Hey everyone, I wrote this back in 2013 so it is a little bit outdated, but i still used some of the material online and in person on dates. Take the good, disguard the old. Have fun and enjoy.
Table of Contents:
Introduction
Part 1 – From the computer to the phone:
The Direct Opener
Ask her about her (Info to use later)
Get her imagination going
Make her validate her self to you
Go in for the number kill
Part 2 – From the phone to the bedroom:
The text. 1.5 – The mass texts
The call
The “Hangout”
The date (optional)
The bedroom method of seduction
Part 3 – Add ons and troubleshooting:
Cougar hunting
Disrespect
Flakes
After sex
Types of dating sites
If she refuses to give you her number
Last minute resistance –LMR
Your online dating profile
Part 4:
Conclusion
Introduction:
I really should write a letter to these online dating sites. They have gotten me laid more times than I can count. I always believed knowledge is best shared. This is why I am giving away my seduction secrets of success.
How to get a woman from the computer, all the way to your bed room. Step by step, all the way from the beginning stages of online seduction, to the end. In the bedroom.
I have always chosen online pick up over in person pick up for a number of reasons.
You don’t need to spend any money on gas, drinks, and cover charges to get in places.
All you need is you and your computer to start things off.
You don’t have to be mentally “on” point 24/7, you can take a break from gaming the girl whenever you want. There is no pressure on you when sitting behind a computer.
You get to practice your skills on a wide variety of girls and see what works the best, and eventually create your own routine you can use.
Remember this: Woman get a lot of messages per day from many different guys, with many different types of messages, from looks ranging from ugly to model looking, This is why you need to stand out and differentiate yourself.
In Part 1 of Banging on a Budget. I’m going to explain the online method of seduction.
In part 2. I’m going to teach you how to get her from your front door to your bedroom.
This book is the first and last book you will ever need on how to seduce women from the computer screen to the comfort of your own home.
Part 1 – From the computer to the phone
The Direct opener
I made a fake profile on Plenty of Fish to see what it’s really like for girls on those sites. I was bombarded with messages. One thing stood out though, the quality of the message, which where all very poor quality in terms of attracting the woman. All of the messages had the same subject line and the same message body. None where unique and none where direct.
This is the part where we stand out from the crowd.
There a couple of type of openers you can use here.
Straight direct – Hey I think your sexy and want to get to know you better.
Mixed Signal Direct. – I read your profile, it is awesome but unfortunately it would never work between us! We would have too much fun together!
Direct – Hey, we don’t know each other and ide like to change that.
Funny Direct – Hey, so I thought of this really cute and witty message to send you, but I ended up getting distracted by a taco bell ad! So,hi..
Ask her about herself; find out some information so you can use it later on
Like most people do. Women love talking about themselves, use that to your advantage. Find out a little bit about her. At the same time it stokes her ego a little bit. Don’t do it too much or you will be put in the Lets Just Be Friends category.
To find out some information about her.
You can ask a couple of question:
Simple questions are usually answered with a simple answer:
What do you do for fun?
Do you have any unique hobbies?
Questions to get her imagination going and get her thinking:
What was your favorite childhood memory?
What point in your life where you most popular?
Other questions to gets her imagination going:
I usually include this in the message after she tells me about her self. Most of the time she will ask me to tell her about my self. This is the response that I use. Feel free to make up your own.
I tell girls I have a plan to take over the world, always gets them wondering. Some actually think im serious, others ask me if they can be my pinky (Pinky and the brain reference)
Then after she responds to my last message, I go on to say I like to lift weights, jet ski, go kart, rock climb, anything adventures!!
Tip: Choose something about fun, unique and adventures to put as your first line. – It shows the girls that you’re a fun person to be around and doesn’t take life so seriously.
The next thing to do is to ask them a question to get there imagination going.
A simple question like: If you had to choose one place in the world to visit where would it be and why?
For one, it makes them think, two, it gets there imagination going about all the different places in the world, and the things you can possibly do together . If she has a response that shows she has no imagination. Move on her and find one that does.
“A girl without an imagination is a very boring one” – Unknown
She is most likely going to ask you the same question back, you can answer using trance words. As an example, if she said - She wants to go to Italy, because of the wine and scenery. You can rephrase that around and ask her to tell a story about Italy and adventures with the beautiful scenery and wine. That helps build up rapport, a connection with the girl, it shows that you two have similar values.
Personally, I respond in a different way. I tell her directly what I want to do. My response usually is as follows:
I would choose Italy by far, I have always wanted to backpack through Europe, take a ferry to Sicily then hop over to Greece to relax!
