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Introduction
This is the kind of outing that I get back home and think should I even write a report for it? I mean I have a bunch of random outings where I will spend more time with a girl, maybe even kiss her but nothing more, and never know which ones would be worth a field report in the end. I decided to write it down because firstly it is nightgame and with some dancing involved that I have generally never used well for pickup purposes, and secondly because I start seeing a pattern of me getting girls attracted at night but still not being able to pull them when they are out with a friend ( not saying I could pull them by themselves, but this is the scenario here ). Anyway if people find reports for such kind of outings valuable, I will have it in mind to post them when I can. Hope you enjoy!
Setting
I was out with a girl I know and her boyfriend for a drink after watching a theatre play. Always a struggle by the way, to not go and approach hot women around in such scenarios. I think I don't have such reputation in my social circles, so I generally tend to stay away from it when I am with people from there. One great reason to both smoothen out my approaching and build my vibe in a way that people will expect me to be sexual in general.
Anyway after finishing the drink we started walking and we live pretty close ( they live together ), but I really wanted to stay out more during the night and make some approaches. Gladly I managed to separate from them, in order to take a different tram that brings me exactly outside my place, and I went on to make the approaches I craved.
I was planning to go for night street game as I generally like, funny thing is though that inside the main train station where I had arrived, there was some kind of dancing event. They had a ball earlier, and I thought it would be completely over, but I realised that now they were playing latin music. The whole area was basically a latin club with people dancing salsa and bachata everywhere.
I have been taking classes in both lately so I thought ok why not warm up a bit with some dancing. I have not generally been successful seducing girls while dancing, so I wasn't having many hopes for that, but my idea was: let's try to dance with some girls I don't know and see how it goes. worst case scenario I am just in a more social energetic and sexual mood.
Approach
So I saw two girls standing close to the dance floor, I went in to ask for a dance, but another guy was faster, I saw him talking to them but not being received well. I decided to take a very short walk around and wait, didn't find any better prospects ( or in fact there were some very cute younger asian girls, but I have such a bad experience asking young girls for dancing in clubs and bars that I think they feel extremely unattainable to me at this point, I should fix this mindset ) and came back fast. The other guy had left and I approached from the side.
One of the girls was shorter with blond hair and high heels, the other was taller with a more casual attire. I feel I liked the taller more as usual, but I would honestly take either. I kinda asked both if they were up for a dance, but I was sitting next to the shorter one, so I believe I looked at her first, and it felt like she was the one I was firstly asking.
I received a momentary pause, and kind of a rejection, and was ready to move on, before the tall friend told the other girl that it's fine, and she can go dance with me. I found that interesting, and realised that the tall one is probably the responsible one and the leader, and she also wants her friend to have some good time with the right guy.
Dance Floor Game
We started dancing, and my plan was to lead her fairly well to establish a dominant frame with my body. There was some bachata on so it was quite easy to stay close and be sensual. This girl was just bad though, she even told me, but sometimes I don't realise how out of rhythm some people can be. I was trying to lead some basic steps and turns and it was all over the place, but I really didn't want go into teacher mode and try to show her some right moves, because the point of all this was not to dance very well but to seduce.
At the same time I also saw a lot of people I know there. I didn't realise initially, but the more time I spent around, the more I understood that a bunch of people that I have taken classes with were dancing. As I said I don't have a sexual reputation at all in my social circles, especially in my dancing ones I feel I may even have a more awkward one due to the way I have been acting there since entering. This somehow was a positive though, because although I do know these people in theory, in practice it wouldn't be very incongruent if I didn't interact with them at all. So in a way I could focus on my seduction and not care about them around.
So I did focus on that. The girl was a bit drunk and in quite a good mood. She was telling me she is German and that's why her latin dancing is awful, I was telling her I love her energy though and how crazy she is. She was backleading a lot, but after a bit I understood her main set of patterns, so I simply started to lead what she was following and not what I wanted correctly to lead. I also took a bit of care that she didn't crush on others or fall down herself with these high heels that were not meant for dancing at all.
