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Nicko

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Prologue. (. ignore it if u dont care)
Im technically 14 turning 15 in 2 months :)
In the previous post of mine i wrote on 'cold approaching older girls at 15' i would cold approach next week but i couldn't be fucked so i did it the day after so lets jump right into it ill most likely keep this as a journal format and keep replying here. I would usually leave girls that i didnt talk to in cold approach out of the journal unless i gained some form of experience or an emotional impact..
Advice would be greatly appreciated ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
Date 1. 11.20)

Venue context:im at chadstone i explored the venues and decided to start approaching the employees to get a feel for the cold approach for the first time , so i headed to Myer and david jones. Myer and David Jones set their employees at their little 'station' (more like a post) where they place clothes/shoes/accessories s and products in front to provide their services if they walk into their area or the do work on their laptop on a black pillar around torso to waist hight . Some were waiting outside to guide people through a waiting line(to limit the amount of people could enter due to Covid) First time writing a journal i apologise if its unimaginative and boring

Set 1:she had very eye cathing dyed blonde with dark roots about 4 inches at root of hair, light blue jeans, basic white tee, blue eyes, very simple fit and a hour glass body shape around 160cm and pretty cute even with a face mask(mandatory to wear face masks cuz covid) 23 years old.
[she was distracted by work on the lap top]
Approach(failed indirect game) : i pulled my ass together after i walked passed her a couple times out of nervousness even though she made it clear she wanted to be approached. I.e Nonverbally flirted with me( more than 2 glances, preening/touching hair, adjusting clothing and eye contact flirting )
Convo:told her to over for a sec(frame control), she was working on the laptop told me to wait(rejected frame) told her take her time(idk why i did that) i asked her what she was doing she said has "i have to do this real quick im done with my shift" ( my gut knew it had to be a invitation )
I Tried to build rapport by asking her to pick shoe for my aunty didn't get anywhere[shit got awkward fast lol when it didn't branch onto topics about her she was mostly on auto-pilot) . At the end i knew i had to bite the bullet but couldn't ask her number.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[i was a little annoyed of how i played that]
Thoughts: i should have went direct instead j played if too safe with only direct canned openers wasn't strong enough to knock her out of auto pilot. Attraction was there i guess intent wasn't clear enough.

Set 2: white, small Asian eyes(thought she was asian before i got a closer look) , dark brown hair slightly curly on the ends, short white tee with a ribbon formed from the sleeve of the tee both arms, dark navy tights.

Approach(indirect direct)
After approaching set 1 laughed it off and noticed set 2 walking by me and turned left into a station hovering around(possible approach invitation) after she noticed me. I walked to a station infront to confirm Approach invitation . I returned the eye contact after she stared into my soul, time to pull the trigger but i need to quickly use a situational opener...

Convo: Tokita! Was the clothing brand i saw and said approached her with it. I walked towards her and waved her to come over and she responded with a enthusiastic 'yes?' while head titling and squinting her eyes as if she was smiling(prob is) and asked her where it was. After she was done directing i stated my interest and intent('just messing with u, your cute, you single ?) she was flustered, looking up and saying`um` repetitively while lookin up as if she is thinking of something to say and said she was in a' rush' and left after a employee handed her bag(perfect timing for her) and flusteredly walked away as she looked back at me and i was too slow too react and didn't persist in getting her and lost her..

(-‸ლ) (face palm ln my part)

My thoughts: she was pretty interested but was too flustered and i came off too strong and she couldn't take the tention so she ran?? Man it kinda sucks knowing it was in hr hand and i dropped it, i hesitsted and couldn't open my mouth to come back while she looked back.
Set 3: this shorty was fine, probably that kind of girl that is inspired by Kpop Girls or Korean girl band girls she was that kind judging from appearances ;). Dyed dark in a mix of red or brown. Top was a navy suit(very feminine on the shoulder and get smaller down the waist you would ), bottom navy trousers. 175cm ish, pony tail and bangs in front

