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Christiano Vegas

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03.01

First day back at daygame after a christmas break and turned the page on a long term oneities which went to nowhere. My head is clear and looking forward to a inspirational and fun year 2017.
It went not great at all. All the old weasels were back and I walked around town for about 1,5h. But I've been there plenty of times before. A year ago it took me 3 days to approach again. So there is a improvement. I do have a process to go back after a break:

1. walking around and just enjoying it to be out (taking the chimp by your hand)
2. Looking at the girls and notice how my brain reacts (a lot of excuses there, too strong at the moment)
3. After a while another voice would say: "C'mon just f%cking do it"
4. This would go for a while until I get slightly pissed of, but accept my current state
5. I actually would walk in the direction of the girl, but too many excuses would stop me
6. I would call it a day and tell myself what a pussy we are (I used to be very pissed of and angry, now I don't, just a bit dissapointed
7. And usually at the last girl I approach.

Same on this day. After a while I had enough and I went home. And there I spotted a really cute girl. The stop was a bit half hearted, but I opened. Usually I do direct, so I complimented her on her style. I stacked immediately and said that she was Russian. She was in hurry, but she was intrigued by my assumption. She said she's from St. Petersburg. It was a very quick chat, I could not get her attention for too long.
Still, felt good that I approached again. Approach anxiety and spotlight effect are always a huge challenge for me.
 

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04.01

Set goal for today was 5 approaches. It started like yesterday, walked a lot. Dresden in January is cold and sparse. After 45 min I went for a coffee to go and had a little banter with the barista. That's all it needed. 2 minutes I approached the first girl

1.
This girl looked at longer than usual, I kept eye contact and smiled. Immediately I approached her. She was surprised that I went for it. My opener could be better, I went straight to assumption rather than grounding my opener. Shortly after 2 guys were standing next to her. Had a quick look, no threat. So I ask them if any of theme were her boyfriend. They shaked their head, so I turned my attention back to her. I asked her name, but she already turned the opposite direction and left. No idea if she felt uncomfortable with the 2 guys. Who knows, I was quit happy with it. Never had the situation before, so was ok

2.
Hit and run approach. She liked it

3.
Longest approach of the day. Spotted her on the street and front stopped her. Loved her hair, so I used it as my opener (that's what I usually do, something on her which caught my attention. It's very authentic).
Me: "Hi, really quick, I just saw walking past and I just have to say I love your hair"
Her: "Huh? Really?"
Me: "Yeah, looks so curly and thick"
Her: "So you run after me just to say that?"
Me: "Well, I might never see you again. What you up to?"
She was right into. Hooked a minute in. Asked me a lot of question, definitely attraction there.
Can't really remember word for word how the interaction was. Going to get headphones with a microphone soon. The general vibe was good. But my old problem came to light again. I talked too much about myself and too quickly. Usually I'm a great listener, but at approaching I do the most talking. Still not confident enough to introduce more silence or pauses before speaking.
She also said that she had nothing planned and just having a stroll. So in my mind I was thinking instant date. But I just kept talking until I run out of things to say. It went a bit awkward. The approach itself is the hardest bit for me. I need to stick to 3 minutes, ask for the number on a high and arrange a date for later. So I just talked and crushed it. Another thing I was pissed of was that I was not asking for the number, I believe it's a flake paranoia. I could see it wasn't perfect, so I didn't bother to close, because it's almost always a flake. But who knows, maybe she found it cute, maybe she's horny? No way to find out. ABC- always be closing! Need to tattoo it somewhere...
So until around 3 minutes it was good, so need to concentrate on that, make it tight and get her out. Date situations are my stronger trait.

4.
Blow out- said thank you and walked straight past me

5.
Another russian girl in the mall. Just strolled around, perfect. Went next to her and said: "Hi, I have to say I just love your style. I just thought to myself, this girl can't be german." I had to say it twice, she did not understand german. Felt far better to approach and speak in english anyway (I live in Newcastle and just visiting friends and family in Dresden).
She was very hor, typical russian but very friendly. Teased her about being typical russian and get drunk and wild at night. I could see there wasn't a lot of attraction from her. It was already friendly and chatty (another sticking point, need more sexual aggression). Actually a lot of material was from Nick Krauser who approaches a lot of russians and always says the same, so it just sticks with you.
She is a teacher in Moscow and is visiting a few cities in Europe. She was impressed that I knew a few russian authors, but as to say more friendly. After 5 minutes I said that I like to invite her out. She said that isn't a good idea. She's with a friend and a lot to do. In hindsight I should have persist (bloody hell, another point) At least 2 more attempts. Treat it like a test basically.