You can get a little more detailed if you would like to get her imagination going even more. Simple answers will work just as well.
Make her validate herself to you
Afterwards I follow up with another question. A question to make her validate her self to you. A girl who validates her self to you makes her think to herself, “I must really like this guy since I am opening up this much already, I must really trust him.”
Once that trust is built you go and ask:
What makes her different then everyone else in the world?
Use that line in the same email you just sent. Just press enter a couple of times to make it seems like it isn’t a run on sentence.
That question is just as important, if not more important than any other question you ask her. It shows her that you’re not like every other guy that just wants her because of her looks; it shows her you are different.
Asking her what makes her different then everyone else shows your no going to take crap from her, be her doormat, or emotional tampon. You want to know what she has going besides her looks.
Going in for the number kill
Once she validates her self to you the rest is very simple. The number is basically put on a silver platter from here.
In her message back to you, she is most likely going to say she’s different than most girls. That is the most common response that I get. This is where you tell her what she wants to hear in your next message.
Tell her: (Name) That’s exactly what I wanted to hear, and I like your answer and honesty a lot. Let’s make this easier shoot me your number and ill shoot you a text.
Notice I said text, not call. The reason for this is because you have to use technology to your advantage, it gives you more time to talk in the long run. Especially if she is out and doesn’t have time to talk on the phone. Since you are going to be getting multiple numbers a week, texting is more of an efficient use of your time.
There are times where talking on the phone is necessity though but I will get to that a little later on.
Part 2 – From the phone to the bedroom
Right now. You are now at the make or break it part of your seduction journey. Awesome!
The Text
You can start this off by many ways; ill give you some examples first:
Hey. Its (Username or name) from ….dating site.
Boring right? – I think so too. Let’s spice it up a little bit…
Hey! (Name) It’s your favorite superhero (funny superhero name) from (dating site) who just took over another county with his bare hands. I just got back from a fun filled day of crime fighting. How’s your day going?
That one usually gets her to laugh.
TIP: The goal of the text is to get her to hang out as soon as possible. IF all else fails plan a date no later than 2-3 days in advance.
After your first text, you can now transition into more of a casual conversation about her hobbies. If you remember a hobby like playing pool or bowling that she talked about on the dating site. Bring that up in the conversation.
You should have about 30 minutes to an hour total of playful banter before sending this next text:
In your next text after you talked for about an hour or so. Ask her what type of trouble she’s getting into that night. If she says nothing, tell her to come and hang out. Notice I said tell her, not ask her, because if you ask her the chance of her saying no is a lot higher then demanding it.
Example: “I’m going to be at XYZ place tonight, come and join me!”
If she says yes to hanging out and going on a date, skip the next two sections and go right to step number 4. The Date.
The Mass Text
Once you acquired a decent amount of numbers over a period of time this is where mass texting comes in. You want to get laid tonight, not a problem. Text multiple girls (Which you should always be doing anyway) to come and hang out that night. One of them has to agree to hang out, and when she does just follow the steps in the next couple of chapters to your same night lay.
The Phone Call
There are certain times in your seduction journey that texting just doesn’t work. You either didn’t build enough comfort, or she has trust issues. She may also feel it’s too soon for you two be hanging out, and she would like to get to know you better. That’s perfectly okay and normal.
This is where calling comes in. It’s always more pleasant to hear who you are talking to, and to show to them you’re a normal person and have a voice through all those texts and messages.
When it comes to phone calls keep them short, under 10 minutes. Plan the date talk for a little longer then get off the phone and plan your next step of the journey.
Some advice I can give you is before you pick up the phone to call, know what you’re going to say as your first line. I suggest making it a funny line or witty statement about something you two talked about in the past, then play off of that at some point during the conversation
A couple of reasons for calling
Not enough rapport was built through texting.
To get to know that the person you are talking to is really them (Hey you never know, catfishes are real)
Key points to remember:
Keep the calls short, under 10 minutes
Plan ahead before calling
Be, calm, cool and collective through out the phone call
Remember, smile! Yes people can sense that even over the phone
The “Hang out”
This only applies to the girls that agreed to come over your place. Short but sweet here a couple of pointers:
Keep your place clean, doesn’t have to be neat freak clean but presentable.
Keep a prop in your house that you can use when you run out of stuff to say. Example - A picture of your baby cousin to show her to show you have a “sweet” side.
When you bring her to your seduction location, make it seem natural like your showing her where the bathroom is.