Generally all the control I had with the close holds, open holds and turns started getting me pretty excited, so I was sure she was getting as well. At times I was telling her to relax on me, and simply feel and follow what I am doing, and she was responding positively and trying, still being quite energetic though, so I was also telling her she was too much fun. The good thing is that I had moments where I was bringing her in extremely close contact, dancing with one of my legs between hers, and my head very close to hers, so I was also checking from time to time when she was turning to face me me if she was ready for a kiss. I was very careful to calibrate my escalation on that, both for her and for her friend that was watching from the sidelines.
In fact between songs her friend would just come to check in, saying with her eyes: As long as you are still comfortable feel free to have your fun. They were also speaking a bit of German that I couldn't understand, and then the friend would stand outside the dance floor talking to other guys, or dance by herself a bit. I was feeling I was at a good place regarding both their approvals so after a song, while we were hugging close looking at each other, I went for a kiss. It was very short, just lips, and I think she even broke it first, so I realised I should take a step back. I continued dancing, bringing her close sometimes and keeping her away others, without really defusing the tension, just staying controlled and unfazed.
After a bit my girl had a sip from her beer can, left a bunch of lipstick on it, I asked to have a sip as well, teased her about her lipstick and whether she made me like that as well, she tried to use her finger to clean my lips, but I told her she now has to take care of it, by giving me more to look better. I basically showed my lips with my finger inviting her to come for the kiss, and she came and gave a short one again. After that she stayed a bit further away, and went in the dance floor by herself and closer to her friend who was there, so I thought it was better to just leave her for a while.
As a result I went and picked another random girl to dance a song with, somehow she was also a bad dancer although she was latin, but anyway after that I approached my girl again and started dancing right away. She was quite receptive to my leading by that point, and for a while we had a similar pattern of dancing for a bit, her friend coming to check in, some short kisses that sometimes I initiated and sometimes she did, and me telling her generally to rest herself on me, that I am holding her and that I love how crazy fun she is.
At some point in the middle of this we were separated a bit again, next to each other but dancing solo looking at the stage with the music, and a girl I know from my dance classes came next to me from the other side. She greeted me, I greeted back, I danced briefly towards her side, but didn't want to give her too much attention and take it from the other girl. Funny thing is that the moment the song changed, and I reverted my attention to the other girl, I pulled her towards me and she kissed me right away, I suspect because she felt some of the preselection and competition. Also interesting, the girl from my dance class disappeared pretty fast after that, didn't even see her again around me the rest of the night.
( Not ) Closing Time
At that point the party was going towards the end, I had been wearing some quite warm clothing my girl kept mentioning, to which I was replying, that yeah, I am hot, or variations of this, and there was a point after some of our close dances that I told her she is also fucking hot, and a lot of fun for a German girl. I was also having my head very close to hers, breathing heavily through my nose above her ears at a moment, brushing her hair, and even giving her some little kisses on her head sometimes. After having done all that, at some point I told her I really want to steal her from her friend tonight.
Her first reaction to that was to ask me a bunch of questions, like where I am from, what I am doing here etc. I answered them all as clearly as I could, since I felt she just needed more comfort. Then after waiting and dancing for a bit, I told her again I would like to spend more time with her and love her company. The party was ending, and her friend had also told her during one of the times she checked in that she should keep track of it. So she was telling me that she soon needs to go, and that she lives in another city which is one hour and a half away by train, and if she misses the next one she will have to wait too long. I told her I can keep her company until then, and make sure she takes the next one ( after the one that was leaving in half an hour that she wanted ) she will be home early. She asked me where I live, I told her the place, which was around but still needed a train to go to, and she was resisting saying that she has been loving the dancing and the company, but she wants to leave early and it won't work going there and back.
Around then the music stopped completely and she went back looking for her friend, who had been talking to a DJ, having some crush on him if I got it right. Anyway the friend had a general vibe of: Your train leaves then, but you do you, if you wanna stay with this guy do it. Then the friend asked me some quick questions herself about who I am, what I am doing, and if I will take care of her, and I feel I answered pretty clearly and solidly while holding my girl. At that point she told me: Ok, I will take your phone and trust you that you bring her home. I gave my phone, she left a bit further and I really thought that everything was ready for the pull. I even booked my ticket back home online at that moment.