Approach: problem she was not receptive and she was sitting down, i walked past her twice but she was glued to her phone unfortunately(she could of met someone of her dreams smh ) i sat down and see if she would be receptive, noticed one glance( possibly interested) then a preen its time to shoot!..... But i felt the burden of the social pressure it hit me different...back of my head me to told me to pussy out and i hated it cuz i did listened to it after 3 minutes of awkwardness even with pre-slection from girls walking by she wasn't as receptive as she would i couldn't take it anymore i said fuck it to my self and said 'Hey.....' she didn't even notice i couldn't take the pressure after that I dipped the fuck out of there.
( ̄~ ̄;)
[i was really sweating my ass off on that]

My thoughts:I could of done it better and got her attention better( playfully poke her on the head) or smthing hell even ask her for direction then turn it into a direct or do it indirect.

Set 4: white brunette, white vintage tee, black jeans, brown eyes, about 170cm, nothing too special that caught me eye

Approach(indirect direct)
She was the girls i mention before that wait outside to make sure certain amount of people that can come in, by entering a line, i was third in line and noticed she was interested in me so i talked to her

Convo: it was a sneaker store called Hype( more variety of your basic Converses, Ultra boost, Vans, Adidas and ect.) i asked her what sneaker she would recommended and cold read her a bit asking so your that type of person wearing that shoe type stuff. She mentioned white sb blazers not bad choice from her tbh :). While building even more attraction along the way, I knew the line was gonna get big so i had to pull a close quick i ran indirect direct(pretty standard and this point) and she was laughing/giggling excitedly. She said `Sorryyyy i have a boyfirend,' well fuck, first time encountering this and i have read some articles about this common scenario and i cant remember what to do tho . I didn't really think and just said' well it doesn't look like ur the type of person to get a bf'(i loled after i realised what i said) she was laughing at what a asked 'what do you meannn' like a little high school girl after you gave a playfully sassy remark. I thought i couldn't progress any further even though attraction was through the roof so a bid my farewell and she apologized once again.

\_(ツ)_/¯[oh well]

My thoughts: [too bad i guess im gonna have to look into this scenario on the GC articles]

Set 5: short like 155cm, ironed brken hair all curly, a form of white tee where the neck to chest js in a v shape covering a bit of cleavage and some form of loose pattern(no fabric on her arm),for air on her shoulder to arm, black jeans, did her eyes with extended eyelashes.

Approach(direct) : saw her standing outside of a clothing store and the entrance was at least 4m tall and 3m wide(unless i suck at remembering stuff) talk about go big or go home at this point i was tired from walking all day. She had a ipad with a qr code stuck to it to scan to enter the premise. She preened, eye contact +pre selection

Convo: i told her i didn't need to sign in and i simply said ' i just came here to say ur cute, you single' she giggled and said 'i have a bf'
cj"ah shit here we go again " broke eye contact to do her job as there was people waiting and she returned eye contact to me and returned it back. I said something like 'well he doesn't have to know' and she hit me with 'thats/your a major red flag'. That was the end of the convo i don't think i can turn it around at my level with the social pressure was rising with more people lining up. So i bid her farewell and walked away.

ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ[how im a major redflag? I felt insulted lol]

My thoughts: "that /your a major red flag" i felt i may came off too strong or maybe it was a shit test? Im really reading on the it i probably expected her to comply to it and give me her number. It threw me for a loop but still here are the possbilities: shit test for dominannce/frame, her logical mind is working again from social pressure, reputation(her workers was watching i think) and the least likely auto rejection.

Set 6: she was white, 175 cm ish, black cute sweater with her it rolled up on her sleeve, and navy trousers with her mangers tag name on ber lol. Shes part european.

Approach: after being blown out by set 5 and hesitating with girls that walked past me with clear interest and not being able to pull the trigger i wanted to call it a day but hell i didn't want to give up just yet. I headed to David Jones and i was determined to pull one in to end the day . I lost my energy after walking around but saw her near me with a hit of subtle interest. I ignored her for a bit then decided to do it and see what happens while feeling it would be a pain in the ass but to my surprise....