The Date
A lot of people I have talked to don’t believe in going on dates. They believe it should only be used after you and the girl had sex as a reward. There is a lot of truth to that statement, and some false.
The truth is, yes you should use a date after you had sex with the girl as a reward, but there are a couple of problems to that.
The girl isn’t comfortable coming over to your place on the first meet, so meet her in a public location where you both can go on a date and enjoy each other’s company.
You’re sick of having sex and going through the motions with the girl and want to get back in the dating game, only to spice up your own life and have a little fun.
TIP: Out of those two - Number two is what you should be aiming for.
TIP: Always try to close that same night, but we’ll talk more about that later on.
Who Pays?: You see it all the time, guy and girl go on a date, guy pays for her drink and her meal, guy try’s to contact the girl, the girl is nowhere to be found.
Very typical scenario in the dating world these days. One way to bypass that is:
When you’re out on a date and its time to grab the check for dinner or bowling or wherever you choose to go. Leave the check between you two and don’t touch it, watch her movement to see if she goes for the purse to pay. If she does, say no don’t worry about it, ill pay.
99% of the time she is going to want to pay. I would either pay it myself, or suggest splitting the bill.
If she doesn’t go for her purse, and it ends up being awkward silences, she’s expecting you to pay. If she sticks around in the future, tread lightly on future hang outs months down the road.
Getting her from the date to your bedroom:
This is where the magic comes in. Getting the girl from the date to your bedroom
A couple of different tactics you can use to pull this off.
**Before I tell you though, you can use every tactic in the book but the truth is if a girl wants to fuck you enough, she will find a way**
Tactics to get a girl from the date to the bed:
Leave a prop in your house. Example - The picture of your baby cousin, mention that during the date and on the ride home tell her you have the picture that you want to show her, then take her and lead her into the house from the car, show her the picture. (If she’s in the house, go to The Bedroom Method Of Seduction)
Have her pick you up; tell her your cars in the shop so she’s forced to drop you off and your house and when you’re at the house use tactic one.
Drink a lot of liquids on the date so she has to use the bathroom, while using tactic 2 have her drop you off and by the time you get to your place she’s going to ask to use your bathroom. That is where you suggest since you are here already, tell her to stay hang out and watch a movie.
If you have a backyard this is perfect, on the date tell her. “After this, lets go hang out in my backyard, I have an awesome set up!” The backyard is perfect because it’s non-threatening. Plus, when you two starting making out in the backyard, it has the aura of “its possible to get caught” Women love doing those type of things.
The Bedroom Method Of Seduction
This is the moment where most guys fall flat on their face. They have the girl in the room, but have no idea what do in the situation.
This is my step by step guide on how to seduce the girl right out of her underwear! I’m going to guide you from the walk through the front door all the way to sex. Follow these steps and you have a VERY high chance of getting laid.
A couple of things to remember:
1. If she’s coming instead, she most likely knows the deal. No need to go overboard on things, a little here and there will do the trick in these cases.
2.Give her a little tour of the house or apartment, show her where the bathroom is, so if she needs to go, let her go by herself, since she knows where it is. It shows that you trust her in your home, that builds up instant rapport.
On to The Method Of Seduction:
Scenario:
You both walk through the front door, you have the girl in your house, you’re giving her a tour of your house, you bring her to your bedroom, you sit on the bed, and she sits on the chair. What do you do?
A couple of things:
Keep the fluff talk going
Put on a movie for you two
Show her your prop in your room to get her standing again
Or you can combine all three of those. Personally, I would put on a movie while talking, then before the movie starts show her the prop in your room.
Once the movie starts tell her to come sit on the bed with you, and then say something along the lines of “You can get comfortable, take off your shoes, relax.”
She is most likely going to take off her shoes, sit back and relax. This is where you sit next to her, talk a little more, and make sure you physically touch her during these situations.
A light touch, such as using your fingertips for only a second against her shoulder. (Which you should have been doing since the beginning of the date)
Next: Go lie back on your bed and tell her to come lay down with you. She will most likely come lie down and cuddle up next to you.
*If she feels uncomfortable offer her a massage, I have never ever been turned down offering a woman a massage*
This is where the physical touches kick in. Massage her by running your fingertips along her body. As you’re doing that keep lifting up her shirt telling her it’s getting in the way, remember if she’s in your room, she most likely won’t stop you from doing that. If she says stop, that means stop. Respect that.
