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I've been going around and opening girls as part of the newbie assignments, and I always feel a bit awkward after I open. I mean, what do you say once you open? I can't just deep dive right from the beginning, can I? I guess I'm just bad at thinking of things to talk about directly after I open and directly before I start deep diving. Any ideas?
 
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Start with small talk and some light humor. It comes naturally for me to do things like this but ill try and put some examples up

Me. Hey quick question. are you single?
Her. Umm why do you ask?
Me. Just curious.
Her. Yes I am.
Me. (head nod and sexy smile). so what brings you to the mall, any large purchases?
Her. Well i bought this this this and this.
Me. (talk abit about that relate it to something of mine)

In school.

Do we know eachother? or are you looking at me because your curious to meet me?
Her. (abit shocked unsure what to say) I went to such and such high school.
Me. cool I went to such and such, you should come over here and take a seat and talk with me for a bit.
Her. Ok
Me. So i noticed you drawing over there, show me what you got?
Her oh just this (shows me drawing)
Me Very nice you are talented, taking art classes I take it?
Her. thank you, yes I am I am in such and such class.
Me. So are you majoring in arts of some kind
Her. Yes I am I love art
Me. cool, What made you choose art instead of Chemestry, or engenering? besides being talented? (starting to deep dive)

I usually dont start the sexual framing untill later in the convos because I already set up a chase frame with the inital opener

Hope this helps a bit

Cheers, The tool
 

thedude

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Ya I could use some examples or an article on this as well

I need a clean definition of banter- repartee- rapport. I know and can do deep diving.
 

thedude

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Thanks you kind sir
 

Franco

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I mean, what do you say once you open? I can't just deep dive right from the beginning, can I? I guess I'm just bad at thinking of things to talk about directly after I open and directly before I start deep diving. Any ideas?

When you open a girl (especially in day-game), the next step can often be intimidating. A lot of guys experience this, and Tool has given some great suggestions above for getting women involved in conversation.

For me, I am a big fan of using context after opening. Is she shopping? If she is, what is she looking at? A new purse? Or maybe she's looking at a brochure of a trip to Europe. Is it some place she wants to travel? Is it a brochure with some new fashionable dress she dreams about buying?

It often helps to pay close attention to what she is doing. You can usually find something about the context to spark some conversation. If she does just happen to be walking with no environmental context to be used, is there something unique about her fashion that intrigues you? Maybe she wouldn't mind you asking where she got that cute beret from that compliments her outfit!

As you can see, you don't really need to know the girl to make conversation and move things forward with her. If she's interested, she'll likely smile and respond with a question of her own. Just be confident and always have this mindset: "This girl WANTS to talk to me. She knows nothing about me, but she's eager to learn more. Let me give her an opportunity to open up and build a connection with me."

Anyway, keep approaching and things will begin to become natural! ;)

- Franco
 

Sam

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Gentlemen, I can relate with this topic. I noticed that both the banter and the deep diving part of a conversation will vary according to the level of the woman's attraction towards you. Several women will simply not open up to you and they will give short answers, while never actually returning a question to you.

Is there any way or rule of thumb about recognizing this early? How can you tell the difference between a woman not attracted to you and a shy/timid woman who simply needs more work on your part to open up?
 

The Tool

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Honestly through my experience when a women is locked in with me she is locked in and is willing to open up. The women I have had a hard time deep diving with are the ones with which it appears we have nothing in common and or its hard to relate with I.E no common interests or we are complete opposites.

As to answere your question directly A woman that is not attracted to you will be dismissive and not as open I.E not touching you,will be looking around the room I.E "not locked in" she will not smile as much when you are talking to her. where as a shy/timid woman will be happy with your presence, ask you questions, and will overall enjoy being with you.
 
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