Convo: i waved saying hey and she responded warm to me not as warm as set 2 but a good start. Used the same hook as the set 1 'Aunty needs a present' [i know its a canned opener but i couldn't think of anything] i use cold reading on different shoes [she was receptive] and how it reflected her personality and before the aunty hook get dry i instantly changed to direct[without asking if she was single this time] causing us. to naturally introduce to each other finding she was wearing her managers tag name(lol i got a chuckle out of it), teased her "ur naughty, if i was ur manager i would have fired you on the spot" she giggled and attraction spiked with squinting eyes/seductive eyes responding with a really warm "realllyyy" . I found out she actually likes this kind of job, talking to people/socializing, studying in uni about smthing(sorry i forgot) but she wants to be studying law and politics and the rest i forgot unfortunately. I needed to close while im on a high point. I asked when does her shift end to further deep five for a better mutal exchange in numbers it was in a hour or so and i just asked for her number but she said... She has a partner really apologetically i teased further ur saykng "ur not and angel are u" while softly poking her head and she 'is an angel' i didnt know what to do at this point and bid each other farewells

ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ[damn so close im not giving up]

My thoughts: she was a really cool girl and its was unfortunate that she had a partner and she was an "angel" and i couldn't close properly, could anything effected the close? Im 110 % in not potential bf territory or friendzone. What can i do to go past this blockage of 'i have a bf' while she is attracted to me?

Final thoughts: Goals: cold approach girls that are interested that walk past you, learn how to escalate even though when you get handed 'i have a bf', Learn to hook better with girls. Also should you bite the bullet on girls who are with their bf, i have received lots of interest but don't know if I should shoot it.

Well thats it for now ill be posting frequently i hope to see you guys (´・ω・`)

~happy huntting, Nicko
 

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Prologue. (. ignore it if u dont care)
Im technically 14 turning 15 in 2 months :)
In the previous post of mine i wrote on 'cold approaching older girls at 15' i would cold approach next week but i couldn't be fucked so i did it the day after so lets jump right into it ill most likely keep this as a journal format and keep replying here. I would usually leave girls that i didnt talk to in cold approach out of the journal unless i gained some form of experience or an emotional impact..
Advice would be greatly appreciated ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
Date 1. 11.20)

Venue context:im at chadstone i explored the venues and decided to start approaching the employees to get a feel for the cold approach for the first time , so i headed to Myer and david jones. Myer and David Jones set their employees at their little 'station' (more like a post) where they place clothes/shoes/accessories s and products in front to provide their services if they walk into their area or the do work on their laptop on a black pillar around torso to waist hight . Some were waiting outside to guide people through a waiting line(to limit the amount of people could enter due to Covid) First time writing a journal i apologise if its unimaginative and boring

Set 1:she had very eye cathing dyed blonde with dark roots about 4 inches at root of hair, light blue jeans, basic white tee, blue eyes, very simple fit and a hour glass body shape around 160cm and pretty cute even with a face mask(mandatory to wear face masks cuz covid) 23 years old.
[she was distracted by work on the lap top]
Approach(failed indirect game) : i pulled my ass together after i walked passed her a couple times out of nervousness even though she made it clear she wanted to be approached. I.e Nonverbally flirted with me( more than 2 glances, preening/touching hair, adjusting clothing and eye contact flirting )
Convo:told her to over for a sec(frame control), she was working on the laptop told me to wait(rejected frame) told her take her time(idk why i did that) i asked her what she was doing she said has "i have to do this real quick im done with my shift" ( my gut knew it had to be a invitation )
I Tried to build rapport by asking her to pick shoe for my aunty didn't get anywhere[shit got awkward fast lol when it didn't branch onto topics about her she was mostly on auto-pilot) . At the end i knew i had to bite the bullet but couldn't ask her number.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[i was a little annoyed of how i played that]
Thoughts: i should have went direct instead j played if too safe with only direct canned openers wasn't strong enough to knock her out of auto pilot. Attraction was there i guess intent wasn't clear enough.

Set 2: white, small Asian eyes(thought she was asian before i got a closer look) , dark brown hair slightly curly on the ends, short white tee with a ribbon formed from the sleeve of the tee both arms, dark navy tights.