Keep pouring on the touches, tickle her a bit to get laughing and smiling. Keep running your fingertips along side her, massage all over he legs, neck, back shoulders, arms, until you start to feel her getting turned on. One that happens start kissing her back, her neck, turn her head around then go in for the kiss on the lips.
If she doesn’t resist and she lies down next to you that makes the seduction process a lot easier. When she lays down next to you, put your hands on her thigh, keep it there, if she lets you, you’re in.
Rub your hands along her thighs for a bit, move up to her stomach, run your hands along her stomach, from here on you know you’re in. Then from there move in closer to her mouth then kiss her.
While making out keep rubbing her thighs, move up to her stomach, basically rub her all over, and keep moving closer and closer to her vagina with your hands. Remember it’s hard for some girls to get stimulated through their pants. So I came up with another trick that I do:
When making out with a girl I get between her legs, make out with her and let my penis rub against her, through her pants. It shows my sexual interest, and you can also make a humping or grinding motion to stimulate sex. What this does is plant sex in her mind; it makes it feel natural to have sex with you that night.
While in that position start pulling her shirt up then pull it off completely, have her also take your shirt off (That’s if she hasn’t done it already for you).
TIP: Keep as many article of clothes on her as possible to prevent a mental state break. The reason I told you to take her shirt off is to get her warned up to know what’s going to come next.
Before you take her pants off, rub your fingers right above the pants lining a couple of times, slowly stick your hands down her pants and start rubbing her clit
**If she resists back off, pull back a bit, continue to make out then try again a little later on once more sexual rapport is built**
Keep rubbing her clit for a while, soft, then harder, keep switching it up. Then start fingering her, and then back to rubbing her clit. Keep switching areas for a while.
At this point if she seems horny enough you can get her pants off.
For jeans – Unbutton her pants button, unzip it, then start rubbing her clit again and take her pants off after rubbing her again for a bit.
For pants without buttons - Start moving her pants lower and lower, and in between keep rubbing her clit to keep her going.
**There are points where you both get so turned on you just pull her pants off, and both get completely naked. If that’s case disregard what I said and have fun!**
After you get her pants off, and she’s there in her bra and underwear I get back between her legs, with my Penis for about 5 seconds I act like im humping her again through her underwear. This alone gets her very horny. Plus it’s a big tease that keeps her wanting more.
At this point pull her underwear aside and start rubbing her clit with your penis, slowing finding the hole and putting the tip in and pulling it out. Keep on teasing her, at this point she’s dripping wet and wants you so badly she’ll let you do anything you want. Pull her underwear off then go back between her legs while making out with her and rubbing your penis against her clit. Put the tip in again, pull it out, do that about 3 times, then insert your penis in, and there you have it. You’re having sex.
*That’s for missionary style, at this point she’s most likely willing to do anything, just tell her what do from here on. Make sure to lead her*
**Sex is more emotional then it is physical, get her emotions going, find a location, get her horny and your good to go**
Part 3 – Add ons and trouble shooting:
Cougar Hunting
Like myself, a lot of young men out there like older women. A couple of myths are that they have more experience and are better in bed. While the experience is more then likely true for older women.
Them being better in bed is false. I have had 20 year olds fuck me better then 30-50 year olds.
Start by talking the older women like you would every other girl. There MIGHT be one obstacle that you will into when talking these women, especially online. That’s the age gap. They will throw tests at you about your age. Don’t let it phase you; it’s only a test to see if you will back down or not.
There are a couple of ways you can do this:
Completely ignore it and go on with your routine.
Have a witty comeback for what she said.
Example – You’re 21. I’m 43, I am way too old for you!
You can come back and say something along the lines. “Ok, ill give you a minute to get over that. Ok, now that your over that” Then continue with you were saying.
You can also false disqualify them. Say something along the lines of “You seem like a really cool chick, but you’re a little to old for me”
A couple of other comebacks:
Women: You’re way too young for me
You: Oh shut up(playfully) you know you can’t resist my youth.
Women: You’re just too young for me
You: Yeah your right, I think you may be too old to keep up with me.
Women: How old are you, you look a little young
You: Old enough to handle you granny.
Women: How old are you, you look little young.
You: Old enough to know age is just a number, young enough not to care.
TIP: Keeps a strong frame and don’t let it faze you one bit, keep a cocky but confident attitude throughout the entire encounter.
2 – Disrespect
Should a woman disrespect you, end it with her cleanly and don’t look back. No reason to take disrespect from anyone.
If you want to have a little fun, or possibly get sex. You can play the Fox Return Game.
