FR Couple of Daygame Approaches

[Definitely_not_a_gymrat]

Hey guys, wanted to share two cold daygame approaches I did, this time I believe that I can identify most of my mistakes, not hard since I did not run the best game I possibly could, hopefully people can takeaway something from this, or someone can help me take away something that I never thought to realize. Gonna try to summarize this as quick as possible, showing more story form as @Marty suggested.

Spoiler: APPROACH 1

Saw a cuteish girl studying while I was waiting for my coffee order before class, was debating on whether or not to approach, nothing to do with nerves, was debating whether she was attractive to me. Eventually I decided to go for it, no downside. I started off by asking her if she was wearing uggs, and from there we had a quick couple lines of dialogue about uggs. Then I transitioned into asking what she was studying, decided to ask more about that and about her.

We then talked about what we were doing right after this, and I offered to walk her to her class(on the way to my class). She then said she was waiting for a friend, so I decided to go for an ask, saying

"What are you doing the rest of the week? I know another cool coffeeshop I can take you too, if you're interested?"

She then explained that she was seeing someone, I inquired a little bit about that, and went on my way and wished her a good day.

Mistakes from Approach 1: I don't think I qualified her at all, barely teased her if anything, basic uninteresting convo, although I was half assing the conversation. She wasn't really giving a lot and it was all on me to continue the conversation, didn't seem worth it since I was debating whether she was attractive or not.

After class, while waiting for my dinner order, I did another approach with a girl who was already waiting.

Spoiler: APPROACH 2

Saw a cute girl as I was waiting for my order, saw she was on our tennis game.

"Today's perfect weather to play tennis!"

She then laughed, saying she just came back onto campus, though she knew this was a joke.

I tried to continue the conversation, but she was being super dry, checking her phone while she was responding to my questions. Tbh I considered this a bit impolite, not necessarily rude, so I called her out on it in a socially graceful way,

"Wow, you really seem busy, with whatever you got going on, super important."

She then explained that she was just trying to get a bus, and I told her I understood the struggle, then told her that everyone is going through it as well. I told her she might as well rest a bit because her order would still take a few more minutes. Right after this she seemed to pay attention more, and I asked her about her major. I then proceeded to ask if that was her dream, or if that was to pay the bills. After she said that was her dream, I told her that I love people that go after their dreams, so rare in today's world.

Right after this I got my order, then I went up to her and asked her what she liked to do in her free time. She then said she didn't have a lot of free time, and I seeded a date idea, like coffee or ice cream if she ever had some time. She said yea she could do that sometime. When I went for the ask for the two of us, she said she had a boyfriend. I inquired about that a little bit, asking her how that's working out. She said good, eventually I said "maybe he can cook us eggs in the morning." She didn't really respond so I decided to leave it alone.

A little better of a set but was not really getting much.

Mistakes from Approach 2: Could have teased a bit more, could have tried to create interesting convo, although I felt my opener was good. She just didn't hook, not much I could do.

Summary: Definitely not my best game, idk if both girls actually had boyfriends, although they were describing their situations in great detail after I inquired. Might need to go for the ask a bit earlier, and inject some more playful convo, again this was not my best effort. I did try speaking in a slightly deeper and sexier voice(already have a deep voice), any other takeaways here?

Also, should I continue posting FR's for future approaches, or should I start a journal?

 

[alexlaguma]

To be honest bro I'm not sure if you can derive too many lessons from those interactions. On the face of it they both seem fairly solid interactions, but the key thing is they were both unavailable. It's best to just assume that if a girl has a boyfriend then there is not much you can do about it, you just need to make more approaches and find the available girls. Most of the lessons / insight comes from how you perform with the available girls.

That being said ... some of the best interactions I've had are with taken girls. For example I had one yesterday where I approached in a train station, we stayed chatting for 10 mins, bit of flirting / banter, then as I was leaving I asked if she was single. She said no and actually apologised, but she was unavailable. Not much I can do about that. Yes, I could really push my luck and go for the number anyway but whats the point? Better to find available girls which will be easier.

I just treat interactions like the above as good practice sets, it helps me build my social momentum, gets me talkative / smooth, comfortable in conversations. But I'm taking nothing negative about not number closing ... because she was unavailable and that's just the way it is.

The ones you want to worry about are where they are available and you don't manage to get a number. That is a clear reflection that something about your approach needs work. (I had a couple of these last week and it really forced me to double down on blasting through more sets so I could get back into my groove).

And in response to your last question - I would start a journal. Drop a post in after every day where you make approaches (aim for 4 a day). Include a summary of each approach like you have above. Before long you will start to notice small nuances/patterns about the approaches. Within a few weeks you'll feel like you've got your own personal style of approach locked down.

 

[Definitely_not_a_gymrat]

To be honest bro I'm not sure if you can derive too many lessons from those interactions. On the face of it they both seem fairly solid interactions, but the key thing is they were both unavailable. It's best to just assume that if a girl has a boyfriend then there is not much you can do about it, you just need to make more approaches and find the available girls. Most of the lessons / insight comes from how you perform with the available girls.

Yea, in day game I can’t really tell who’s taken and who’s not if a girl is alone, that you have to find out for yourself. I agree, if they are truly taken and part of the majority unwilling to cheat, not much you can do about it.

That being said ... some of the best interactions I've had are with taken girls. For example I had one yesterday where I approached in a train station, we stayed chatting for 10 mins, bit of flirting / banter, then as I was leaving I asked if she was single. She said no and actually apologised, but she was unavailable. Not much I can do about that. Yes, I could really push my luck and go for the number anyway but whats the point? Better to find available girls which will be easier.

I just treat interactions like the above as good practice sets, it helps me build my social momentum, gets me talkative / smooth, comfortable in conversations. But I'm taking nothing negative about not number closing ... because she was unavailable and that's just the way it is.

Yeah, both girls were polite, although not giving me much in the interaction. I remember though in one of my field reports, I approached a girl at the gym who I thought was very naturally beautiful, even though she had a boyfriend, she was very receptive to my approach and was super nice, I left it off as us being gym acquaintances.

Not saying that not getting a number close is necessarily a bad thing, tbh these days I only care about solid numbers where I can do something with it, flakey numbers mean nothing to me at this point. My point was I still ran subpar game, wanted to see where I could improve, even if the end result would always be the same.

The ones you want to worry about are where they are available and you don't manage to get a number. That is a clear reflection that something about your approach needs work. (I had a couple of these last week and it really forced me to double down on blasting through more sets so I could get back into my groove).

And in response to your last question - I would start a journal. Drop a post in after every day where you make approaches (aim for 4 a day). Include a summary of each approach like you have above. Before long you will start to notice small nuances/patterns about the approaches. Within a few weeks you'll feel like you've got your own personal style of approach locked down.

I’m trying to do as many as possible, but between finals week, my busy schedule, and how cold it is, 4 a day for day game doesn’t seem 100% feasible. Excuses, I know but gotta prioritize my other work as well. Maybe in a bit, I could to do that, but for now, not the best time. I am gonna start a journal and write down each approach, as well as continue writing FR’s for any relevant takeaways! Thanks for the support @alexlaguma!