Approach(indirect direct)
After approaching set 1 laughed it off and noticed set 2 walking by me and turned left into a station hovering around(possible approach invitation) after she noticed me. I walked to a station infront to confirm Approach invitation . I returned the eye contact after she stared into my soul, time to pull the trigger but i need to quickly use a situational opener...

Convo: Tokita! Was the clothing brand i saw and said approached her with it. I walked towards her and waved her to come over and she responded with a enthusiastic 'yes?' while head titling and squinting her eyes as if she was smiling(prob is) and asked her where it was. After she was done directing i stated my interest and intent('just messing with u, your cute, you single ?) she was flustered, looking up and saying`um` repetitively while lookin up as if she is thinking of something to say and said she was in a' rush' and left after a employee handed her bag(perfect timing for her) and flusteredly walked away as she looked back at me and i was too slow too react and didn't persist in getting her and lost her..

(-‸ლ) (face palm ln my part)

My thoughts: she was pretty interested but was too flustered and i came off too strong and she couldn't take the tention so she ran?? Man it kinda sucks knowing it was in hr hand and i dropped it, i hesitsted and couldn't open my mouth to come back while she looked back.
Set 3: this shorty was fine, probably that kind of girl that is inspired by Kpop Girls or Korean girl band girls she was that kind judging from appearances ;). Dyed dark in a mix of red or brown. Top was a navy suit(very feminine on the shoulder and get smaller down the waist you would ), bottom navy trousers. 175cm ish, pony tail and bangs in front

Approach: problem she was not receptive and she was sitting down, i walked past her twice but she was glued to her phone unfortunately(she could of met someone of her dreams smh ) i sat down and see if she would be receptive, noticed one glance( possibly interested) then a preen its time to shoot!..... But i felt the burden of the social pressure it hit me different...back of my head me to told me to pussy out and i hated it cuz i did listened to it after 3 minutes of awkwardness even with pre-slection from girls walking by she wasn't as receptive as she would i couldn't take it anymore i said fuck it to my self and said 'Hey.....' she didn't even notice i couldn't take the pressure after that I dipped the fuck out of there.
( ̄~ ̄;)
[i was really sweating my ass off on that]

My thoughts:I could of done it better and got her attention better( playfully poke her on the head) or smthing hell even ask her for direction then turn it into a direct or do it indirect.

Set 4: white brunette, white vintage tee, black jeans, brown eyes, about 170cm, nothing too special that caught me eye

Approach(indirect direct)
She was the girls i mention before that wait outside to make sure certain amount of people that can come in, by entering a line, i was third in line and noticed she was interested in me so i talked to her

Convo: it was a sneaker store called Hype( more variety of your basic Converses, Ultra boost, Vans, Adidas and ect.) i asked her what sneaker she would recommended and cold read her a bit asking so your that type of person wearing that shoe type stuff. She mentioned white sb blazers not bad choice from her tbh :). While building even more attraction along the way, I knew the line was gonna get big so i had to pull a close quick i ran indirect direct(pretty standard and this point) and she was laughing/giggling excitedly. She said `Sorryyyy i have a boyfirend,' well fuck, first time encountering this and i have read some articles about this common scenario and i cant remember what to do tho . I didn't really think and just said' well it doesn't look like ur the type of person to get a bf'(i loled after i realised what i said) she was laughing at what a asked 'what do you meannn' like a little high school girl after you gave a playfully sassy remark. I thought i couldn't progress any further even though attraction was through the roof so a bid my farewell and she apologized once again.

\_(ツ)_/¯[oh well]

My thoughts: [too bad i guess im gonna have to look into this scenario on the GC articles]

Set 5: short like 155cm, ironed brken hair all curly, a form of white tee where the neck to chest js in a v shape covering a bit of cleavage and some form of loose pattern(no fabric on her arm),for air on her shoulder to arm, black jeans, did her eyes with extended eyelashes.