Recap:
Well, goal accomplished, did my 5 approaches and it feels great and liberating. There is definitely a lot of work to do. It's like going back in the gym or to a sport after a break. All a bit rusty, but I can see where I need to focus on. My first 3 minutes are good and solid. So I concentrate on that, intrigue the girls and get them out. At the moment priority is to get momentum and more dates. There is alot of sticking points, but they will get better with practice. Cold approach at the moment is to screen and number collecting for now
 

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05.01

3rd day in a row going out and meet girls. It's freezing here now with a lot of snow. I went out a bit earlier about 3.30, very motivated. Still not great volume wise but a fair bit of girls were about. Now this day would turn out as one of the worst. So let's write this quickly and move on to tomorrow...

The aim was it to be a bit more smoother, calm and introduce more silence. All good prepared, my fundamentals are improving, my walk and posture are quite good. But still problems to get to my first approach. Almost an hour again before I actually approached. It took me 3 hours to do 5 approaches, just not efficient. You see a girl and approach, easy as that. Saying that, I definitely should start to do warm up approaches again until I reach a macro momentum.
There is not much positive from the approaches itself. Maybe I'm critical, but with no mentor and no wing at the moment it's the time to give myself some tough love.
Positive was that I did my 5 approaches again. Also good is that I know how it should be. I do have a plan before I go out and things I want to practice on. Why does it not come across like that. When in my head I'm thinking of James Bond, why do I act as Jim Carrey? Frustrating that

1.
After 1 hour I finaly got my first approach. Girl with a cute smile, so this was what I opened her with. My cool, smooth James Bond idea went down south already. Was very high energy. Previous to her I tried to open girls but bailed, so all of my energy went to her. She smiled, but I just stacked weakly. No bite, something which will be the theme of today, What I don't understand. I was pretty horny before I left the house. I just don't go for this things, I'm committed but no conviction. That's a waste of time. Yes girls are rare and even those will give you a few tests.

2.
This one was awful. Another young girl. Complimented the style of her.
Me: "Hey, I really like your style"
Her: "Oh, really? Thanks" (Was a bit confused about that)
Me: "Yeah, I like the colour, looks good on you" (I literally could hear myself saying WTF)
Her: "You just came up to me and saying I have a good style?" (Puzzled look on her face)
Me: "Yeah, What's your name?" (I think I looked serious and kind of creepy, just got weird)
She said her name and I tried to build rapport. It was just fucking weird, couldn't believe how and what I said. Was a total train wreck. She excused herself shortly after..

3.
Well, at least I don't give a fuck anymore. Next one was a tall blonde one. Usual opener that she looked nice, asked what she's up to in this cold weather. She did smile and said shopping. I did not go into that conversation thread, no I asked another question, if she's from here? And after she answered that I... talked... about ...myself. Nothing what I intended to do I actually did. It's like I slightly panic every time and just say things for the sake of it. Verbal diarrhea

4.
Now that one could been the best of them, but I did not improve. Cute Moroccan girl, approached her as usual and said that she looked very Persian. She enjoyed it and smiled. Bit than I just grilled her with boring Interview questions. Not a single time I fleshed out some of the things she said. Was pretty bad, it feels like I just start all over again.

5.
Last one and shortest. At least the opening was good: dynamic front stop, loud voice, good smile. Said she has to catch her bus.And there was another major point. No persistence. No trying to hold her for another 30 seconds, just not letting her go basically. I just watched her go by.

Not happy at all with myself.

