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Lucky

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Introduction
Was hanging around the campus library before a sports thing, typically using the time for study but i get bored super easily (This will be worked on...) hence this report was wandering around when i saw some giant chess board, and 2 girls and a guy standing playing, I figure what the hell maybe their hot or maybe they'll be the next distraction in my life/ break from my course work...

A quick note- This report i wrote ages ago, was looking at it from more of an SMMA focus hence structure and limited info, despite me saying the whole tech focus thing in diary


Late Day Game: Local Campus Library, not really at a peak time maybe 4pm?

Blue is me
Red is the gal
Green is the friend

My outfit (Casual)
Red flannel Shirt, White V Neck, Ripped black jeans, Silver Eagle Necklace, Red and Black Sneakers (they don't look half bad + need movement)

Acronym Guide

CF= Chase Frame SF- Social Frame ES- Emotional Stimulation SA- Sexual Arousal SECT- Guns Sexual State/ Fundamentals Acronym (View his articles) S-Talk- Sex talk/ Prizing/Gambits DD-Deep Dive



HB Jihad

Situational open with the chess board...
"i bet on black!"
"wait a second I know u... the fuck"
"Oh hey!"

leading that into talking with a three set (FMF) using the other girl I kinda knew (other weak sexualised convo experimentation) to introduce me to the group after shaking the other guy's hand i switched on to the HB who i deemed a mark

I was genuinely curious where she was from so... i asked then lead it into the countries guessing game to get the hook (immersion)

Used the stretching the intro tech (pretty much a super long handclasp cred to 60 YOC) to establish some tension and make sure to get incidental touch on tits (gets dropped once I mini isolate) (testing new things...)
ended up shaking her hand until we left the library
(i kinda pointed out we were going to do this for ages turned it into a game)

then i flowed into SF type stuff with DD, And a spin on the revamped golden question, and some rapport joke on being asian (bet on it being about strict parents") etc you do x course cool
talk about anime and course work (fluff)
asks where i live etc after i ask similar questions (logistical questions)
reach the end of SF when she's asking questions

follow it up with ES
"are you a serial killer...?" (relates to her course) (wanted a reaction)
then lead the into drugs somehow play-frame with role play with her as a dealer, try and set a few us vs the world frames with parents and us getting drugs and her giving me drugs... for free

i manage to somewhat lock us in by sitting us down on the nearby seat
but cant isolate, I didnt think i could do much in the situation and some more people come around to watch this chess game who are curious one knows me and says a quick hi and inquires to what I'm doing with this chick (the handshake)
"talking." with a smirk
switch focus back (think she broke circle first)

and I manage to sexualise the convo when she asks about my work
jokingly withhold information and build tension saying

"everyone wouldn't be able to handle it..."
"what tell me..."
"im retired"
"retired in what?"
"i was a professional dancer..." (credit to @Warped mindless)

her mind instantly jumps to stripper (jackpot!) and see her expression change

"yeah but like i said i retired..."
"why?"
"well i was tired to just being admired and appreciated for my body like I wanna be seen as more, than just a guy with a big dick who can dance... you get that?"
"yeah!"
"like admittedly i don't have the body anymore no six pack or something but im getting back there"
"its okay..."
"but like most people don't get...

SA (Sexual Arousal)
and i lead into sex talk (how Trust and Comfort is important, how the mind handles orgasms, how i take pleasure from seeing the satisfaction of my partner instead of just sticking my dick in, voyerism mixed) (also talked about ONS during some point, have left it out because i dont remember much) (Sexual Prizing)

What i vaguely remember i said ages ago...
"... whats important with a sexual interaction, like everyone assumes it's just how you fuck... all about technique and shit but like it's so much more do you think you know what the most important thing is to sex?"
"yeah..."
"its trust and comfort..."
"yes!"

i may have gone a bit more into that gambit but likely melded it into '

"because you've got 8 orgasms... and one is the mind, this is why you have things like wet dreams and why foreplay is so important, its all about anticipation of the moment... and you want to be able to fully RELEASE yourself in the moment with someone you trust and feel comfortable with because if its lacking your mind is just going to be distracted..."

"yes..." (is pretty much fully hooked on every word i say, i understand the power this tech holds now, also it's fun and interesting)

"like of course technique is important but people tend to over focus on it... because I don't just want sex"

"what?"

"I want... good sex"

"and what's good sex?"