Approach(direct) : saw her standing outside of a clothing store and the entrance was at least 4m tall and 3m wide(unless i suck at remembering stuff) talk about go big or go home at this point i was tired from walking all day. She had a ipad with a qr code stuck to it to scan to enter the premise. She preened, eye contact +pre selection

Convo: i told her i didn't need to sign in and i simply said ' i just came here to say ur cute, you single' she giggled and said 'i have a bf'
cj"ah shit here we go again " broke eye contact to do her job as there was people waiting and she returned eye contact to me and returned it back. I said something like 'well he doesn't have to know' and she hit me with 'thats/your a major red flag'. That was the end of the convo i don't think i can turn it around at my level with the social pressure was rising with more people lining up. So i bid her farewell and walked away.

ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ[how im a major redflag? I felt insulted lol]

My thoughts: "that /your a major red flag" i felt i may came off too strong or maybe it was a shit test? Im really reading on the it i probably expected her to comply to it and give me her number. It threw me for a loop but still here are the possbilities: shit test for dominannce/frame, her logical mind is working again from social pressure, reputation(her workers was watching i think) and the least likely auto rejection.

Set 6: she was white, 175 cm ish, black cute sweater with her it rolled up on her sleeve, and navy trousers with her mangers tag name on ber lol. Shes part european.

Approach: after being blown out by set 5 and hesitating with girls that walked past me with clear interest and not being able to pull the trigger i wanted to call it a day but hell i didn't want to give up just yet. I headed to David Jones and i was determined to pull one in to end the day . I lost my energy after walking around but saw her near me with a hit of subtle interest. I ignored her for a bit then decided to do it and see what happens while feeling it would be a pain in the ass but to my surprise....

Convo: i waved saying hey and she responded warm to me not as warm as set 2 but a good start. Used the same hook as the set 1 'Aunty needs a present' [i know its a canned opener but i couldn't think of anything] i use cold reading on different shoes [she was receptive] and how it reflected her personality and before the aunty hook get dry i instantly changed to direct[without asking if she was single this time] causing us. to naturally introduce to each other finding she was wearing her managers tag name(lol i got a chuckle out of it), teased her "ur naughty, if i was ur manager i would have fired you on the spot" she giggled and attraction spiked with squinting eyes/seductive eyes responding with a really warm "realllyyy" . I found out she actually likes this kind of job, talking to people/socializing, studying in uni about smthing(sorry i forgot) but she wants to be studying law and politics and the rest i forgot unfortunately. I needed to close while im on a high point. I asked when does her shift end to further deep five for a better mutal exchange in numbers it was in a hour or so and i just asked for her number but she said... She has a partner really apologetically i teased further ur saykng "ur not and angel are u" while softly poking her head and she 'is an angel' i didnt know what to do at this point and bid each other farewells

ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ[damn so close im not giving up]

My thoughts: she was a really cool girl and its was unfortunate that she had a partner and she was an "angel" and i couldn't close properly, could anything effected the close? Im 110 % in not potential bf territory or friendzone. What can i do to go past this blockage of 'i have a bf' while she is attracted to me?

Final thoughts: Goals: cold approach girls that are interested that walk past you, learn how to escalate even though when you get handed 'i have a bf', Learn to hook better with girls. Also should you bite the bullet on girls who are with their bf, i have received lots of interest but don't know if I should shoot it.

Well thats it for now ill be posting frequently i hope to see you guys (´・ω・`)

~happy huntting, Nicko
What I would give to be 14 with access to Girlschase and being aware of PUA and already approaching. Its great that you are so young, if I was 14 and had a chance to relive my teenage and early 20s, I would spend a lot of time on pickup and also getting in great shape. If you got these two down you can then work on getting your wealth handled.

Anyway as far as your FR, start a journal where you can post there regularly instead of posting separate field reports each time you go out.

Okay so you seem to be a little all over the place here. You are using direct, indirect, indirect-direct or your understanding of these things. Be careful of these labels. Having a direct, indirect, indirect-direct opener is different from direct or indirect Game. The former is only talking about how you open, the latter is the entire strategy itself. And I am not sure about your reading of IOIs. According to your report, it seems like a lot of girls are giving you IOIs and that too quite blatantly during the day, which leads me to believe that you are either extremely good looking and women just can't help looking at you or you are completely misreading them as IOIs. The responses you say you got, from the women who were apparently giving you IOIs after you approach them lead me to believe that they might not have been IOIs. So be careful with that especially since you seem to be approaching indoors. You don't want to do something brash and get in any kind of trouble. And you asking women to come over as an opener I don't think is optimal. You are asking for compliance without providing any value, so most women will not comply.

