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This is the part 2 of strategic position of weakness... It is more like a cont. cause there are some things i did not cover in the original... read original prior to this one...
In my original was more with girls you have not bang yet context.... And i did not cover other things that are strategic... This is for more of:
- Current mains, or friends with benefits
- women that PERCEIVE YOU as higher value and unattainable and unchained
- Just like above women that know you have other women directly or indirectly and are having anxiety.
- women that due to both of the above want out or autoreject.
- women that the friends and social group or family are in the ear against you.
^ many other things i can go on and on, but the point is the girl is CONFLICTED cause she WANTS YOU, LIKES YOU, but knows what is coming in a NEGATIVE LIGHT.... FUTURE WITH YOU WILL BRING IN HER PERSEPTION ---->Hurt, pain, break up, stress, anxiety...... A total negative outcome...
UNLIKE part 1 of the strategic position of weakness was more with me talking about more of a misunderstanding or screw up to buy time to convert....., this one is aimed to cover post recent sex, in rotation but i do want to veto to cover opening and hooking though no the main goal of beta maxing so i need to address it...
Lets start a large portion of new gen as i sound like a broken record is bipolar.... Can be socially awesome in some stages opening, socializing.... Can be awkward as fuck in other stages such as mid game, relationship, texting, sex etc.... Please don't ask me the why? i don't worry anymore about the why?, if you know then cool.... I am generalizing by the way as disclaimer...
So what beta maxing, romantic maxing, cringe maxing etc.... From a position of higher value can balance stuff out and bring COMFORT, oh now you get it.... Even if is over the top it does not matter cause again this is coming from guys of higher value, cool sexy guys, cool tribal elders i am not talking about an incel or a normie or even decent guys that get a lay here and there.... I am talking about the perceived chads, cool guys, actual skill seducers that are overwhelming women indirectly just by presence, sex skills, lifestyle, vibe were the girls is so filled with anxiety, feels so out of control, feels so conflicted that is causing her psyche to go on overdrive and wanting to be out aka auto reject....get me??
^ guys screw this up cause you can't game all women different, seen guys "i am going into her frame" "i am not suppose to chase" "i am not suppose to _______ fill in the blank" without understanding the context...
the goal as you being the ONE UP in the interaction or relationship is to bring YOUR SELF DOWN to LEVEL UP, so she can come down..... And by the way even you doing this, she kind of knows what you are doing, but you are getting her validated, you are giving her wins, you are giving her some perceived control, so she can chill a bit....
Things that work in text, person etc... :
- nothing community that you learn temporarily in the situation again NOTHING.
- normie, npc nice guy normal cringe game
- love booming.
- anything like the social programming blue pill.
- courtship type behavior
-everything we consider afc and everything you used to do pre community...
^ once you achieve the 3 lays or she is TOTALLY LOCKED IN, LET ME REPEAT TOTALLY LOCKED IN, you can re-stablish boundaries, go into honesty type sessions, have the talk, and go back to normal....
I was going to post this in advance, but you have sooo many guys that are in the intermediate or going through some hot streaks that i seen screw this up... And are sooo dogmatic that lost girls.... But this probably won't apply to most situations or most of you.... SO CONTEXT... When i made the first strategic of weakness post people went into overdrive using it as a technique which was not the goal of the post...
I am going to add some discussion for other part of seduction such as pre-opening, hooking and ais, that are kind of connected to beta maxing in another post i made on tweacks in new era @darknight said:
@POB said:
i said
@POB said
so this is an umbrella of betamaxing again the goal is to come down level up a bit so women can chill, relax not be overwhelmed.... Again this i saw first a guru named ijjjjji coming to this realization, but back then i did not understand due to he used to go into posting diahreah mental masturbation and silly graphs.... Looking back now i understood and brought i up to @TomInHo who is more on the jakck side, black intimidating side, so he played with it...:
In my original was more with girls you have not bang yet context.... And i did not cover other things that are strategic... This is for more of:
- Current mains, or friends with benefits
- women that PERCEIVE YOU as higher value and unattainable and unchained
- Just like above women that know you have other women directly or indirectly and are having anxiety.
- women that due to both of the above want out or autoreject.
- women that the friends and social group or family are in the ear against you.
^ many other things i can go on and on, but the point is the girl is CONFLICTED cause she WANTS YOU, LIKES YOU, but knows what is coming in a NEGATIVE LIGHT.... FUTURE WITH YOU WILL BRING IN HER PERSEPTION ---->Hurt, pain, break up, stress, anxiety...... A total negative outcome...
UNLIKE part 1 of the strategic position of weakness was more with me talking about more of a misunderstanding or screw up to buy time to convert....., this one is aimed to cover post recent sex, in rotation but i do want to veto to cover opening and hooking though no the main goal of beta maxing so i need to address it...