But then as I started moving my girl towards the platform to take the train, the way towards there was passing in front of her friend, and she said she firstly has to stop and say hi to her and her DJ friend. I got introduced to him, and he started talking to my girl, while I started talking more to her friend. It was a quick chat, I felt I came off quite cool, she still had an interrogating vibe, but we talked a bit about dancing, and she trusted me even more. After a bit, I felt we were standing there too much, I looked back and saw my girl just sitting down at a bench. I went and sat next to her, caressing her back with my hand, also went in to give her a kiss when the friend was not looking and managed a short one, but had to manhandle my way in a bit. Then they started talking with her friend about the high heels and how difficult it was to dance with them and I also gave her respect for managing that ( my idea here was to appreciate the feminine essence of the high heels and how sexy they are, don't think I achieved it very well ).
The thing is that something about the pull had started to feel very off. My girl was looking at the timetables of her trains back home on her phone, and I asked her what she was checking and I realised that probably she hadn't completely agreed to coming home with me. I again told her we can go together and I'll make sure she gets back but she was giving me the same objections as before. Then her friend came in telling me that I promised to bring her back to her train, and I told her I promised to bring her back all the way to her place. I was basically trying to construct a situation where I would go to my girl's place, since she didn't seem willing to come to mine. Eventually after few minutes the train she wanted to take was coming, so we three walked together till the platform.
During that she said that I was a great dancer, and although I kept dancing with her she was bad, and I told her that I loved her energy and that's what I care more about. I told her again that I would like to spend more time with her, she seemed firm on wanting to go home now, so I asked for a phone number. She told me her friend has the number and will give it to her, and I said I would also like to have it, because I know how these things work, sometimes you forget, you wake up after having drunk and don't think about it and you never connect. She still didn't want to give it.
At some point during this walk she said something about her high heels again, her friend made a comment, and my girl said something along the lines of: Yeah I am still 39, still have some time in my thirties to enjoy life. Then she turned to me and asked my age, I simply said 27. Then she felt surprised and couldn't believe it for a moment, I stayed unfazed, and as she realised it was the truth, she said she feels like a MILF. I responded a yeah I find it hot, her friend enthusiastically said I am really direct with it, my girl made another small comment about age, I said I don't care, and her friend told her she should just go for it.
After that we were getting very close to the train, I asked for the number one last time or to be sent a text now and got the same response that her friend would give it to her tomorrow, so I didn't pressure her more and when she got in the train I simply gave her a hug wishing a great night.
Then we walked a bit back with her friend, she wanted to go and meet the DJ and I was going towards my train. During that time we had a friendly chat that flowed pretty well, I told her I love how much she takes care of her friend, it was also a bit playful, since she wanted to find a toilet but all the public ones looked closed. Before we parted ways she told me that she really feels I am solid guy ( she didn't use this word, but I don't remember the exact one, it was something similar, not good or nice for sure ), and it did feel like she was approving me for her friend. She even told me in the end something like: See you again, or not exactly. I kinda feel by the way she said it that she meant she would give the phone, but then she realised that even if she does, I will see her friend and not her. When I left I wished a good night and obviously nothing about my phone.
Thoughts
This is it. Just want to mention for the last part that I am not betting on this phone ever reaching the girl, and her texting me back, I guess you never know, but I write off interactions when they go like that. The reason I focused on the discussion about age and with the friend in the end is because I really feel that eventually the friend trusted me and approved of me. And I find that valuable in such scenarios in general. The bad thing is that I had a similar situation about two weeks ago with the friend approving of me, but my girl not coming home eventually.
At least I feel that I was fairly sexual, and quite calibrated this time. Not sure what I could have done differently to get the pull here to be honest. Maybe some even stronger leading with my girl? She really felt very attached to her friend though. Maybe I should have simply taken her and started walking towards a direction opposite to where the friend was after giving my number, to minimise the friend influence, even if it would mean making a circle to reach the platform.
Also not sure what's going on with me and older women, maybe a positive feedback loop at this point. I at least know I come off older, I literally met a girl at the bus going home after this report, I told her my age and she said she was the same age and couldn't believe I was telling the truth.