Recap:
3 solid minutes is all I need for now. But even the most simple things seem to work. Every approach showed a lot of flaws. Just basic stuff, like assumptions rather than questions. Less energy, be smoother, put the focus on her, be persistent etc.
Not a great day, on the other side I can learn from it.
First thing it to introduce warm up approaches again to get going quicker. Next is the transmission from opener to stack.
Oh well, still a lot of puzzle pieces .
 

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06.01

Last day approaching until I go back to England. The temperatures dropped down another couple of degrees. It was about -9 degrees. Again not many people around, most girls got their scarfs so tight around their faces, that you just seen their eyes. Great conditions for approaching...
It took me another good 45 minutes to do my first approach again (used to be good in jumping in at the first opportunity)

1. Seen this girl, tried to front stop her, but she kept walking... Maybe a bit to weak from me.

2. This was one of the cutest girls I've seen all week. I immediately turned my direction and followed her. She had a very fast walk, looked like in a hurry. Thought I lost her in the crowd, but she went in a shop. Went in and walked directly to her
Me: "Hey, I just saw you walking in here and I have to say you have a striking sense of style ( she really did, loved it)
Her: (slightly annoyed) "Thanks, but I can't be bothered with that today. Had a long day and just want to relax."
Me: "Well, it's Friday, weekend."
She did not even look at me and just ignored me. Said bye and left.
When you not feel great and get one of those, that does sting a bit.
Walked a bit aimlessly around until I spotted a young girl.

3. Can't really remember what I said. She was pretty shy, so was more or less a hit and run approach.

After that I just wanted to call it a day. I was frozen, felt not great and not many people around. So went to the tram and wanted to go home. After 2 stops I reconsidered and went back on the streets. Just one more approach.

4. Blonde girl waiting outside a bank, clearly waiting for someone.
Me: "Hey, I know you waiting for someone, but just have to tell you that you look really cute. Just have to say Hi"
Her: "Uhh, thanks, but just waiting for my boyfriend" (Of course!!)
Me: "Yeah, not surprised" (Didn't want to stay, had clearly enough)

A day you can absolute forget. Can't believe I'm still not progressing. On that day, I was not in great shape, but I should push it by now. I really can't figure that out. Right now, it's with my head through a brick wall. I do try different techniques, but I think it's my vibe.
Well, back to Newcastle next week.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

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14.01

Back in Newcastle UK. I don't really get going. Still very much full of AA, could have approached on a lot of occasions. But head always full of excuses.

- don't feel like it
- too tired
- not the right cloth (really?)
- need a haircut
- too many people
- blah, blah

Anyway, back with Matty, after the Xmas break. Actually, was in high spirit, because of the lay I had the week before.
(Was during a party, not that much seduction skills required. I just moved quickly and escalated as soon as I've got enough compliance.)
In this journal I want to concentrate on my daygame.

Overall it was a mixed day. It seems that my approaches are the same kind than the year before. Just some small progress I can see. I'm probably too harsh on myself again. All it's important that I take action.
But at the end of the session I cracked and went on a 20 minute rant. It sounded very much victim mentality, I let my insecure, inpatient chimp just release himself. Let it all out. Complain, whine, whatever. But don't stay there, make a plan to get out there again.
For the moment it needed to get out. It's important for me to be real. Your wing can become your best mate, because of all the things you share with him. Your success, your failure, your thoughts, your doubts, your insecurities. You share stuff, no one else would understand. He sees you doing stuff nobody would believe. If I'm not vulnerable to him, who else?

Let's examine this approaches:

1. Warm up in Debenhams. Just said thank you to my compliment.

2. Cute girl in a small accessories shop. She blushed after I open her, was clearly uncomfortable. (never knew what to do. She is not dismissive, so should I just keep going? But on the other side, don't want to bring too much attention on me)

3. Another shop approach. This time in a big Primark. Seen this cute blonde, she was looking at the shoe section, so used that for my opener. It was quit a good approach. My voice was low, relaxed body language, took up space. I smirked, rather than smiled.
But could see, she was a bit uneasy. Was more a polite chit chat, again (just can't make it sexual enough). She had to go to work, so I suggested to swap numbers. Gave me the boyfriend card and left.

