@RedNeck,
Can we rank compliance tests based on intensity?
The way I see things is that compliance is an indicator of her attraction: the more compliant she is, the more attracted she is. Also, I see compliance can be measured in two aspects:
- the number of times she complies, and
- the nature of requests she complies with.
The first one is self-explanatory. The second aspect is what I want skilled seducers to help me with. My two main questions are:
- Is there a correlation between the intensity/type of the compliance test and her attraction? I guess the answer is yes.
- If so, can we rank some compliance tests based on their intensity? For example, does holding her hand score higher on the compliance scale than moving her around? If so, can you guys rank some of those compliance tests?
Of course, a girl driving 10 hours to meet with you is highly compliant. This is obvious.
Yeah sure. This is the reason for the Breadcrumb Principle... you start with small/easy compliance and escalate up to heavy compliance.
"Let me see your hand," said to a girl you just met in a bar, is obviously a lesser compliance request than, "Take your shirt off, this bar's too hot for shirts."
It's hard to rank because of how nuanced you have to get. For instance:
- Moving a girl over a foot-and-a-half so you can lock in is lesser compliance than her leaving her hand in yours while you talk to her.
- Her leaving her hand in yours while you talk to her is lesser compliance than you moving her across the bar to scout the entire venue out.
- Her moving around the venue you with you to scout it out is lesser compliance than her interweaving her fingers with your and squeezing your hand back tightly when you squeeze hers.
- Her interweaving her fingers with yours and squeezing your hand tightly when you squeeze hers is lesser compliance than you suddenly moving her away from her friends to a neighboring venue without telling her friends you were taking her and her eagerly going with you.
But then there's all sorts of caveats there. Maybe she's a girl who really likes holding hands and does it with every guy but she's very resistant to moving around. So for that girl, moving has extra weight on compliance generation, while hand-holding has less weight. Maybe she's a carefree girl who's happy to be on the move constantly, so moving with a guy doesn't have much weight at all, but on the other hand she's really weird about holding hands, so that one carries a lot of weight.
It's really highly dependent on the girl and the context. But you can do a very rough ladder of:
- She listens as you open
- She gives you more of her body as you talk
- She gives you her hand in an introduction (shake/clasp hands)
- She laughs at your jokes or agrees with harmless comments you make
- She reduces her awareness radius to focus on you
- She proactively fills pregnant pauses to continue the conversation
- She allows you to move her physically closer to you (or moves herself)
- She sits with you when you ask her to sit
- She moves to other parts of a venue with you
- She leaves objects with you (coat, purse) while she goes to the bathroom or gets drinks/food
- She pays for things for you (drink, food)
- She allows you to put her hands or legs on you and does not move them off (mutual escalation)
- She leans in when you touch her
- She agrees to a venue change
- She agrees to a pull
- She assents to a kiss
- She assents to physical escalation to sex
- She has sex
- She has sex in different positions
- She has public sex
- She has threesomes
- She brings you gifts/food/money for sex
- She lets you pimp her out
- She lets you knock her up
I guess you could get even crazier, like "She gives you all her money" or stuff like that, but... you get the gist
Anyway, very rough guide... these can move around or transpose based on the girl and her own predilections.
But that's about the order I'd put it in.
+1 to re animate this thread.
@Chase would be awesome to see the series you had planned on compliance ladders here
https://www.girlschase.com/article/how-build-simple-compliance-ladders#comments
Oh man, I totally forgot about that.
Well, I'll throw it on the list! (I think it wasn't on there before, I just mentioned it in the article and forgot it)
Chase