But it's not that I don't like younger ones, it just feels very difficult for me to get their attention initially in order to even have the chance to game them some more. Maybe I don't come off high authority enough? I have never really been in a high authority position in my life, so I guess I don't have ingrained in me how exactly it would feel. I remember I once street stopped a hot young girl in flashy clothing during the night, and I was surprised that she received me positively, because this approach felt pretty strong for my standards. I generally try to mellow my approaches down to make them warmer, but maybe I am doing it too much with beautiful young girls and it comes off incongruent that I am an older looking guy that is still so friendly with them.
Thanks for everyone taking the time to read, and comments are always welcome.
Extra thoughts:
Something I was thinking after sleeping on it is that I probably didn't connect enough with my girl. I think I got too focused on leading her and making her excited and then on having her friend trust me, that I didn't really get to know my girl on a deeper level. We were dancing a lot, so it felt incongruent to start connecting there, but I could have surely taken her a bit outside the dance floor to talk and come closer. I also noticed the lack of connection, because the first thing she did when I initially told her I wanted to spend more time together was to start asking me about myself. We really didn't know anything about each other.
I would even say I ended up talking to her friend more, and kinda felt we connected, which was not bad by itself, but for some reason I thought that getting the approval of the friend and having my girl hot for me would be enough. So this is something to keep in mind, even during nightgame that apart from getting the girl excited, you have to spend some time to connect, and not assume that you can get away with knowing simple things about each other and answering some questions when they come up towards the end.
I feel my fear was that by taking her away from the dance floor to talk a bit more, I would break the magic of the physical connection we had. But it is probably needed to ground the interaction like this, so that the girl can feel that you are not just sexually excited and find her hot, but you are also interested in her as a person. I suppose there are situations where there may be instant desire by the girl to have sex without connecting a lot, but she clearly wasn't that. She was enjoying dancing close and my leading, but she never went fully into our kisses so I should have realised that if I wanted to pull her I couldn't simply excite her more and more and then lead her out of there, but I had to take some time to connect with her and make her more comfortable making the decision to let herself come and enjoy some time with me.
So even a simple: Hey let's take a quick rest from dancing, and then moving her, isolating her and getting to know her in a more relaxed state is something I will keep in mind for the future.
This is the kind of outing that I get back home and think should I even write a report for it? I mean I have a bunch of random outings where I will spend more time with a girl, maybe even kiss her but nothing more, and never know which ones would be worth a field report in the end. I decided to write it down because firstly it is nightgame and with some dancing involved that I have generally never used well for pickup purposes, and secondly because I start seeing a pattern of me getting girls attracted at night but still not being able to pull them when they are out with a friend ( not saying I could pull them by themselves, but this is the scenario here ). Anyway if people find reports for such kind of outings valuable, I will have it in mind to post them when I can. Hope you enjoy!
Setting
I was out with a girl I know and her boyfriend for a drink after watching a theatre play. Always a struggle by the way, to not go and approach hot women around in such scenarios. I think I don't have such reputation in my social circles, so I generally tend to stay away from it when I am with people from there. One great reason to both smoothen out my approaching and build my vibe in a way that people will expect me to be sexual in general.
Anyway after finishing the drink we started walking and we live pretty close ( they live together ), but I really wanted to stay out more during the night and make some approaches. Gladly I managed to separate from them, in order to take a different tram that brings me exactly outside my place, and I went on to make the approaches I craved.
I was planning to go for night street game as I generally like, funny thing is though that inside the main train station where I had arrived, there was some kind of dancing event. They had a ball earlier, and I thought it would be completely over, but I realised that now they were playing latin music. The whole area was basically a latin club with people dancing salsa and bachata everywhere.
I have been taking classes in both lately so I thought ok why not warm up a bit with some dancing. I have not generally been successful seducing girls while dancing, so I wasn't having many hopes for that, but my idea was: let's try to dance with some girls I don't know and see how it goes. worst case scenario I am just in a more social energetic and sexual mood.
Approach
So I saw two girls standing close to the dance floor, I went in to ask for a dance, but another guy was faster, I saw him talking to them but not being received well. I decided to take a very short walk around and wait, didn't find any better prospects ( or in fact there were some very cute younger asian girls, but I have such a bad experience asking young girls for dancing in clubs and bars that I think they feel extremely unattainable to me at this point, I should fix this mindset ) and came back fast. The other guy had left and I approached from the side.
