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Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey guys this is my journal,

So a little about me last year in college about to graduate in like a few days. Indian descent but totally Americanized.
I have a thing for Asian girls and Latinas. Been reading Girl's Chase for over a year so I understand the concept of most topics.

Feel free to criticize me, I love the constructiveness.

THE APPROACH

Ellie

I'm on campus with my friends and see this girl studying and I'm like I need to approach her.
I'm feeling a little ballsy but I see this cute latina girl wearing a yellow dress sitting and studying (it's finals week).

I decide to be the shark in the water and go for it, but like a shark so tacticfully. I look a little past her direction until she looks at me first.
Then I catch her looking at my through the corner of my eye and catch a glimpse of her. Smile and say
Hi, you have such a unique sense of style my name is cruiser btw!
Girl: Hi my name is (not gonna say her actual name but lets call her Ellie) Ellie.
me: I see you're studying you ready for some finals?
ellie: haha yea its been going, you studying?
Me: Nooo, I'm just cruising with my buddies about to head out to a bar.
Ellie: oh haha that's cool a few of my friends are doing that as well.
Me: oh yea maybe we will run into them, gussing you're not a senior then
Ellie: No im a junior
Me: cool what's your major?
Ellie: im physcology
Me: That's pretty unique as well, well hey I gtg catch my friends how about you and me grab some grub sometime? Whats your number?

She happily gives me her number.

THE SET UP

Text her within hours.
me: Hey Its your new friend cruiser :)
her: Hey dude!!!!
me: so whats your sched look like?
her: uhmmm i have 3 exams next week buuuuuut im free monday
me: great how does xyz sound at x?
her: yay awesome!
me: see ya there ;)

The next day I texted her asking if we could move the meetup to a little later time and she happily agreed because I had shit to do.

This is where I messed up

Since I texted her the day before the meetup, I kinda just assumed she remembered to meet at 5.

I know I should have texted her 4 or 5 hours before asking if we were good tonight, but I honestly forgot.

I text her at 5
me: Hey Im about near!
Her: heyyyy omg dont hate me but you didnt say anything earlier so I wasnt sure whats up but Im at the gym rn.
Im almost done. I can go home quick then meet ya unless u wanna do tomorrow SORRY

in my head im like damn shoulda texted her earlier. I remembered to remain cool and not to call her out or anything. Thanks Chase. The calmer sexier man always wins.

me: oh damn lol. Imma do some groceries real quick , but im down to eat in a lil if your still down :)
her: okay sounds good im omw home
me: aight c ya at 7!

THE DATE

I end up meeting her at this cool restaraunt she shows up and wow shes looking bomb. When I hit on her a few days ago she was wearing glasses and some yellow dress I recall, but she took all that off and was banging!

So this is really how my dates go and I need to figure out where I'm going wrong or need improvement.

I decide to sit us at at the bar because it would be easier to get some small touches in, no table in the way.

her: I've never been here this place is cool
Me: yea a few celebrities have been here before, I can tell you about them if you behave.
Her: haha omg, what should I get?

Spend a few minutes telling her a little about the menu and whats good. I'm leaning in close.

her: do you think this would go good on it?
me: Do I look like a waiter here?
her: haha nooo but idk if I should!

waiter takes our order.

me: So im guessing your into fitness?
her: Ya just like to go workout whenever I can!
me: oh so what are your fitness goals?
her: I wanna get toned (like every girl I run into says)
me: (I touch her bicep and squish it and look at her eyes) wow you are pumping iron!
her: haha i knoww, but I really only do lower body.
me: okay I see you doing that booty work, are you trying to be an ig model?
her: haha maybe one dayy, are you?

I change the topic eventually
me: SO have you traveled before, im going to Europe this summer.
her: omg yes I love Italy, its really nice there...(she goes on for a bit)
me: damn so why did you go to Italy?(trying to deep dive now)
her: well I was in Europe with my family and convinced my mom to let me visit because its nice here.(she kept going on)
me: oh so your mom is strict then doesn't let you do anything
her: i mean only when it comes to travelling, otherwise she's chill.
me: (relating to her) haha yea my friend is 26 and her mom still tells her to come back at 11 pm.
her: thats crazy my moms not that strict.(goes on for a bit)

waiter gets our drinks.