"it means not things like where the guy fucks you like a fish (remember something about fish, probs picked it up from a GC podcast) and falls over after a minute or where a girl just doesn't put in the effort.. for me it's where i get pleasure is from seeing how much pleasure i can create in my partner, seeing if i can run her through all 8 (orgasms) and being present in that moment which is what does it"

Vaguely remember her being pretty mindblown after I melded all the gambits together and just started talking about everything that came to mind (can't remember voyerism but i wrote it at the time, maybe will edit if i can remember it)

she also plays into my play frame and jokes she's a stripper and later a porn star (nothing like compliance with frames)

i use my innocence statement

"and you looked so innocent"
"you thought i was?"
" nah the girls who look the most innocent are always the least"
"yeah..."
"my ex used to have people fooled that way..."

whist also chase framing like crazy don't remember the exact dialogue but shit like
u just wanna see me naked
u just want me to yourself
u just want me for my body
me teaching her to be a porn star/ stripper
how we can make a porno for her group chat
and post it (after she got interrupted by something for a group assignment) (she was somewhat excited jokingly)

During some point I qualified her on..
"I just love how your so open minded with your sexuality and everything" (was genuinely like damn this shit is awesome at the time)
"yeah! don't you talk about this often?"
"occasionally..."

somehow gets to her mentioning kissing her friend who i introduced me to them
she turns red and get back to playing the chess game, whist also complaining how i was meant to be helping her and HB to win the chess game
yeah... totally

then the topic switches somehow
and her sister calls which breaks a lot of the immersion she has to go either with her friends or an uber
her friend offers but she refuses saying she'll catch an uber

start to walk out of the library she finally stops shaking my hand we did this for like the entirety of the conversation

After the library

somehow continue to talk on strippers, pornstars and drugs subtopic while somewhat keeping her isolated she does point out how were a small distance from her friends
think break immersion partially when i miss an obvious sexual innuendo (something about going down on poles...)
and eventually we close the gap when one of them makes a joke...
am like fuck so much for the whole isolation thing

then the two friends get in the car i talk to em all as a group for a bit then switch back to HB and we keep on the subtopic, somehow fucking her on the car in front of her friends as they leave is brought up (voyerism)

(think I fucked up here and a bit earlier, first rule of sex talk is not to bring up you fucking the girl..."

soon as that statement is brought up am thinking how the fuck to escalate in a car parking lot nearing night when people are leaving

i continue to push forward.
she mentioned the dancers too too and i use that to CF saying she just wants to see me as one and i mention stripping

the voyerism gets brought up and gets countered saying her friends are gone and banging on the car is no longer an option
"the seduction gods have a cruel sense of humour is what is running though my head."



she tries to frame her stripping and fucking as a cash deal and I'm like fuck that shit I'm not paying
eventually somehow manage to reframe it into her paying to see me in too too and prices over that playing with the ex dancer frame

asks what I've got on later (Escalation Window)
I bring up that I've got a sports thing soonish

try and get compliance by getting her to dance around a lightpost pole and get denied (dumb move but maybe i was testing compliance for a pull somewhere isolated?)

Uber arrives brain is like fuck no SNL possible, close now

I go for insta (then my brain is like midway wait thats retarded) and i needed to be quicker so i readjust mid sentence and say
I'll just give u my number then i speed type in and call myself and bid her farewell then I walk back towards the campus.

End Report.


Personal Conclusions
So yeah...
think i fucked up closing in general, maybe i should have done something more ballsy towards the end (create an it's on moment or like somehow physically escalated) Isolation wasn't really an option by i moved her to a nearby chair like 2 steps away from the chess board (mini isolation?)

SECT was on point and was definitely enhanced by Sex Talk, didn't realise how much it talked yourself into that state as well, perfect for containment purposes whilst simultaneously motivating yourself to finish the job

Also took a big risk using S-Talk in a campus library with people around with no real isolation, seems like a recipe for ASD to kick in from my memory on S-talk, need to review this, also probs should have mixed in fractionation with something else, feel like may have overinflated things S-Talk not bad for testing but in general for the future need to watch myself...

Am eager to hear peoples thoughts on this and the other upcoming report, if it's required...

Both reports deal with more verbal encounters, pretty sure I know what went wrong here but am always curious if I missed anything.

Cheers for reading
 
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1. Has she responded to any messages

2. When she was asking for your plans did her plans seem to have disappeared/was she urgent about her later plans

3.
the voyerism gets brought up and gets countered saying her friends are gone and banging on the car is no longer an option
"the seduction gods have a cruel sense of humour is what is running though my head."

she tries to frame her stripping and fucking as a cash deal and I'm like fuck that shit I'm not paying
eventually somehow manage to reframe it into her paying to see me in too too and prices over that playing with the ex dancer frame

this seemed like a window

imo less talking and game more nonverbal moves, compliance, and tension holds would have made her crack

She has sorta gotten into a bratty vibe I'd imagine. Me personally I let her overinvest in this mode. She's being a little girl and as I ramp down, but up the tension she'll become pudding.

