Complete beginner. Asking for advice on how to approach a 2-set/group of 2 girls

[SometimesThinking]

Hi,
I am a recent university graduate, and during my time in uni I was able to date due to being in social circles and fraternity groups. Now that I've graduated, I felt pretty lost on how to go out there and approach someone out in the public and discovered the GC website last month. I tried yesterday to go out and approach, but the majority of the girls that I was into were with their friend (another girl). I'd appreciate advice on approaching a group of two, and more specifically how to open/what to say, because I'm unsure whether to be direct and tell her that she looks great or say something else. Examples of opening in these situations and follow up sentences would be really helpful too!

 

[csgreen100]

Still trying to figure this out myself. These are a bitch. It must get handled cuz girls ALWAYS travel in pairs.

 

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

So I’m going to share with you the line I learned from @Hector Papi Castillo:

Say this to the friend of the girl you want: “Hey, I was walking by and I noticed how beautiful your friend looks today, do you mind if I talk to her?”

This works because it disarms the friends automatic cockblock because you were polite enough to ask

Friends will still say no from time to time, but it is less likely than if you just isolated and went direct on the girl you like

I’ve gotten the number without this line before, but that was more in low key situations, do this line especially if the girls are in a hurry

and if you want to open indirect, then just start making conversation with them then reach hook point, pretty self explanatory

regardless of the open, you NEED to include the friend in the conversation, that’s a given

however you will find sometimes, you get a friend that is super chill and actually supports you trying to fuck, in those situations the friend usually gives you and girl space

Hope this helps,

Biggus

P.S. it sounds like you did well in college, so the main problem for you is probably just getting your confidence in cold approaching up, once that happens and you no longer have AA (because this question is largely rooted in approach anxiety, trust me, I had this very same anxiety about groups of girls when I started), you will breeze through it

 

[SometimesThinking]

So I’m going to share with you the line I learned from @Hector Papi Castillo:

Say this to the friend of the girl you want: “Hey, I was walking by and I noticed how beautiful your friend looks today, do you mind if I talk to her?”

This works because it disarms the friends automatic cockblock because you were polite enough to ask

Friends will still say no from time to time, but it is less likely than if you just isolated and went direct on the girl you like

I’ve gotten the number without this line before, but that was more in low key situations, do this line especially if the girls are in a hurry

and if you want to open indirect, then just start making conversation with them then reach hook point, pretty self explanatory

regardless of the open, you NEED to include the friend in the conversation, that’s a given

however you will find sometimes, you get a friend that is super chill and actually supports you trying to fuck, in those situations the friend usually gives you and girl space

Hope this helps,

Biggus

P.S. it sounds like you did well in college, so the main problem for you is probably just getting your confidence in cold approaching up, once that happens and you no longer have AA (because this question is largely rooted in approach anxiety, trust me, I had this very same anxiety about groups of girls when I started), you will breeze through it

Thanks for the tips! I'll give it a try when I next go out to do approaches. It's a topic where I don't see many articles on and would love for many people to give their views.

 

[Conquistador]

It must get handled cuz girls ALWAYS travel in pairs.

…ever wonder why?

Anyway, in response to OP:

Assuming this is DG, what I do is to not go direct and just treat it as a regular social interaction until I’ve broken the ice.

Opening is the easiest part of 2-sets honestly. Hooking and especially closing is less simple.

I do a lot of transit 2-sets as there’s a social frame (at least in my city).

This might take experience to internalize, but opening should rarely be a bottleneck in the process (unless she’s going somewhere in a hurry or otherwise not as approachable). Girls care much more about intent and vibe than what you say for your opener. And frankly, they want to be opened.

Also, if you have any mindset of “me and them” deprogram immediately. Rapport and comfort are essential, nowhere more than with a 2-set.

 

[SometimesThinking]

…ever wonder why?

Anyway, in response to OP:

Assuming this is DG, what I do is to not go direct and just treat it as a regular social interaction until I’ve broken the ice.