One of the girls was shorter with blond hair and high heels, the other was taller with a more casual attire. I feel I liked the taller more as usual, but I would honestly take either. I kinda asked both if they were up for a dance, but I was sitting next to the shorter one, so I believe I looked at her first, and it felt like she was the one I was firstly asking.
I received a momentary pause, and kind of a rejection, and was ready to move on, before the tall friend told the other girl that it's fine, and she can go dance with me. I found that interesting, and realised that the tall one is probably the responsible one and the leader, and she also wants her friend to have some good time with the right guy.
Dance Floor Game
We started dancing, and my plan was to lead her fairly well to establish a dominant frame with my body. There was some bachata on so it was quite easy to stay close and be sensual. This girl was just bad though, she even told me, but sometimes I don't realise how out of rhythm some people can be. I was trying to lead some basic steps and turns and it was all over the place, but I really didn't want go into teacher mode and try to show her some right moves, because the point of all this was not to dance very well but to seduce.
At the same time I also saw a lot of people I know there. I didn't realise initially, but the more time I spent around, the more I understood that a bunch of people that I have taken classes with were dancing. As I said I don't have a sexual reputation at all in my social circles, especially in my dancing ones I feel I may even have a more awkward one due to the way I have been acting there since entering. This somehow was a positive though, because although I do know these people in theory, in practice it wouldn't be very incongruent if I didn't interact with them at all. So in a way I could focus on my seduction and not care about them around.
So I did focus on that. The girl was a bit drunk and in quite a good mood. She was telling me she is German and that's why her latin dancing is awful, I was telling her I love her energy though and how crazy she is. She was backleading a lot, but after a bit I understood her main set of patterns, so I simply started to lead what she was following and not what I wanted correctly to lead. I also took a bit of care that she didn't crush on others or fall down herself with these high heels that were not meant for dancing at all.
Generally all the control I had with the close holds, open holds and turns started getting me pretty excited, so I was sure she was getting as well. At times I was telling her to relax on me, and simply feel and follow what I am doing, and she was responding positively and trying, still being quite energetic though, so I was also telling her she was too much fun. The good thing is that I had moments where I was bringing her in extremely close contact, dancing with one of my legs between hers, and my head very close to hers, so I was also checking from time to time when she was turning to face me me if she was ready for a kiss. I was very careful to calibrate my escalation on that, both for her and for her friend that was watching from the sidelines.
In fact between songs her friend would just come to check in, saying with her eyes: As long as you are still comfortable feel free to have your fun. They were also speaking a bit of German that I couldn't understand, and then the friend would stand outside the dance floor talking to other guys, or dance by herself a bit. I was feeling I was at a good place regarding both their approvals so after a song, while we were hugging close looking at each other, I went for a kiss. It was very short, just lips, and I think she even broke it first, so I realised I should take a step back. I continued dancing, bringing her close sometimes and keeping her away others, without really defusing the tension, just staying controlled and unfazed.
After a bit my girl had a sip from her beer can, left a bunch of lipstick on it, I asked to have a sip as well, teased her about her lipstick and whether she made me like that as well, she tried to use her finger to clean my lips, but I told her she now has to take care of it, by giving me more to look better. I basically showed my lips with my finger inviting her to come for the kiss, and she came and gave a short one again. After that she stayed a bit further away, and went in the dance floor by herself and closer to her friend who was there, so I thought it was better to just leave her for a while.
As a result I went and picked another random girl to dance a song with, somehow she was also a bad dancer although she was latin, but anyway after that I approached my girl again and started dancing right away. She was quite receptive to my leading by that point, and for a while we had a similar pattern of dancing for a bit, her friend coming to check in, some short kisses that sometimes I initiated and sometimes she did, and me telling her generally to rest herself on me, that I am holding her and that I love how crazy fun she is.
At some point in the middle of this we were separated a bit again, next to each other but dancing solo looking at the stage with the music, and a girl I know from my dance classes came next to me from the other side. She greeted me, I greeted back, I danced briefly towards her side, but didn't want to give her too much attention and take it from the other girl. Funny thing is that the moment the song changed, and I reverted my attention to the other girl, I pulled her towards me and she kissed me right away, I suspect because she felt some of the preselection and competition. Also interesting, the girl from my dance class disappeared pretty fast after that, didn't even see her again around me the rest of the night.