Lets start a large portion of new gen as i sound like a broken record is bipolar.... Can be socially awesome in some stages opening, socializing.... Can be awkward as fuck in other stages such as mid game, relationship, texting, sex etc.... Please don't ask me the why? i don't worry anymore about the why?, if you know then cool.... I am generalizing by the way as disclaimer...
So what beta maxing, romantic maxing, cringe maxing etc.... From a position of higher value can balance stuff out and bring COMFORT, oh now you get it.... Even if is over the top it does not matter cause again this is coming from guys of higher value, cool sexy guys, cool tribal elders i am not talking about an incel or a normie or even decent guys that get a lay here and there.... I am talking about the perceived chads, cool guys, actual skill seducers that are overwhelming women indirectly just by presence, sex skills, lifestyle, vibe were the girls is so filled with anxiety, feels so out of control, feels so conflicted that is causing her psyche to go on overdrive and wanting to be out aka auto reject....get me??
^ guys screw this up cause you can't game all women different, seen guys "i am going into her frame" "i am not suppose to chase" "i am not suppose to _______ fill in the blank" without understanding the context...
the goal as you being the ONE UP in the interaction or relationship is to bring YOUR SELF DOWN to LEVEL UP, so she can come down..... And by the way even you doing this, she kind of knows what you are doing, but you are getting her validated, you are giving her wins, you are giving her some perceived control, so she can chill a bit....
Things that work in text, person etc... :
- nothing community that you learn temporarily in the situation again NOTHING.
- normie, npc nice guy normal cringe game
- love booming.
- anything like the social programming blue pill.
- courtship type behavior
-everything we consider afc and everything you used to do pre community...
^ once you achieve the 3 lays or she is TOTALLY LOCKED IN, LET ME REPEAT TOTALLY LOCKED IN, you can re-stablish boundaries, go into honesty type sessions, have the talk, and go back to normal....
I was going to post this in advance, but you have sooo many guys that are in the intermediate or going through some hot streaks that i seen screw this up... And are sooo dogmatic that lost girls.... But this probably won't apply to most situations or most of you.... SO CONTEXT... When i made the first strategic of weakness post people went into overdrive using it as a technique which was not the goal of the post...
I am going to add some discussion for other part of seduction such as pre-opening, hooking and ais, that are kind of connected to beta maxing in another post i made on tweacks in new era @darknight said:
When your fundies are a bit too good women are also going to unnecessary hide interest or act aloof. Basically what happens is you can notice their incongrues behavior, so you know they like you, but when you talk to them they are going to act very aloof and uninterested. Basically they are trying to get you to like them more, it is SUPER annoying haha, as if there are not enough logistical worries to contend with already.
@POB said:
Agreed....first they are all over you....then when you give A HINT of interest back, they start to pull away.
Definitely annoying, because you KNOW they want to be with you.
Only way I figured to fight that back is to look vulnerable.
Show a bit of a soft vulnerable side, one that they can relate to on a nurturing level, so it triggers their caring motherly side.
If you can get them on board with that, rest of seduction becomes a lot easier
i said
it is what ijjjji was saying the more intimidating type of dudes, ned to be more fake shy, vulnerable, cute, play dumb...just way to disarm and lower intimidation, strong presence factor, and disarm them a bit... ijjjji was big on that, he was supposedly really tall and muscular... @TomInHo has been playing with this lately he is jacked...
@POB said
Yeah, I remember @TomInHo having this issue in the past.
Bigger/good looking dudes need to tone it down for sure, otherwise they can easily overwhelm them.
Most new women I meet think I'm fucking 200 chicks at the same time lol....if I'm not carefull, they auto-reject before I can make my first move.
so this is an umbrella of betamaxing again the goal is to come down level up a bit so women can chill, relax not be overwhelmed.... Again this i saw first a guru named ijjjjji coming to this realization, but back then i did not understand due to he used to go into posting diahreah mental masturbation and silly graphs.... Looking back now i understood and brought i up to @TomInHo who is more on the jakck side, black intimidating side, so he played with it...:
Yeah I was having issues with that big time. But something that helped me with my attainability issues was working on my “Himbo” vibe
This is how chat gpt defined it
A himbo is a slang term for an attractive but not very intelligent man. It's a mashup of "him" and "bimbo," which is a term for an unintelligent woman who is only valued for her looks.
Here's a breakdown of the himbo concept:
So in practical terms things improved for me when I
- Attractive: Himbos are typically seen as physically pleasing men.
- Not very intelligent: This is a key characteristic. They might be naive, clueless, or slow on the uptake.
- Can be well-meaning: Himbos often aren't trying to be dumb, they just are. They might even come across as sweet or innocent.
- Added more humor (sexual and self deprecating)
- Toned down my intelligence or displays of excessive value
- Listened more than I talked
- Showed genuine interest
- Found ways of dealing with player objections… (Implying I’m more selective and don’t just fuck anyone unless we have chemistry)
- Used more cooperative leadership strategies rather that win/lose ones
- Didn’t act like a stereotypical Alpha male and came off more polite and humble
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