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So I pick up this girl at her apartment. We were gonna go to an arcade but I offer we go for a hike instead, just because it was so nice out. I was hungry so I suggested we get some food.
I've read your supposed to introduce sex as a topic of conversation just to put the idea in her head, so I tried doing that. My beginner dumbass did it in s really clumsy weird way. After we were sitting down at our table at the restaurant, I asked if she was still a virgin. She reacted a uncomfortably to that, but still in a positive way, like with a nervous laugh. She asked me why I asked that and the reason I came up with is because a lot of guys on campus like her. All that I got from that conversation was that she wants her first time to be special. I already knew that. No new ground covered. How do I talk about sex in a beneficial way?
I think I did a good job talking about sex earlier while we were walking to the restaurant. She said a word the wrong way in her accent so it sounded like she said penis and I ran with it, pretending I thought she said penis and then saying I can't blame her for thinking about something like that. I don't think this next line helped as it probably gave off the vibe that I just wanted to fuck, I said, I can't blame you I'm thinking about pussy half the time. I think I got her to laugh and she was like no no I didn't mean it that way. We were having fun.
As we were going on there hike I tried holding her hand several times and on the fifth time it worked and we were holding hands for the rest of the time. I followed the GC advice where if she is giving you resistance you back off and then try again at an opportune moment. When she would resist we laughed it off and I would pretend to be hurt in a joking way, saying stuff like what's wrong with my hand? I swear I don't have a disease. Eventually she told me she didn't want to hold hands because we're not a couple and she didn't want our friends to see. I told her holding hands is fun, it doesn't mean anything and that our friends weren't around. I was like do you see any of our friends gesturing to the wilderness, then I made a joke about how there were paparazzi that might see us, she thought It was funny and then she held my hand.
When we got to the spot by the river that I wanted to show her, I tried kissing her on the forehead. I thought she's showing so much resistnce, I shouldn't go straight for the kiss on the lips. She dodged my kiss and we laughed it off like with the failed handhold attempts. Walking back from the hike, I must have tried to kiss her 8 times. I know too many, I got into this chase mentality. In king of college @Hector Papi Castillo would try to kiss girls and fail but always managed to get it done by like the 2nd or 3rd time, that's at least what I got from reading it, wonder how he does it.
Her objections were that she's a conservative girl and she was raised that way and also the last guy she was with she rushed into things and it ended badly so she wants to go slow this time. I validated her while giving her my point of view, that romance is supposed to be fun and that I usually decide if im going to be in a relationship with someone after I've done stuff with them. Possibly the worst thing to tell a girl? I don't know maybe.
My issue with this date is that I don't know how to escalate, I was touching her her a lot throughout the date, like arm around her shoulder, holding her hand. What are more creative ways I can escalate. Conversation and deep diving was solid throughout the date, so I wasn't lacking on that front.
I just want to know how you seduce a girl that is showing a lot of resistance and your methods of flirting, deep diving, touch aren't working.
I also may have been giving her mix messages, telling her sex and that stuff isn't so serious but then also telling her that im looking for a girlfriend and intimate connection. She may not think im attainable if I keep acting like fucking around is my preferred way. How do I escalate but still give off the vibe that im not a fuck boy?
We have another date this weekend and I want to know how I should text her beforehand. I want to keep building rapport but I don't want to be like every other guy and try deep diving over text. What do I do?
Another thing, both of us share a close friend. This close friend is really close with this girl. Because im friends with this guy, I'm wondering if I could have him help me turn her into my girlfriend. If he thinks that id be good for her, he could help me immensely being telling her that I'm good for her. This girl is very impressionable that is why im saying his blessing would be helpful. I think I could just test the waters by asking him hey do you think I would be good for her? If he says no then I leave it at that, if he says yes I ask him if he wants to help me. Good idea or bad idea to get the friend involved as wingman? Lmk.
I've read your supposed to introduce sex as a topic of conversation just to put the idea in her head, so I tried doing that. My beginner dumbass did it in s really clumsy weird way. After we were sitting down at our table at the restaurant, I asked if she was still a virgin. She reacted a uncomfortably to that, but still in a positive way, like with a nervous laugh. She asked me why I asked that and the reason I came up with is because a lot of guys on campus like her. All that I got from that conversation was that she wants her first time to be special. I already knew that. No new ground covered. How do I talk about sex in a beneficial way?
I think I did a good job talking about sex earlier while we were walking to the restaurant. She said a word the wrong way in her accent so it sounded like she said penis and I ran with it, pretending I thought she said penis and then saying I can't blame her for thinking about something like that. I don't think this next line helped as it probably gave off the vibe that I just wanted to fuck, I said, I can't blame you I'm thinking about pussy half the time. I think I got her to laugh and she was like no no I didn't mean it that way. We were having fun.
As we were going on there hike I tried holding her hand several times and on the fifth time it worked and we were holding hands for the rest of the time. I followed the GC advice where if she is giving you resistance you back off and then try again at an opportune moment. When she would resist we laughed it off and I would pretend to be hurt in a joking way, saying stuff like what's wrong with my hand? I swear I don't have a disease. Eventually she told me she didn't want to hold hands because we're not a couple and she didn't want our friends to see. I told her holding hands is fun, it doesn't mean anything and that our friends weren't around. I was like do you see any of our friends gesturing to the wilderness, then I made a joke about how there were paparazzi that might see us, she thought It was funny and then she held my hand.
When we got to the spot by the river that I wanted to show her, I tried kissing her on the forehead. I thought she's showing so much resistnce, I shouldn't go straight for the kiss on the lips. She dodged my kiss and we laughed it off like with the failed handhold attempts. Walking back from the hike, I must have tried to kiss her 8 times. I know too many, I got into this chase mentality. In king of college @Hector Papi Castillo would try to kiss girls and fail but always managed to get it done by like the 2nd or 3rd time, that's at least what I got from reading it, wonder how he does it.
Her objections were that she's a conservative girl and she was raised that way and also the last guy she was with she rushed into things and it ended badly so she wants to go slow this time. I validated her while giving her my point of view, that romance is supposed to be fun and that I usually decide if im going to be in a relationship with someone after I've done stuff with them. Possibly the worst thing to tell a girl? I don't know maybe.
My issue with this date is that I don't know how to escalate, I was touching her her a lot throughout the date, like arm around her shoulder, holding her hand. What are more creative ways I can escalate. Conversation and deep diving was solid throughout the date, so I wasn't lacking on that front.
I just want to know how you seduce a girl that is showing a lot of resistance and your methods of flirting, deep diving, touch aren't working.
I also may have been giving her mix messages, telling her sex and that stuff isn't so serious but then also telling her that im looking for a girlfriend and intimate connection. She may not think im attainable if I keep acting like fucking around is my preferred way. How do I escalate but still give off the vibe that im not a fuck boy?
We have another date this weekend and I want to know how I should text her beforehand. I want to keep building rapport but I don't want to be like every other guy and try deep diving over text. What do I do?
Another thing, both of us share a close friend. This close friend is really close with this girl. Because im friends with this guy, I'm wondering if I could have him help me turn her into my girlfriend. If he thinks that id be good for her, he could help me immensely being telling her that I'm good for her. This girl is very impressionable that is why im saying his blessing would be helpful. I think I could just test the waters by asking him hey do you think I would be good for her? If he says no then I leave it at that, if he says yes I ask him if he wants to help me. Good idea or bad idea to get the friend involved as wingman? Lmk.
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