Day game problems

[Verisimilitude]

Coming from someone who has never really tried day-game, I'm wondering about how effective it can be on a college campus. My biggest problem with it is that I can simply meet girls at night on the weekends who are much more inclined to be with me. During the day, I would imagine that their guard would be up and I'd come off as creepy. I also don't see the chance of a "sober lay" happening, as most girls on campus either go out and drink before having sex or date multiple times before having sex.

Should I even bother with day game at this stage?

Thanks all

 

[Nuncle]

You will come across as creepy at first. You just have to force yourself to continue doing it, in conjunction with reading Chase's blog/books.

Gradually you will become better at it and therefore more at ease and therefore not creepy.

 

[Garrett]

Coming from someone who has never really tried day-game, I'm wondering about how effective it can be on a college campus. My biggest problem with it is that I can simply meet girls at night on the weekends who are much more inclined to be with me. During the day, I would imagine that their guard would be up and I'd come off as creepy. I also don't see the chance of a "sober lay" happening, as most girls on campus either go out and drink before having sex or date multiple times before having sex.

Should I even bother with day game at this stage?

Thanks all

cccrunner,

At first you may come off a bit creepy mainly because you'll probably be feeling nervous and all. If you approach the girl confidently, with your chest out, walking slowly, and remaining calm/still then you'll give off a more sexual vibe, but that takes practice. The thing is, most girls don't get approached, and the fact that you are complimenting the girl or showing direct interest is ballsy. She'll probably appreciate the effort, and even if you blow the entire pickup, you'll probably make her day. With that being said,if you go to a small campus, you may want to think twice about running day game.

Doing pickup at a small college campus may get awkward, especially if more people find out about you and you may develop a reputation as a creepy/stalker. My suggestion is to go out on the street and do day game, and once your game gets tight,then start picking up the college girls. By doing this, your success rate will increase significantly with experience, so you won't be known as 'the creepy guy' on campus .

Hope that helped,
Garrett

 

[Verisimilitude]

Thanks Garret and Nuncle, I'll work on that...this summer (part of the problem with not having a car on campus and going away for spring break). But when I do, I will keep that in mind.

If either of you is in college, do you use day game? I just see little value in it when I can find the same girls during the night and take them to bed easier.

 

[The Tool]

First off I am strongly against night game at college. Day Game always has been the best for me. And here are the reasons.

Night Game.= Parties=Drunk girls = easier lays..Yes..But wait... In my experiences night game you have ALOT of competition, alot of stimulis, alot of things fighting for the womans attention, as in friends, alchohol, lights, sound, music, other men. And in my opinion the girls I have met during night gave have not been all that attractive usually rate within the 4-7 range. They only look better because they are all dressed up. Yes more women will be open to sex and are infact looking for it at night game. But Like I said the quality id rather have then quantity. (Your options are the girls that show up to the parties so your limited to what is in stock

BIG DISADVANTAGE! UNLESS YOU ARE SOBER! NO DRUGS NO ALCHOLHOL YOUR GAME WILL BE OFF AS WELL. and when im at a party I like to not give a fuck and get a little blazed and or swashbuckled

DAY GAME!! MY PREFERENCE!! Advantages and Disadvantages.

Advantages. Less things fighting for womens attention. especially if she is alone.
If you have your fundamentles down you will have no problem approaching, deep diving, getting her to move with you, and bringing her to a place to escalalte.

YOU GET TO PICK THE CREAM OF THE CROP!! You see an attractive woman you go ahead and approach, not your type? dont approach. You will always find women of higher quality during day game. usually 7-10.

The shock of you being such a sexy powerful man and the fact that most men do not try to escalate during the day will likely give you an advantage because NO MAN HAS DONE IT BEFORE!.

Disadvantages. Not drunk= not as easy to lay, but if your good you can get pretty far. TRUST ME . Your approach essentially has to be perfect or you wil come across as creepy. Thats why I have some good ways to do so in my college game post but outside the school, such as in the yard or dorms I just do the normal "Hey quick question. Are you single? Has worked wonders for myself. Or I do a situational opener such as when I see woman studying "you seem to be slacking over there" said with a sexy smile almost as a joke. Then I continue from there. Also great.

Theres a bit more id like to type but I have to get to class.