( Not ) Closing Time
At that point the party was going towards the end, I had been wearing some quite warm clothing my girl kept mentioning, to which I was replying, that yeah, I am hot, or variations of this, and there was a point after some of our close dances that I told her she is also fucking hot, and a lot of fun for a German girl. I was also having my head very close to hers, breathing heavily through my nose above her ears at a moment, brushing her hair, and even giving her some little kisses on her head sometimes. After having done all that, at some point I told her I really want to steal her from her friend tonight.
Her first reaction to that was to ask me a bunch of questions, like where I am from, what I am doing here etc. I answered them all as clearly as I could, since I felt she just needed more comfort. Then after waiting and dancing for a bit, I told her again I would like to spend more time with her and love her company. The party was ending, and her friend had also told her during one of the times she checked in that she should keep track of it. So she was telling me that she soon needs to go, and that she lives in another city which is one hour and a half away by train, and if she misses the next one she will have to wait too long. I told her I can keep her company until then, and make sure she takes the next one ( after the one that was leaving in half an hour that she wanted ) she will be home early. She asked me where I live, I told her the place, which was around but still needed a train to go to, and she was resisting saying that she has been loving the dancing and the company, but she wants to leave early and it won't work going there and back.
Around then the music stopped completely and she went back looking for her friend, who had been talking to a DJ, having some crush on him if I got it right. Anyway the friend had a general vibe of: Your train leaves then, but you do you, if you wanna stay with this guy do it. Then the friend asked me some quick questions herself about who I am, what I am doing, and if I will take care of her, and I feel I answered pretty clearly and solidly while holding my girl. At that point she told me: Ok, I will take your phone and trust you that you bring her home. I gave my phone, she left a bit further and I really thought that everything was ready for the pull. I even booked my ticket back home online at that moment.
But then as I started moving my girl towards the platform to take the train, the way towards there was passing in front of her friend, and she said she firstly has to stop and say hi to her and her DJ friend. I got introduced to him, and he started talking to my girl, while I started talking more to her friend. It was a quick chat, I felt I came off quite cool, she still had an interrogating vibe, but we talked a bit about dancing, and she trusted me even more. After a bit, I felt we were standing there too much, I looked back and saw my girl just sitting down at a bench. I went and sat next to her, caressing her back with my hand, also went in to give her a kiss when the friend was not looking and managed a short one, but had to manhandle my way in a bit. Then they started talking with her friend about the high heels and how difficult it was to dance with them and I also gave her respect for managing that ( my idea here was to appreciate the feminine essence of the high heels and how sexy they are, don't think I achieved it very well ).
The thing is that something about the pull had started to feel very off. My girl was looking at the timetables of her trains back home on her phone, and I asked her what she was checking and I realised that probably she hadn't completely agreed to coming home with me. I again told her we can go together and I'll make sure she gets back but she was giving me the same objections as before. Then her friend came in telling me that I promised to bring her back to her train, and I told her I promised to bring her back all the way to her place. I was basically trying to construct a situation where I would go to my girl's place, since she didn't seem willing to come to mine. Eventually after few minutes the train she wanted to take was coming, so we three walked together till the platform.
During that she said that I was a great dancer, and although I kept dancing with her she was bad, and I told her that I loved her energy and that's what I care more about. I told her again that I would like to spend more time with her, she seemed firm on wanting to go home now, so I asked for a phone number. She told me her friend has the number and will give it to her, and I said I would also like to have it, because I know how these things work, sometimes you forget, you wake up after having drunk and don't think about it and you never connect. She still didn't want to give it.
At some point during this walk she said something about her high heels again, her friend made a comment, and my girl said something along the lines of: Yeah I am still 39, still have some time in my thirties to enjoy life. Then she turned to me and asked my age, I simply said 27. Then she felt surprised and couldn't believe it for a moment, I stayed unfazed, and as she realised it was the truth, she said she feels like a MILF. I responded a yeah I find it hot, her friend enthusiastically said I am really direct with it, my girl made another small comment about age, I said I don't care, and her friend told her she should just go for it.
