I'd Like to Buy a (Product) Dating App Manager - Does this service exist?

[bobbyb112]

Does this service exist?

I had a business idea for an enterprising person related to dating.

App dating manager/consigliere.

Basically, you charge a client $1k per month, and you manage everything about swiping, messaging, and scheduling dates for the guy through the apps. You could log into their tinder/ bumble/ hinge profile on a computer (as opposed to phone), message them according to time rules and messaging (unique to the client so that you don't get flagged as copying each other), you schedule the dates through a google voice number (so you can manage it on a computer, as opposed to the phone). You set up dates for the guy at the spot of his choice.

If you do this for 10 guys at a time, that's $10k per month, which is $120k per year. You automate a large part of this, because most of it is systematic and formulaic. And the result is that the guy has a date every day of the week. (You could also help him get good pictures through a dating picture photographer). And he doesn't have to spend time swiping/ messaging/ scheduling.

It's genius! Is anyone doing this? I would love to pay for this service. I have a profile that can get matches, I just don't want to spend time swiping, messaging, and schedule. (Have I ascended into new realms of lazy, where I don't even want to spend time on apps to get dates? Lol). The point is, that time is better spent by me on work and making money. And I'd be glad to outsource my app dating process (which is 95% formulaic) to someone else. Someone should provide this service!

Anyone heard of something like this?

 

[Chase]

edit: I misread the OP. I thought @bobbyb112 was inquiring about starting a business like this. He is looking for someone to pay to do it.

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It exists, yeah.

Most prominent one is called Vida Select. They're right in your pricing range ($900/mo) and have a whole team of message people trained to flirt with matches by following along with a handbook, mixing in details about the client's personal life, then set up dates. The real reviews are pretty terrible (here's one | here's a second; second dude spent $10K on them).

Tripp from Tripp Advice has told me he also does this for coaching clients. No idea how his version of it performs. I'm not sure if his coaches handle the messages or they just train you how to reply to messages and you handle it yourself from there.

We've been looking at it as a service to offer as an upsell to buyers of our dating app course Match Bringer when we release that (probably this year). But I'm still debating it... obviously the key is having people who are talented enough at messaging to handle the client's messages for them if you go full self-service, but the thing is most people are awful at messaging (read that second review from the $10K Vida Select client)... anyone smart enough to be good at messaging is going to get sick of messaging other people's matches pretty quick unless you're paying him a fortune, I'd have to imagine.

If you do this for 10 guys at a time, that's $10k per month, which is $120k per year. You automate a large part of this, because most of it is systematic and formulaic. And the result is that the guy has a date every day of the week. (You could also help him get good pictures through a dating picture photographer). And he doesn't have to spend time swiping/ messaging/ scheduling.

I would try to be realistic with myself about the time requirements here.

I'd imagine you're probably going to be spending a couple hours a day on messages per client if the aim is a date per week.

Let's say you can get that down to 1 hr/day though, maybe with automation / effective multi-tasking between clients. Not sure if it's possible to be logged into, say, 10 Tinder, 10 Bumble, and 10 Hinge accounts simultaneously on a single device, but that could maybe make it easier if so. 10 clients = 10 hours a day messaging women while trying to keep it straight in your head whether you are messaging at Ace, Bob, Clive, Devin, Earl, Frank, George, Harvey, Ian, or Jack (10 names). You probably need to do that every day with no days off, too. And that is saying nothing about developing the business: handling the marketing, sales, customer support, other admin.

To me personally that sounds like absolute HELL ITSELF.

Talk about tedium.

Maybe if you've got money you can hire some folks to help out with messages. But the impression I got from reading about Vida Select is their turnover is high, as the work is both draining and mind-numbing. So you will probably be scrambling to replace people often, train up new people, and having to fill in every time another person quits.

Eventually I guess you just give up and start hiring hacks like Vida Select and quit caring about quality (my impression from early stuff I read on them is they initially were sticklers for quality, but somewhere along the line it seems they just gave up and settled for hiring whoever they can get).

(now you see why I am still very UNSURE about Girls Chase offering a service like this!)

Chase

 

[bobbyb112]

Fascinating! I knew something like this must exist.

I guess the biggest difference between my experience with OLD and what is described above is, I use the same text sequence, almost word for word, with every girl I match with, from the first text, through setting up the date. This means there is no skill / talent needed.

In theory, this could make it scalable, since a monkey could send the messages. Then, you can use technology to automate them somehow (maybe some grey-hat VPN stuff, to make sure you don't have 10 accounts logged into the same IP. That's outside my realm of expertise, though, I'm not a programmer).

From a customer results perspective, you'd probably have to make clear expectations about the quality and quantity of dates they could get. Results would depend a lot on 1. photos (a separate or bundled service would be professional dating app photoshoot, which would not be "cheap" (maybe $3-5k to do it right?)) 2. location (bigger the city the better. But still can get results in smaller areas. But bigger cities will always be better).

For myself, if I could pay one person to personally do exactly what I say, using my profile, sending the word-for-word messages I tell them to, at the times I tell them to, then that would be perfect for me. Literally a personal assistant, text sending monkey (that's not what I'd put in the job add, though, lol). No thinking involved.

Anyone reading this want to be my templated text-sending monkey? ;P I'd pay you, of course.

I guess if it would take 1 hour per day, that's 30 hrs per month. At $900 per month, that's $30 per hour. Which would be $60k per year, which is about what most people in the US could make at an entry level job. So maybe I'd have to hire someone overseas like the Philippines, where the money would be worth it.

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This is all a fun thought exercise, but for me, I'm trying to get off the apps and meet girls in real life, to improve my rizz and quality. But to anyone reading this, just know, that with the right pictures and templated app messages, you can get lots of dates with girls you would sleep with but not necessarily want to be your girlfriend! What a time to be alive. Not sure if I'm joking or not.

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Chase - yeah that sounds like a rough business model.


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Edit: I just had an idea. I could hire a programmer to help me implement automation in the browser for the apps.

 

[topcat]

Edit: I just had an idea. I could hire a programmer to help me implement automation in the browser for the apps.

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