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Hey all,
this is my second report on the forum. The last one was extremely wordy and for this I apologize. I'll do my best to keep this one to the point and avoid boring you all (it's a learning process after all lol).
A little background. I met this girl on Tinder last week, we'll call her Kayla. I'm very busy at the moment so I've been using Tinder as a way to get dates, as I really need experience in this field. Anyhow, we hit it off on the app quickly, and I got her number with ease. A date was originally scheduled for Sunday, but Kayla ended up having to reschedule and so it took place yesterday morning instead.
My logistics (= horrible): The date takes place at a small coffee bar in Downtown Toronto. I live way out in the suburbs, so it was quite the journey (about 45 mins on the train). My plan was to get to know her at the coffee bar, deep-dive and such and then bounce to my old uni around the corner. The deal with this school is that it's an arts university, a very interesting building with lots of cool stuff going on inside. At the moment it's Reading Week so there isn't too much traffic at the school as most students are home. My intention was to walk her around for a bit, talk some more and get her comfortable with me and then lead her to a secluded stairwell, where I and my schoolmates had taken girls to before albeit with varied success. I brought an overdue library book from the school along with me as a "prop", to make it look as though that were the reason we ended up at my school.
The actual date: I get to the coffee bar about five minutes late. Kayla messaged me that she was already there and occupied herself in the mean time perusing the comics in the adjoining comic store. [I showed up five minutes late for my last two dates as well because for some reason it just feels right to do this (anyone else on here do this?)]. Also note that this is my third date in my entire life, ever. The first took place sometime early last year, and the second was last Sunday (a total flop mind you, but I aint even mad).
I meet her as she leaves the aisles of comics to find me. We hug and ask each other how our mornings were. After paying for our coffee, we take a seat at some bar stools by the window. The seating isn't as intimate as I'd like but right now, I figure the more random data points I collect the better (I have a sort of fail fast, fail quick approach to seduction atm). I deep dive her on school, and where she's from and we connect on the fact that we both feel university to be a waste of time for those with creative leanings. I also find out that her logistics are absolute shite (two bedroom apartment, 3 room mates + her..yikes). Generally the conversation is like 15% me and 85% her. After finishing our coffees, I suggest we take a walk; an "adventure" as i frame it. She complies with the idea and we head towards my school though she doesn't exactly know it yet.
While walking I experimented with leading her by the small of her back. This is something I've never consciously done before and I definitely need practice.
Fast forward we get to my school, I drop off the book, and we take a walk around. We look at some art very briefly and then simply walk the hallways and stairwells. I have no idea why but the 10 minute rule is on my mind even though it doesn't necessarily apply in this case. Regardless, as soon as we end up in a vacant stairwell I pull her in and kiss her, she reciprocates, and gives me no resistance. I push her against a wall and we make out a little while more before i grab her hand and lead her to the top of a very spacious stairwell I'd mentioned earlier.
Here I attempt my escalation and see how far I can get. We make out, and are touching each other. She's into it but not very aggressive, touching me also but not tearing me apart (expectations too high on my part I think
). I grind her, kiss her neck and down toward her chest, I go to unbutton the vintage army jacket she is wearing and she stops me. Resistance, so early? This one'll take a while. This "resistance" continues with progression. I finally get her jacket off. i try to uncover her breasts - she resists. I try to rub her pussy through her 'Jeggings' - she resists. I grab her hands and try to put them up my shirt - she resists. Okay.. so i stick to making out, grinding on her, and squeezing her soft bum, which she likes. This whole "escalation" took place over a period of an hour, in which the furthest I got was squeezing her breasts and teasing her nipples with my teeth through the lace "pseudo-bra" she was wearing, and during a heated session of heavily grinding her from behind which she seemed to really enjoy, she allowed me to rub her pussy from the front. I reckon if we stayed another hour i may have finally managed to fuck (maybe?), but I wasn't having it and clearly neither was she as she subtly hinted when she let me know she had to go buy clothes for her rehearsal.
Overall it wasn't awkward. I see this as chalking down to poor logistics on my part, a slight lack of deep connection building, and possible lack of experience on hers . I let her go and haven't planned on contacting her. I just want to go out and meet more women.
NOTE: In hindsight I realize that these logistics could've provided a really good opportunity to get some conversation going about art and such but I was uncomfortable, due to lack of experience, so I rushed through the seduction and connection-building suffered as a result.