I notice her wrists. I'm gonna try asking for compliance.
me: Hey can I see your wrist for a second.
she gives her wrist.
me: wow you have a really small wrist(put my hand around her wrist).

Pretty much im playing with her wrist and hand for like 5 minutes.

her: let's get a drink
me: that sounds like a good idea what alch do you like?
her: mojitos!
me: haha you know what they say about girls who like mojitos right?
her WHAT?
me: nvm you'll find out one day ;P
her: OMGGG you have to tell me
me: maybe if you behave I will ;)
her: omg just telll me!!!


Waiter gets our food.

her: I just really like arab a kind of things.

me thinking (I'm kinda arab my demographic isn't that far away from it thats a good sign she likes me). Deep dive about arab culture and Dubai.

Now im gonna try and get a little sexual.
me: So do you work?
Her: no not really, why do you work?
me: So I work at the library, and I have to do some rounds where I just check people,
I dont judge on people's sexual behavior because I don't care. But I heard a couple doing it when I was checking up.
Her: omg haha that's crazy
me: Yea people getting horny during finals week but I mean hey!...

half way through my convo she says look at the TV, and it's just some dudes wearing shark costumes..
getting the fact she's not really a sexual person or just got easily distracted I'll try again later.

She notices a song from like middle school playing.
her: omg I remember this from middle school
me: haha middle school was a wild time, that's when kids start to get really horny.
her: hmmm I guess.
me: haha I like how you're agreeing with me
her: I guess I want to hear about this middle school stuff.

then we converse into how she loves her neice and little kids so much did some deep diving on that.

She likes HGTV stuff so we talked about her doing my counter tops one day.

End of date,

THE PULL
me: alrighty you ready to bounce? How about this we can go back to my crib for a bit and chill for a few!
her: haha I wishhh but I can I have to study.(its finals week btw)
(my arm is around her and she is not resisting my around her at this point)
me: oh cmon you got all night to study.
her: I know but my final is at 8 am and I really have to review lol.
me: cmon 30 minutes won't hurt anyone.
her: ughh I can't I need to studyyy
(shes pointing her finger out so I decided to go and touch it with my finger like ET and she starts to laugh)
me: 30 minutes then you can go do whatever it won't take too long.
her: I NEED to study like for real

(I've heard this excuse so much in my college career it's becoming a joke to me. I'm getting a little frustrated and say okay well I guess I'll catch ya later this week)

The date is really the synopsis of how all my dates go. It's usually a 20 percent of the time they come home with me.
Need major improvements. What should I do differently and add? Thanks guys.
 

foggy

Modern Human
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yo0o0o0 whats up cruiser

sounds like this girl was overall pretty easy to get on a date. however finals week is always tough to deal with...girls are stressed and have big responsibilities to take care of, lol. you mentioned she wouldn't go home with you due to needing to study. it was sort of unfortunate that you guys met up a little later than scheduled. i think if you guys had met around the agreed time, she would have been more open to bouncing back to your place for a bit.

was the restaurant close to your place? it makes things a lot easier when the date location is close to the place youre gonna be banging her. maybe what you could have done is gone for a quick walk or something after the restaurant, and then asked her to go to your place.

I'll give you my 2 cents on some of the lines you used:

her: I've never been here this place is cool
Me: yea a few celebrities have been here before, I can tell you about them if you behave.
Her: haha omg, what should I get?

The problem here is simple: you were not listening to what was important to her in that moment. What's important to her here is how the place makes her feel, and you should have discussed that. Instead of talking about emotions, you talked about celebrities, which it seems like she doesn't care about.

A good time to bring out the behave line is when she wants something from you, but you aren't gonna give her it. In this case, you automatically assumed she'd want to know about the celebrities, but she actually doesn't want to know so the line doesn't have any effect.

Spend a few minutes telling her a little about the menu and whats good. I'm leaning in close.

her: do you think this would go good on it?
me: Do I look like a waiter here?
her: haha nooo but idk if I should!