Tell her this:
“What you said to me (Name) was really disrespectful, I don’t tolerate that, the only way I would take you back I if you do something really nice for me.”
Her: What do you want me to do?
You: Choose something non sexual that you would want her to do for you. (Llike a handmade gift)
3-Flakes
Should a women flake on you anymore then two times, cut her off completely. No contact. That is a sign of disrespect. Give her one shot, because the truth is, something really could of happened. A flat tire, she got sick. Whatever it may be give her the benefit of the doubt once, and reshedule.
If you feel shes making up an excuse have some fun with it and see whare you can take it:
Say this: Your offer exipres at (Pick a time), either IT self destructs, or gets offered to someone else
That will get her thinking that she might lose you as well as show her that hey flakiness didn’t affect you. As well as showing her you have other options. Those 3 things will get her to open up and possibly end up haning out for the night.
TIP: DON’T respond right away once she flakes, wait about an hour or so before the time you were supposed to hang out.
– After Sex
I know tons of guys out there who fuck and chuck girls left and right. I believe that is morally wrong. Also, who knows when you’re going to get horny again and want sex. Or when shes going to get horny and decide to text you at 2am for a booty call. Only positives in having her around.
After I have sex with a woman I wait about 20 minutes. Then I tell her im getting tired I need sleep. I walk her to the door and tell her to text me when she gets home. If I want to hang out with her again I will make a following date to hang out with her later in the week.
Types of dating sites:
There are tons and tons of dating sites out there, but which one do you choose? A run down of the 3 best dating site in my opinion are:
Plenty Of Fish: The girls are easy, fast, and most likely on the first night will put out, make sure to wrap it up and go for the hot ones only. There are a lot of overweight girls there so be careful and make sure look at the pictures closely.
OkCupid: One of my favirotes, another free site, but the girls are hotter. Lays are just as easy and a big selection of girls to choose from.
Match.com: A paid dating site, women on match take dating a lot more seriously the Plenty of Fish and OkCupid. Same Night Lays are defenitly still possible though, since the site is very popular and shown on TV. The girls are a little bit hotter on match.com then the other two sites.
Facebook: While not a dating site, it can be used as a tool to get laid. I have used it numerous times with suscess and even ended up getting a girlfriend off of it. With Facebook, I run the exact routine I do with online dating sites its no different. Keep your profile vague, and have a good main picture.
If she refuses to give you her number
Theres a couple of things you can here. You can either cut your loses and move to the next girl. Or ask her if she has a facebook.
In the case she asks for your number you can say:
Im sorry but I already have enough stalkers
Since im a very busy guy, you will most likely end up developing a long lasting relashionship with my voicemail, give me your number so I will be able to call you when im free.
Last Minture Resistence – LMR
LMR is when your about to have sex and the girl pulls away from you or says something along the lines of “Should we do this?”
There are a couple of ways to get past this:
Continue with foreplay then try again later
Pullback just enough that itll make her want you even more. Want her less then she wants you.
Tease her sexally. Rub the tip of your penis on her clit, pull back, do I again, rub your penis around her vagina but not going in. Sexualy tease her the right amount and she’ll be begging for you to fuck her.
** All else fails you didn’t build up enough trust in her, or she has sexual hang ups, try again a different day.**
8. Your online profile:
If you have done Online Dating, ever notice when looking at other peoples online profiles they all state the same thing, what they do, where there from and a little about themselves?
When a girl looks at your profile she wants to see that your different then all the other guys. She wants to see your unique.
Example of a standard profile: Hey my names John, I go to Pace university full time, work as an elevator mechanic part time, I have two dogs and one cat…etc
BORING!!
Lets spice this up a little bit:
I party like its 1969! I already won American Idol three times. My strengths overpower my weaknesses. I win all the best tickets to the best shows. I bat a perfect score. Ive made four course meals using only a piece of bread an oven and homemade spices. Im a world class hugger and cuddler. I donate my time to helping the elerdy on weekends. I eat brownies, I sleep 60 min a day. Im a go- getta. Basically, I rock!!
Your profile tells a lot about you. If you have the same boring profile as everyone else, that’s what your going to be to these girls, just another guy. I can’t stress this enough, standing out and being different very important in Online Dating. It will get you laid, and it will get you girls.
Conclusion:
Remember guys, online dating is a numbers game, out of ever 100 girls you message you may only get 5-10 responses and 2-3 numbers. But think about it this way, you do that in a period of a couple of months, you will have girls lined up out the door and down the block for each day of the week!