4. Hot English girl on the street. She had 2 phones in her hand, so teased her to have 2 different boyfriends. Good reaction, was very much into her. But did talk too soon again about myself. In hindsight I missed a conversation window about her working in real estate.
Again no number, because of boyfriend. (I do know, I have to be more persistent. Trying a bit more. But at the moment it's not happening. Just don't feel that confident in persisting and getting compliance early on)

5. Chavi girl at the train station. You can spot them very quickly on their looks and verbal communication:
Me: "Hey, can I just say something a bit random?"
Her: "What?"
Me: "Never mind"

Matty went on a roll. Approached 6 girls and got 4 numbers. His girl selection is also better. He's got a better instinct for receptive girls. Obviously his game is also solid. He's got demons of other kinds. He does feel not worthy some of the time, which shows when he's going out by himself. He's approach anxiety goes up the roof. But when he got started, he's good.

After the 5. approach and nothing to show for I lost it a bit and went on a rant. Matty tried his best to help me. He pointed out, to change my fashion a bit. Just to change it up a bit. Don't really think that's the issue here but new clothes do have an positive effect.
So, still a lot to work on.
 

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18.01

Very productive day. Did 7 approaches in 1 1/2 hours. A lot of short interactions, not much flow. Again kind of too friendly and chit chatty, sometimes even awkward. I think I still expect too much of it. I treat it as a sport at times, beating records or a certain goal. Right now, it's more about momentum and having fun. Whatever happens, will happen anyway. Just showing up, put some effort in, but enjoy this whole process.
My wing is going strong at the moment. Strong opening, solid 3-4 minute conversation, powerful body language, strong numbers.
Me on the other side, I struggle with longer conversation. Normally no problem, but right now, I just don't persist and I probably come across tense. Like I put girls off, or it's just my thoughts and mindset.

1. First approach was a cute Iranian girl. At the beginning of a session I always feel energised. New day, new possibility's, what happened yesterday doesn't matter. It's today that does.
I probably came a bit strong, so much energy that I blasted at her. She was a bit shy, but had a nice little conversation. She's only here for a day and I had to go to work, so couldn't follow up

2. Girl at the traffic light. Standard opener (she did not really inspired me. Why did I approach her at the first time?)
She was nice and so was I. Went very quickly into interview mode. No sexual threat whatsoever.

3. Another Iranian, well half English. Weak front stop in the mall. She walked past me, but could get her attention and to stop. Said, she was too much in a hurry. Damn

4. Back on the street, girl past by. I hesitated, but Matty encouraged me to go. She went into a big clothing shop. I followed her. By the time I finally approached her, I followed her for 3 minutes. She looked a bit creeped out (or just confused) I went outside pretty quickly.

My self doubt started to come back. But got rid of it as much as I could. One lighten up face, something to work with.

5. Matty pointed a girl out. Was not really my type. He said to just do it, getting comfortable with longer conversation again. He;s got a point.
Approached her and teased her colourful pants. She laughed, actually was kind of cute. Conversation was a bit was flirtier then the previous ones. After 2 minutes I asked for the number. After a bit of hesitations she gave it to me. "I should not do that." she said. Sounds like she's got a boyfriend.
Update: She had one indeed. Only one message has been exchanged between us .

6. Blonde girl in a drugstore. I hesitated again, other women were next to her. Great exercise for exposing me to the spotlight effect. I called it out and said that this is random but had to meet her. She said thanks and have me the cold shoulder. I persisted a bit longer. Said that she's polish (which she was) She kept walking and looking at stuff while she was asking me where I'm from. Could be a shit test. No intention to play games, so I left

7. Last one and the best if them all. Was a social girl, she talked a lot. Just had to listen and dig deeper on some points. Missed to build enough attraction, went straight to rapport. She was more friendly and I was more best friend like. Nevertheless, just shows that with enough action and patience I will find someone which interest me and can have a longer conversation with. Got her number and was quit pleased with it.

All in all a good session. 7 approaches in 1 1/2 hours. Little self doubt, it is a grind but the fun returns. Just going out there, talking to girls I would never talk to if I live a regular life. The results will come, just not giving up
Yes, still a lot of sticking points, but as long as I approach and have a good vibe it;s only a question of time.
 
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