After that we were getting very close to the train, I asked for the number one last time or to be sent a text now and got the same response that her friend would give it to her tomorrow, so I didn't pressure her more and when she got in the train I simply gave her a hug wishing a great night.
Then we walked a bit back with her friend, she wanted to go and meet the DJ and I was going towards my train. During that time we had a friendly chat that flowed pretty well, I told her I love how much she takes care of her friend, it was also a bit playful, since she wanted to find a toilet but all the public ones looked closed. Before we parted ways she told me that she really feels I am solid guy ( she didn't use this word, but I don't remember the exact one, it was something similar, not good or nice for sure ), and it did feel like she was approving me for her friend. She even told me in the end something like: See you again, or not exactly. I kinda feel by the way she said it that she meant she would give the phone, but then she realised that even if she does, I will see her friend and not her. When I left I wished a good night and obviously nothing about my phone.
Thoughts
This is it. Just want to mention for the last part that I am not betting on this phone ever reaching the girl, and her texting me back, I guess you never know, but I write off interactions when they go like that. The reason I focused on the discussion about age and with the friend in the end is because I really feel that eventually the friend trusted me and approved of me. And I find that valuable in such scenarios in general. The bad thing is that I had a similar situation about two weeks ago with the friend approving of me, but my girl not coming home eventually.
At least I feel that I was fairly sexual, and quite calibrated this time. Not sure what I could have done differently to get the pull here to be honest. Maybe some even stronger leading with my girl? She really felt very attached to her friend though. Maybe I should have simply taken her and started walking towards a direction opposite to where the friend was after giving my number, to minimise the friend influence, even if it would mean making a circle to reach the platform.
Also not sure what's going on with me and older women, maybe a positive feedback loop at this point. I at least know I come off older, I literally met a girl at the bus going home after this report, I told her my age and she said she was the same age and couldn't believe I was telling the truth.
But it's not that I don't like younger ones, it just feels very difficult for me to get their attention initially in order to even have the chance to game them some more. Maybe I don't come off high authority enough? I have never really been in a high authority position in my life, so I guess I don't have ingrained in me how exactly it would feel. I remember I once street stopped a hot young girl in flashy clothing during the night, and I was surprised that she received me positively, because this approach felt pretty strong for my standards. I generally try to mellow my approaches down to make them warmer, but maybe I am doing it too much with beautiful young girls and it comes off incongruent that I am an older looking guy that is still so friendly with them.
Thanks for everyone taking the time to read, and comments are always welcome.
Extra thoughts:
Something I was thinking after sleeping on it is that I probably didn't connect enough with my girl. I think I got too focused on leading her and making her excited and then on having her friend trust me, that I didn't really get to know my girl on a deeper level. We were dancing a lot, so it felt incongruent to start connecting there, but I could have surely taken her a bit outside the dance floor to talk and come closer. I also noticed the lack of connection, because the first thing she did when I initially told her I wanted to spend more time together was to start asking me about myself. We really didn't know anything about each other.
I would even say I ended up talking to her friend more, and kinda felt we connected, which was not bad by itself, but for some reason I thought that getting the approval of the friend and having my girl hot for me would be enough. So this is something to keep in mind, even during nightgame that apart from getting the girl excited, you have to spend some time to connect, and not assume that you can get away with knowing simple things about each other and answering some questions when they come up towards the end.
I feel my fear was that by taking her away from the dance floor to talk a bit more, I would break the magic of the physical connection we had. But it is probably needed to ground the interaction like this, so that the girl can feel that you are not just sexually excited and find her hot, but you are also interested in her as a person. I suppose there are situations where there may be instant desire by the girl to have sex without connecting a lot, but she clearly wasn't that. She was enjoying dancing close and my leading, but she never went fully into our kisses so I should have realised that if I wanted to pull her I couldn't simply excite her more and more and then lead her out of there, but I had to take some time to connect with her and make her more comfortable making the decision to let herself come and enjoy some time with me.
So even a simple: Hey let's take a quick rest from dancing, and then moving her, isolating her and getting to know her in a more relaxed state is something I will keep in mind for the future.
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