sometimes go, "Uh...okk, well then I texted her this..." and get embarrassed. They already know they fucked up, but maybe they didn't see it until they told the story or they knew it but didn't look at their mistake in the face and force themselves to accept it.
2. Field reports allow other to see holes in your game that you can't. It's community coaching.
3. You will have a record of your progress/plateaus/problems. Some of my greatest insights were from reviewing old field reports or remembering old encounters, from years back, and then seeing that I still have X problem or I did fix Y problem and this is why it's connected with my NEW problem. I've had times where Chase gave me a comment on a private field report I'd send him and I didn't really learn the lesson until YEARS later, then when I think about that particular report, I remember, "OH FUCK, Chase told me this YEARS ago and I didn't focus on it as much as I should."
Details matter. As does the story. If you write the field report in story form and give as much detail as possible, even if you think it's irrelevant, you will have a better chance of catching your weaknesses. The best way to gauge where you fucked up is to read your own report and then wait for you to cringe at yourself. You'll feel like "hmm...something is off here." You might not know what (and that's why we're here to review it), but at least you'll know where to look now.
So please do yourself a favor and start writing field reports.
AND DON'T DO THIS SHIT
This is incredibly unhelpful. Sometimes I can figure out her and the seduction from general outlines, but a lot of times, I can't. For instance, you could THINK you two were flirting but she was only giving you the bare minimum of flirtation necessary for a date to not fucking suck. Or you could think she's not that interested and you actually could pull.
Can't count how many times students would tell me stories with a blah-attitude and then when they finish, I say, "You know she wanted to fuck, right?" They're surprised.
They didn't see what I see, so what to tell them was innocuous was to me a great sign of success (or failure).
Even if it's a thirty second encounter, you can find your problems in that thirty seconds.
You're always the sum of all your last few approaches or lays.
Better reports take time to write, but I'd rather write one great field report that's 5 pages long, but I learn a lesson that gets me laid. Well worth the time.
Reading the reports of others is good, but if you're only reading and not writing yourself, you're not learning much. It's mostly entertainment, because the game other guys run is very unique and you don't know how they come off/look/etc. in real life, so it's difficult to properly learn, but you do know details about YOU and HER, because you were there. And if you can properly convey all the necessary details, not only will you benefit, but others will, too, because they'll have as full of a context as they can have to properly understand WHY what you did worked (or didn't).
Give that story life and share it with others and yourself with maximum details, and both you and others shall benefit.
So get to writing!
Hector