Also small chunk your learning process. Go out with a girl of practising one or a few things in each session. Don't just go out and see what happens, or go out and base your success on your results especially when you are starting off. (all these are mistakes I did when I started) Look at this as a skill set, break it down and work on opening first, having good eye-contact, getting rid of AA. Don't mix and mash all styles. Choose one school of seduction or one method whichever you relate to best at the moment and follow that at least for a while. Don't jump around too much. And if you are beginner, a routine stack helps quite a lot. Something that I shunned when I began but now I see its value. If you can automate your verbals your mind will be free to work on other things like eye-contact, tonality, body language etc. Try it out, develop a routine stack that fills in the first 3-5 minutes of the conversation and run it on 20 girls. If you have any questions, that I can help you with feel free to ask :)
 
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Nicko

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What I would give to be 14 with access to Girlschase and being aware of PUA and already approaching. Its great that you are so young, if I was 14 and had a chance to relive my teenage and early 20s, I would spend a lot of time on pickup and also getting in great shape. If you got these two down you can then work on getting your wealth handled.

Anyway as far as your FR, start a journal where you can post there regularly instead of posting separate field reports each time you go out.

Okay so you seem to be a little all over the place here. You are using direct, indirect, indirect-direct or your understanding of these things. Be careful of these labels. Having a direct, indirect, indirect-direct opener is different from direct or indirect Game. The former is only talking about how you open, the latter is the entire strategy itself. And I am not sure about your reading of IOIs. According to your report, it seems like a lot of girls are giving you IOIs and that too quite blatantly during the day, which leads me to believe that you are either extremely good looking and women just can't help looking at you or you are completely misreading them as IOIs. The responses you say you got, from the women who were apparently giving you IOIs after you approach them lead me to believe that they might not have been IOIs. So be careful with that especially since you seem to be approaching indoors. You don't want to do something brash and get in any kind of trouble. And you asking women to come over as an opener I don't think is optimal. You are asking for compliance without providing any value, so most women will not comply.

Also small chunk your learning process. Go out with a girl of practising one or a few things in each session. Don't just go out and see what happens, or go out and base your success on your results especially when you are starting off. (all these are mistakes I did when I started) Look at this as a skill set, break it down and work on opening first, having good eye-contact, getting rid of AA. Don't mix and mash all styles. Choose one school of seduction or one method whichever you relate to best at the moment and follow that at least for a while. Don't jump around too much. And if you are beginner, a routine stack helps quite a lot. Something that I shunned when I began but now I see its value. If you can automate your verbals your mind will be free to work on other things like eye-contact, tonality, body language etc. Try it out, develop a routine stack that fills in the first 3-5 minutes of the conversation and run it on 20 girls. If you have any questions, that I can help you with feel free to ask :)
Hi thanks for the great advices <( ̄︶ ̄)> definitely got direct, indirect direct, indirect confused. Ill start with indirect strategy as i like to do things more lowkey and indirect direct opening. As for IOIs im very sure they were real i have picked up that touching hair, sneaky glances. Hovering are all forms of non verbal attractions. They are a by product of good fundamentals i believe. I dont have attractive on the face(lol) im have a average asian guy face but a bit chubby on the cheeks and a weak jaw. I have tighten my fundamentals as a result. Im sure you yourself bave seen them but you didn't pay attention to it.

Ill definitely keep notes and try not to get ahead of my self and ill work on smaller skill sets(hook, compliance, escalation and transition) first then bigger skill sets.

Im currently lifting and a few ring calisthenics, but I'm staying away from deadlifts, any over head pressing, bend over Barbell row as i need to work on stabilizing muscles first. But anyway ill but take your advice to heart (´・ω・`)
 
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