Calling girls on their bullshit-Dating in North America

[IrishConrad]

Lads,

Do you tend to call girl out when they are playing games. Especially the ones based on control and power in the ongoing stages of a relationship. My take is that is getting steadily worse in this country. Do you play it cool and cut her off like you have plenty of other women ready to date you, or is there a time and place to say...hey, I'm sick of your bullshit.


"They are conditioned her to think in terms of power, attention-seeking, jockeying for position, and proving they’re “better” than men. Hence the constant and nonstop games….they prefer being ensnared in power games over being content and sexually satisfied. Pathetic, but true."

 

[Franco]

IC,

Do you tend to call girl out when they are playing games. Especially the ones based on control and power in the ongoing stages of a relationship.

Nope. At least not before it becomes a sexual relationship and before she has a great deal of investment in you. Then, if she starts causing drama (because she isn't getting what she wants), you can experiment with calling her out on bullshit (if it is INDEED actually bullshit and not something you should be taking responsibility for).

It seems to me like you are referring to women who are playing games prior to sexual relations. When girls play these games, it's best to act as if you aren't even aware of the fact that she's doing it. Why? Because you are a busy, successful man with lots of other women around you who are distracting you. You don't have the time nor the interest to dissect a woman's actions when she's not around you, so you don't even realize she's playing games.

When a girl plays games with you, she's not looking to find out "how" you'll play the game. She's looking to see if you'll play the game at all. If you play her game, you lose -- it's her game. So if you decide not to even play her games and just non-chalantly move forward while maintaining your cool, she'll pick up on that. She'll realize she needs to make an interaction happen before you move on. I believe this concept doesn't begin to make sense until you've become more advanced in pick-up. If you've had a high caliber girl or two sleeping with you for awhile (or a high caliber girlfriend that you picked up using the knowledge given on this website), then you begin to pick up on the little things that women do and how their minds work.

For relationships, things differ a bit. But that's for another post... =)

- Franco

 

[IrishConrad]

IC,

Do you tend to call girl out when they are playing games. Especially the ones based on control and power in the ongoing stages of a relationship.

Nope. At least not before it becomes a sexual relationship and before she has a great deal of investment in you. Then, if she starts causing drama (because she isn't getting what she wants), you can experiment with calling her out on bullshit (if it is INDEED actually bullshit and not something you should be taking responsibility for).

It seems to me like you are referring to women who are playing games prior to sexual relations. When girls play these games, it's best to act as if you aren't even aware of the fact that she's doing it. Why? Because you are a busy, successful man with lots of other women around you who are distracting you. You don't have the time nor the interest to dissect a woman's actions when she's not around you, so you don't even realize she's playing games.

When a girl plays games with you, she's not looking to find out "how" you'll play the game. She's looking to see if you'll play the game at all. If you play her game, you lose -- it's her game. So if you decide not to even play her games and just non-chalantly move forward while maintaining your cool, she'll pick up on that. She'll realize she needs to make an interaction happen before you move on. I believe this concept doesn't begin to make sense until you've become more advanced in pick-up. If you've had a high caliber girl or two sleeping with you for awhile (or a high caliber girlfriend that you picked up using the knowledge given on this website), then you begin to pick up on the little things that women do and how their minds work.

For relationships, things differ a bit. But that's for another post... =)

- Franco

Well said. In this instance this is after it has become a sexual relationship, much flirting, dirty texts, and such. To me it just felt like a power struggle for her. Same story, the more I pulled away, the more likely I would be to get a late night pic of her. The more interest I showed, the less she seemed to want to make plans to get together.

She said she sort of started seeing someone else so we've got to stop what we are doing. That was three weeks ago, and I left it at that. She has not gotten a word from me since.

I have a feeling she is going to contact me again but I don't know if I should go no response, or call her out on her bullshit behavior. Because we all not...aint nobody got time for that.

 

[Estate]

IC,

Do you tend to call girl out when they are playing games. Especially the ones based on control and power in the ongoing stages of a relationship.

Nope. At least not before it becomes a sexual relationship and before she has a great deal of investment in you. Then, if she starts causing drama (because she isn't getting what she wants), you can experiment with calling her out on bullshit (if it is INDEED actually bullshit and not something you should be taking responsibility for).

It seems to me like you are referring to women who are playing games prior to sexual relations. When girls play these games, it's best to act as if you aren't even aware of the fact that she's doing it. Why? Because you are a busy, successful man with lots of other women around you who are distracting you. You don't have the time nor the interest to dissect a woman's actions when she's not around you, so you don't even realize she's playing games.

When a girl plays games with you, she's not looking to find out "how" you'll play the game. She's looking to see if you'll play the game at all. If you play her game, you lose -- it's her game. So if you decide not to even play her games and just non-chalantly move forward while maintaining your cool, she'll pick up on that. She'll realize she needs to make an interaction happen before you move on. I believe this concept doesn't begin to make sense until you've become more advanced in pick-up. If you've had a high caliber girl or two sleeping with you for awhile (or a high caliber girlfriend that you picked up using the knowledge given on this website), then you begin to pick up on the little things that women do and how their minds work.

For relationships, things differ a bit. But that's for another post... =)

- Franco

Well said. In this instance this is after it has become a sexual relationship, much flirting, dirty texts, and such. To me it just felt like a power struggle for her. Same story, the more I pulled away, the more likely I would be to get a late night pic of her. The more interest I showed, the less she seemed to want to make plans to get together.

She said she sort of started seeing someone else so we've got to stop what we are doing. That was three weeks ago, and I left it at that. She has not gotten a word from me since.

I have a feeling she is going to contact me again but I don't know if I should go no response, or call her out on her bullshit behavior. Because we all not...aint nobody got time for that.

I feel like calling her out on it just shows you are reacting negatively.
Guys do it all the time, they build up things in their head and then want to let the girl know who's the boss.

In this case it sounds like you'd have way more power if you just walk. If and when she comes back, she's wondering why you're not phased... then keep ignoring her and bang other girls. If she's truely giving you BS and fucking other guys to get at you, I wouldn't want to put it inside her again.