What was your vocal tone here? Playful? The line you used is a push and I think you could have said something better. To me it looks like she's asking for your opinion, and would be a great time to cooperate and team up with her to decide, or even use banter to build some rapport. With her being uncertain, I'm sure you could have taken the lead, been persuasive and encouraged her to try something new out. ;) Also, since you had already told her about the menu, you basically were playing the waiter role, so it doesn't make sense that you broke the frame - should have continued it.

me: (I touch her bicep and squish it and look at her eyes) wow you are pumping iron!

Good, good, kino is good

her: haha i knoww, but I really only do lower body.
me: okay I see you doing that booty work, are you trying to be an ig model?
her: haha maybe one dayy, are you?
me: ohhh definitely. once we're both ig models we should team up and take over instagram!

Good chance to build some rapport here, I have added and bolded what I would have said as an example.

her: let's get a drink

Drinking? The night before she has an exam? Hmm, sounds like she wants to loosen up so she could potentially bang you.

me: So do you work?
Her: no not really, why do you work?
me: So I work at the library, and I have to do some rounds where I just check people,
I dont judge on people's sexual behavior because I don't care. But I heard a couple doing it when I was checking up.
Her: omg haha that's crazy
me: Yea people getting horny during finals week but I mean hey!...

Too deliberate and forced in my opinion. Coulda gone something like this:

me: i work the library. pretty boring job, but sometimes when I'm doing the rounds late at night i catch people doing interesting things.
her: ohh, like what?
me: all sorts of weird things. ive caught people doing coke, having sex, and recently even saw this guy walking through the library in a yeti costume

half way through my convo she says look at the TV, and it's just some dudes wearing shark costumes..
getting the fact she's not really a sexual person or just got easily distracted I'll try again later.

She just doesn't like/doesn't care about the approach you're taking with your sex talk. Sex talk should get her horny and more into you, not distracted! I don't use a lot of sex talk so I can't help you much with your technique, but you should check out Alek's articles.

her: omg I remember this from middle school
me: haha middle school was a wild time, that's when kids start to get really horny.
her: hmmm I guess.
me: haha I like how you're agreeing with me
her: I guess I want to hear about this middle school stuff.

You take the same deliberate approach as before, which doesn't work because she's already showed you that she doesn't like it.

All in all, you did good...approaching her, getting her number, getting her on a date, kino, deep diving...but I think if you were to focus on building a better connection and tweaking the way you bring up sex, then you might see some better results. Let me know watcha think.
 

cruiser

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Ciao @songbird fog

My b for the late response I was recently in Europe!

But you're advice was really well put together. Especially trying to transition to the sex talk.
Like for example listing various things that happen at the library instead of forcefully bringing it up! I need to work on my smoothness more!
But I did use that line you gave me, and ended up getting a bj at the end of the night and am still talking to this girl...did I mention shes from Europe and she's asian? :)
Read my next journal entry and see if you can put any more improvement on my game, I love criticism because it's the truth and it helps improve.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

cruiser

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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European Chick!

I was in Europe and pulled up Tinder and kept it there for a few days.

This very attractive girl matches with me, and the first thing she says is lets meet up.
We will call her Daisy.

She's my age and still in college, finishing up her last year. Half Asian half pizza ;p

We kinda agree to meet up on the weekend but there was a little language barrier through text. Hence came the day and I send the "hey we still good to grab some food? at 7?

Its past 7 and it's 9 and she messages

Daisy: Sorry, ya lets meet.
Me: Hi, ya sure we can do another day.
Daisy: Okay we can meet tonight but where.
Me: oh theres this cafe near by lets meet up there.
Daisy: ok...only 1 problem.
Me: ?
Daisy: I really want to meet up with you but last time I was in this area it took me $40 to go back home which is I don't have but I want to meet you.
Me: Okay that's fine, you can sleep over if you want.
Daisy: No my dad is rly strict he will not allow me.
Me: Oh okay we can figure something out

Pretty much the rest of the convo led up to me agreeing to pay her taxi back home later that night.

We agree to meet at some cafe and its 11:00. She shows up 30 minutes late. Europeans man...they take their sweet time.

She's even cuter in person and wow.

She has a thick European accent but her English is fine, She knows big words and doesn't sound all messed up when she is talking like when she is texting.
She comes up to me and kisses me on both cheeks and says ooops, sorry Its a European thing..I could tell she was bluffing, but I do know its a european thing.