Cheers, The Tool

 

[Verisimilitude]

I guess what I'm really surprised by is that girls will want a sober lay when you could just wait until the weekend. That's what I've been doing. i just think the idea of a sober hookup in college is weird.

 

[foxman2]

I am also on a large college campus, but I can relate. I am relatively introverted, and I feel like I have more success at parties, but the way I see it, that's pseudo-confidence induced by alcohol. Day-game is a lot more challenging, but you will see tangible improvement, and you will be in a clearer state of mind.

I got a little tip for improving my day-game:

talk to EVERYONE.

Don't just talk to girls who you want to approach- it's about building a network, and creating social proof. If you can talk to random guys, you will find yourself talking to random girls as well, and won't have to put as much effort in, you will already be in a talkative state. Having said that, you don't need to have heart to hearts with everyone. A simple, "Hi, how are you doing today?" will suffice in getting a conversation started. Talk to the people who work in the cafeterias, the bus driver, the professor, whoever you can. I think of this as warming up before the real game. You will also improve your social skills if you force yourself to do this for long period of time.

You will become far less creepy if you become a more social person in general. After a while, you won't even notice that you are talking to a lot of different women, giving you a lot of different options.

 

[Verisimilitude]

Well the alcohol factor is really for the girls and not for me because I do not drink (I've had troubles with alcohol and I'm taking a break from it). But what I am having the hardest time trying to wrap my head around is that girls would want to hook-up while they are sober. Coming from a guy who's only hooked-up at parties and had trouble with girls in general (and on dinner dates) it seems strange to me, especially when I always wait until the weekend to hook-up.

 

[foxman2]

You don't necessarily have to hook up with them during the day. Ask to meet later, the very day you meet them. You can still try to get her back to your room during the day, in fact, she may resist that step less because it is during the day, so getting her back to your place should be less of a problem. Once you get her back to your place, it's up to you to make the move.

 

[Verisimilitude]

I think I just have to try to have a sober lay and treat it like a regular drunk one and see what happens.
@The Tool: Are there any other ways besides the ones you listed in your post about how to approach women in the day that won't come off as creepy?

 

[The Tool]

Hey cccrunner, I usually open with "Hey quick question are you single?" Has usually worked for me, but when I was begining I did try complaments such as "you have the sexiest walk ive seen all day hi im "the Tool". Or you could try the "survey technique I posted" essentially its not creepy as long as you are attractive and have that sexy confidant vibe. You could even get away with insulting a girl by opening if you have all your fundamentles down although I wouldnt recomend it

 

[Garrett]

Hey cccrunner, I usually open with "Hey quick question are you single?" Has usually worked for me, but when I was begining I did try complaments such as "you have the sexiest walk ive seen all day hi im "the Tool". Or you could try the "survey technique I posted" essentially its not creepy as long as you are attractive and have that sexy confidant vibe. You could even get away with insulting a girl by opening if you have all your fundamentles down although I wouldnt recomend it

Solid tips Tool! Those should workout quite well, although I wouldn't recommend the insult, especially for someone new to the game.

Any guys trying to pickup girls in college, you have to be aware of the fact that you may develop a reputation. I highly suggest you practice outside on the street first, then start picking up at college. You don't want to be known as the creepy approach guy at college. There's this autistic boy at my school, and he approaches almost every girl he meets. The result is practically everyone in my year knows him, and you can tell they feel really uncomfortable when he approaches them. He's not doing anything game-related either/complimenting them, just small talk. Regardless, be careful, and know what you're getting yourselves into (realize), have a plan, be patient, and stick to it! If you're a freshman with little experience, I'd think twice. Wait until summer, do the Newbie Assignment, and carry the momentum into future years in college. Get into a habit of going out at least once a week and meeting girls, even when school starts next year, and you'll gradually get more consistent! Be smart and think about this before aimlessly going to pickup that cute blonde in your Spanish class. Girls talk, and word will get around quick, remember that .

Cheers,
Garrett

 

[Verisimilitude]

Well I'm not a freshman, but I don't have much experience with day game. Perhaps a middle ground would work? Like say I work on "situation day game" people who might be easier to open then just on the street. For example, a girl in a line who isn't talking to anyone, or someone standing by themselves and not doing something else. I think this might make it easier for me to handle my vibe, and won't make me as creepy. And of course, The Tool's "Two birds with one stone" trick.

What do you guys think?