Opening is the easiest part of 2-sets honestly. Hooking and especially closing is less simple.

I do a lot of transit 2-sets as there’s a social frame (at least in my city).

This might take experience to internalize, but opening should rarely be a bottleneck in the process (unless she’s going somewhere in a hurry or otherwise not as approachable). Girls care much more about intent and vibe than what you say for your opener. And frankly, they want to be opened.

Also, if you have any mindset of “me and them” deprogram immediately. Rapport and comfort are essential, nowhere more than with a 2-set.

Thanks for the thoughts on this. I've been trying openers such as “Anyone ever tell you two you share twin energy?” and then just make a comment about how they are similar to each other which they usually agree to. From there I try to dive a bit deeper and find out where they are from. If you have any openers that you use, it'd be great to hear them. I still do find it tough to come up with an indirect way of opening and when I can't think of an idea, I'll end up not approaching at all.

I agree with you that hooking and closing is harder, especially when it's trying to be done in a way that communicates my interest in the one girl out of the pair in particular. I've tried asking for both of their numbers, but I feel like it makes me look like I just want to be friends with them and doesn't lead to anything after. If you have any advice regarding the hooking and closing part, that'd be appreciated too.

 

[fog]

here's a verbal process i use to hook 2 sets:

STEP 1: PREOPENER

start with a preopener. when walking up to a group of girls, you can either:

A) say it in their general direction and whichever one bites, make your target
B) choose a target up front.

a good pre-opener is intrigue bait, it's meant to get them curious about what you have to say next. example:

YOU: hey. i noticed something interesting about you

STEP 2: OPENER

now once you've got their attention and determined your target, it's time to move to the opener.

Generic cold reads are your good friend here, but feel free to personalize yours. example:

YOU: you seem really confident

YOU: you seem really at home in yourself

It's rarely get rejected off of these, who is gonna deny being confident? LOL

STEP 3: POST OPENER PERSPECTIVE

Once you've opened, you can provide a short but sweet follow up perspective on your cold read.

This gets them listening to you.

A good perspective to use [and one i use often!] is an easily modifiable one from the The Magnetic Man series, seen below:

YOU: Has anyone ever told you that you seem very at home in yourself?
HER: Thank you! I try to be a calm person.
YOU: That’s great. Now with me, it’s like some days we feel this more than others.
HER: Yeah, that’s true.
YOU: But on the days when I really feel at home in myself, I’m also present in the moment.
HER: Right, it’s the same for me! I love being present.
YOU: You know, something else interesting about being present is that it brings an elevated awareness of what makes you feel good. This makes it easier to feel at home in yourself.
HER: That’s very insightful.

STEP 4: HOOK

You want to continue to build compliance with them till they're hooked and you're immersed in their group.

The post opener perspective may be enough, but if not, there's a couple things you can do to form a [stronger] hook

A) Gambit - Social Connection

Ask into their relationship. Contrast stimulating descriptions of connection in social contexts.

YOU: hey how do you two know each other?
GIRL 1: uhmm we are best friends
YOU: nice i thought so, was it instant connection when you first met?
GIRL 1+ 2: *looking at each other* yeh! *giddy*
YOU: haa nice i think its so interesting how when you meet someone you can quickly find yourself on the same wavelength as them
GIRL1+2: uh huh
YOU: its like you understand each other on a deeper level...but you know what it can go the opposite way too!
GIRL 2: like how??
YOU: well sometimes you meet someone but the connection develops slower.. the more you talk the more it grows...you know what i mean?

B) Tactic - Asking for Opinions

Both girls have surely been listening to you, you've probably made eye contact with both of them, BUT you may have only talked to one girl up to this point. It's important to get BOTH girls contributing to the conversation quickly so it doesn't get weird.

All throughout this process, you have the opportunity to bring the non-target into the conversation. You can do this by asking her opinion on certain aspects of your target, or of the conversation.

For example, cold read your target for being at home in herself. discuss that a bit, then turn to the non-target and ask her "hey what do you think, is she at home in herself?