Anyways we're at a cafe on a Sunday night at 11:40 pm and order some wine. We actually genuinely get along and she is super cool. Do some deep diving.

Used songbird fog's advice

D: So do you have a job?
Me: Yes, I used to work at the library "it is pretty boring, but some interesting things happen"
D: Oh really?? Like what?
me: Oh people come party in the front, they dress up as clowns, I catch people have sex, they bring their fish and then throw them across the room to annoy people.
D: Whaaaat they have sex there?!

This is where she starts to really open up her sexuality and I'm a little speechless at some points. I applied the law of least effort and shoved some of the things she said off like I was not amused or anything.

D: One time I fucked a guy because he was so hot in the bathroom at a restaurant , never again I was so scared.
M: Yea, sometimes doing that stuff is fun tho (implying that I have done it but not directly)
D: he was so hot though
M: *bored gazed look,* (time to change the topic, or bust out of here because I could tell she was feeling me) Hey, my place isn't far from here it's a two minute walk? wanna check it out? I have some wine at my place too instead of paying for it here,
D: *looks at me deeply for 5 seconds, ya ok.

we walk back to our place, (text the guys im with to get out and they do, they're awesome)

we are back at my place and show her our apartment we rented out. Then sit on my bed and start making out.

She then gives me a blow job, but only if she uses a condom....eh, but whatever..

We then cuddle and she says "I really like you, you are awesome and so exotic wow!"

I try to fuck her after cuddling but she says she is not ready, she says "oh Wednesday I will be ready"

I'm tired but its fine I guess...
 

cruiser

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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European girl continuation.

When she left she was literally in love with me and pulled my dick and kissed me bye and said c ya tomorrow.

It's tomorrow, and she doesn't answer any of my texts, blown and confused, but whatever.

Next day I get a text, hey sorry I was busy.

We end up meeting that night and grab some food and what not.

She constantly pulls tests

D: I am going to this town next month.
M: Oh yea, what are going to do there?
D: Fuck
M: great.
D: No I am kidding cmon

D: You know you are a genuinely good guy, but when you are in bed, it is like the devil

I took her back to my place but she kept resisting for sex again. I'm like oh great, where did I go wrong.

This happened multiple nights and nothing ever happened other than cuddling till 3 am and some bjs.

also talk about me paying for her taxi everytime...but it was worth it, she was cool and it was an experience.

So she pretty much tells me how other guys shes been with have big dicks and blah blah. I kinda ignore her don't really wanna hear that shit lol.

My trip is ending near, and I want to extend it. So she brings it up, we should go to another country together.
We decide to go because fuck it why not, it'll be a great story.

We buy plane tickets together fly there get an air b n b.

Great time viewing everything and shit. We were there for 3 days.
Every night I really tried to escalate to sex, but it just never happened.

She let me take her pants off so she can get some fresh air but when I would try sticking my d in there she would just hesitate and block it. Didn't want to force her or anything..but confused at most. She kept saying everynight, no not tonight tomorrow. I kept pushing and saying "baby we're not with each other all the time and I like ya, you're cool I'm not using you okay?!" just stuff like that..

I think that is my problem. When I see that an approach is not working I really try to use the same approach like 50 times until I become frustrated. Most of the time it happens because I don't know what else to do. I just kept trying to iterate in her head that we dont have too much time and I'm not using you, we will still talk and stuff...

She also kept bringing up her ex boyfriend who lives in another European country. She just sometimes talk about how she would visit and they would just fuck all the time. Didn't quite know what to say at times there too, so I just drank whatever drank I had and looked away in boredom.

Pretty much her ex broke up with her and she still kinda likes him, but then there is me(the better version because of this site!!!). The guy ghosted her and she hasn't done anything in like a few months so yea.

She said I moved way too fast, and no guy has ever moved this fast with her and she is not sure she was ready to have sex with me because she thought I only wanted a hook up. Game across sea's is different when you are foreigner? Usually in the states you drop a girl like that. I think I need to work on fundamentals more and being more smooth. We still talk, and are trying to meet up again in Europe. Need some advice on what to really do. Like I like this girl, but I think I am going a little too head over heels because she's pretty exotic and I actually enjoy being with her and talking with her....wouldn't mind moving to Europe for a year it looks fun. any advice on that too would be STELLAR...
 
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