Critique at will
Topcat
this is my second report on the forum. The last one was extremely wordy and for this I apologize. I'll do my best to keep this one to the point and avoid boring you all (it's a learning process after all lol).
A little background. I met this girl on Tinder last week, we'll call her Kayla. I'm very busy at the moment so I've been using Tinder as a way to get dates, as I really need experience in this field. Anyhow, we hit it off on the app quickly, and I got her number with ease. A date was originally scheduled for Sunday, but Kayla ended up having to reschedule and so it took place yesterday morning instead.
My logistics (= horrible): The date takes place at a small coffee bar in Downtown Toronto. I live way out in the suburbs, so it was quite the journey (about 45 mins on the train). My plan was to get to know her at the coffee bar, deep-dive and such and then bounce to my old uni around the corner. The deal with this school is that it's an arts university, a very interesting building with lots of cool stuff going on inside. At the moment it's Reading Week so there isn't too much traffic at the school as most students are home. My intention was to walk her around for a bit, talk some more and get her comfortable with me and then lead her to a secluded stairwell, where I and my schoolmates had taken girls to before albeit with varied success. I brought an overdue library book from the school along with me as a "prop", to make it look as though that were the reason we ended up at my school.
The actual date: I get to the coffee bar about five minutes late. Kayla messaged me that she was already there and occupied herself in the mean time perusing the comics in the adjoining comic store. [I showed up five minutes late for my last two dates as well because for some reason it just feels right to do this (anyone else on here do this?)]. Also note that this is my third date in my entire life, ever. The first took place sometime early last year, and the second was last Sunday (a total flop mind you, but I aint even mad).
I meet her as she leaves the aisles of comics to find me. We hug and ask each other how our mornings were. After paying for our coffee, we take a seat at some bar stools by the window. The seating isn't as intimate as I'd like but right now, I figure the more random data points I collect the better (I have a sort of fail fast, fail quick approach to seduction atm). I deep dive her on school, and where she's from and we connect on the fact that we both feel university to be a waste of time for those with creative leanings. I also find out that her logistics are absolute shite (two bedroom apartment, 3 room mates + her..yikes). Generally the conversation is like 15% me and 85% her. After finishing our coffees, I suggest we take a walk; an "adventure" as i frame it. She complies with the idea and we head towards my school though she doesn't exactly know it yet.
While walking I experimented with leading her by the small of her back. This is something I've never consciously done before and I definitely need practice.
Fast forward we get to my school, I drop off the book, and we take a walk around. We look at some art very briefly and then simply walk the hallways and stairwells. I have no idea why but the 10 minute rule is on my mind even though it doesn't necessarily apply in this case. Regardless, as soon as we end up in a vacant stairwell I pull her in and kiss her, she reciprocates, and gives me no resistance. I push her against a wall and we make out a little while more before i grab her hand and lead her to the top of a very spacious stairwell I'd mentioned earlier.
Here I attempt my escalation and see how far I can get. We make out, and are touching each other. She's into it but not very aggressive, touching me also but not tearing me apart (expectations too high on my part I think
). I grind her, kiss her neck and down toward her chest, I go to unbutton the vintage army jacket she is wearing and she stops me. Resistance, so early? This one'll take a while. This "resistance" continues with progression. I finally get her jacket off. i try to uncover her breasts - she resists. I try to rub her pussy through her 'Jeggings' - she resists. I grab her hands and try to put them up my shirt - she resists. Okay.. so i stick to making out, grinding on her, and squeezing her soft bum, which she likes. This whole "escalation" took place over a period of an hour, in which the furthest I got was squeezing her breasts and teasing her nipples with my teeth through the lace "pseudo-bra" she was wearing, and during a heated session of heavily grinding her from behind which she seemed to really enjoy, she allowed me to rub her pussy from the front. I reckon if we stayed another hour i may have finally managed to fuck (maybe?), but I wasn't having it and clearly neither was she as she subtly hinted when she let me know she had to go buy clothes for her rehearsal.Overall it wasn't awkward. I see this as chalking down to poor logistics on my part, a slight lack of deep connection building, and possible lack of experience on hers . I let her go and haven't planned on contacting her. I just want to go out and meet more women.
NOTE: In hindsight I realize that these logistics could've provided a really good opportunity to get some conversation going about art and such but I was uncomfortable, due to lack of experience, so I rushed through the seduction and connection-building suffered as a result.
Critique at will
Topcat