I smile and smirk physically or nonverbally make her crack. Then with the window and tension she's waiting for you to make it happen

some gamers have this so mastered it provokes her to move things forward, but principally she's waiting for you. This is true even before you approach.

A man who is truly developing these skills is exactly who a woman is waiting for. May not bed her in particular, but the next girls probability just went up the more feedback you recieve from your social and seductive journey

Good things

A. She's thinking about sex

B. Seems to be immersed

C. there's more good stuff, but I'm moving on

Touchy things

  • I haven't seen discretion frames...you know her and this is SC. Top of your list.

  • Non verbal vibe is unclear besides prolonged hand hold. Could you have closed proximity, held eye contact, touched her accessories

  • Seem to (similar to me) get lost in the sauce and enjoyment of a good set. ABC is true for numbers, but you must consider its baser meaning. Me personally I hate the term "number close" or any of its cousins. It's not a close. You must consider your target and adjust your stages accordingly

  • Ask what does she need atm, have I achieved the state or frame to the best of my abilities to get to the next point, where can I lay her and how much time do I have to get her there. Be vigilant as it's easy to lose focus. But if she is truly great and an enjoyable person your best chances of keeping her around are PIV. These questions get you there.
 
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Lucky

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1. Has she responded to any messages

2. When she was asking for your plans did her plans seem to have disappeared/was she urgent about her later plans

3.


this seemed like a window

imo less talking and game more nonverbal moves, compliance, and tension holds would have made her crack

She has sorta gotten into a bratty vibe I'd imagine. Me personally I let her overinvest in this mode. She's being a little girl and as I ramp down, but up the tension she'll become pudding.

I smile and smirk physically or nonverbally make her crack. Then with the window and tension she's waiting for you to make it happen

some gamers have this so mastered it provokes her to move things forward, but principally she's waiting for you. This is true even before you approach.

A man who is truly developing these skills is exactly who a woman is waiting for. May not bed her in particular, but the next girls probability just went up the more feedback you recieve from your social and seductive journey

Good things

A. She's thinking about sex

B. Seems to be immersed

C. there's more good stuff, but I'm moving on

Touchy things

  • I haven't seen discretion frames...you know her and this is SC. Top of your list.

  • Non verbal vibe is unclear besides prolonged hand hold. Could you have closed proximity, held eye contact, touched her accessories

  • Seem to (similar to me) get lost in the sauce and enjoyment of a good set. ABC is true for numbers, but you must consider its baser meaning. Me personally I hate the term "number close" or any of its cousins. It's not a close. You must consider your target and adjust your stages accordingly

  • Ask what does she need atm, have I achieved the state or frame to the best of my abilities to get to the next point, where can I lay her and how much time do I have to get her there. Be vigilant as it's easy to lose focus. But if she is truly great and an enjoyable person your best chances of keeping her around are PIV. These questions get you there.

1. She did respond but this from a while ago (posted more as a progress report) , was a solid lead, but I dropped the ball here + phone broke while I was texting (spam called my wing like 9 times...)
but thats a partial excuse I could have been more persistent and used it for than just text experimentation...
can shoot you the texts in the PM thing if your interested dude

2
not too sure, was thinking at the time I could somehow escalate in public and get her to miss her uber or something, reckon I could have pulled it off if I was gutsy and did something like a kiss to spike arousal after closing some proximity

3. yeah was an escalation window in hindsight, more non verbal actions like closing more proximity and action probably would have been a happier ending for both of us...
had time before the game too...


Discretion Frames
yeah may have been lacking here

have a vague memory of briefly talking about casual sex (probs a non judgemental frame)

need to review the second generation verbals and verbalise it all...
(have been covering some of this stuff unconsciously in current interactions but that's rolling the dice...)

Non Verbals
EC is usually on point it's more the containment side (but was supercharged via sex talk)
otherwise it could use some sharpening in general


Losing myself in the moment + ABC + staying focused
for sure, I enjoy the set and how my words can invoke things strongly... with girls I'm interested in
(this will also be seen in future reports)


But your on point with number closing,
makes things sooo much harder
getting laid is the win condition and being what keeps her around casually or otherwise
Need to play the game to it's end.


Cheers for the feedback dude, your a constant source of support :)


PS- may need editing, formatting on phone and is late here...
 
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