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Discretion Feedback from Girls at School

Paulie Walnuts

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Let me first start off by saying I'm still trying to get to the point where I don't give a shit what anyone (especially girls) thinks of me. I'm getting closer and closer but a side effect I'm dealing with is discretion issues. I wanted to post some feedback I got from a friend of mine (that also worked game at school till he got a girlfriend, though she approached him), apparently one of the girls that I approached that was SUPER into me turned out to be his ex. She ended up telling him about me (never replied to my date text, but still watches all my snapchat stories and is one of the first to view them everytime I post). Basically she said that she saw me hitting on a bunch of other girls (and heard about me hitting on a bunch of other girls) and that's why she never replied and isn't interested anymore.

Dunno if it's true, or she just wasn't that interested in the first place but I'm thinking perhaps negative preselection could have been a factor her, having done 30 approaches in a week at school (not really that much but I was "seen" by people) and getting turned down more than getting the number; could this have been a factor?

Keep in mind though my fundamentals are getting much stronger they're not where they need to be yet, voice still cracks every once in awhile, still get approach anxiety occasionally and I suck with discretion lol. We're getting somewhere but I'm still wary about approaching at school as I don't want to be known as "the approach guy" (at least until my fundamentals are more solid and I'm known as a "sexy man" not a "douchebag").

All good though, just a learning experience haha.
 
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Hector Papi Castillo

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Welcome to the secret that nobody except for players and the girls who see him playing understand - not all preselection is created equal.

Even if you're not approaching girls and they're all throwing themselves at you, at some point, one of those girls is going to say "wow, all these pretty girls like him...no way I can compete..." and they give up.

If you're getting rejected a lot though, and it's clear that you're putting in all the effort, then you're getting the double-whammy: he's a player, but he's not a good one. It's a shitty place to be, but you gotta push past it.

Fuck everybody. Seriously. Don't give a shit what they think about you and remember that this is your life.

That being said, if you want optimal success as a player, you will have to be more selective and discrete. This isn't so much of a "care what people say for egoistic reasons," but "care about what they think for optimization reasons."

If your school is big, you have a lot more leeway. Mine was not and I still got a way with quite a number of day game approaches. 30 approaches in a week, though? Damn dude, that's rad. Good for you. Seems you do go to a big school or you have balls of steel.

If you want to be an approach monster, save most of it for night-time. You can just go around saying "hey." I love direct openers but you can substitute direct verbals with direct non-verbals. Give them bedroom eyes, tilt your head and say "well hello, what's your name?" That way girls can't accuse you of re-using openers (even though compliments aren't canned...they're just compliments). And shit, even if they do, I've had girls call me out on it, say they heard about me approaching a girl, and then they go on a date with me.

Reputation is a tool. Learn how it works and use it to your favor, but don't ever forget that it's just a tool.

Maybe have a cool down period of a few weeks where you're more selective with your approaches, at least on campus, or diversify where you approach on campus. If you're trying to kill AA, do mass approaching in the city you live in or one nearby.

Hector
 

Paulie Walnuts

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Thanks Hector!

Yeah I toned down approaching hardcore at school, maybe made a couple here and there over the past few weeks but as my fundamentals have improved + more abundance mentality (from numerous okcupid coffee dates setup and some daygame at the mall) + phenibut usuage + learning to use more kino, I think I'll try out doing 5-6 on Monday @ school (I only go twice a week anyway, and you're right it's my life, I'm just gonna be a little more careful and optimize my approaches this time rather than being a nutjob approach madman seeking validation from guys who suck with girls anyway, ex. the guys at school who pretend they're good with women but can't even seem to do one approach!)

I've gotten the "Player who's not even good at what he does" reference before when I was running nightclubs, most of the guys (even the one's that got plenty of girls) just assumed I was one of "them" because I was seen as like... (it's hard to describe) a "party god", like I had one of the slickest players from the nightclub/rave/party scene talk to me about how he would use things like "spezznatura", and other tactics that I've read about here (though he was a natural and had no idea what these terms were, I only recognize what he was doing now that I've read the relevant articles and started to put them into practice myself), he'd talk about the hot models from my agency (that I also modeled for) that he'd banged (that I'd tried and had ZERO luck with), then looked at me like I should be telling the same stories. HOWEVER, the girls were ALWAYS able to see through it, or if they weren't after we slept together (once or twice maybe if I was lucky), they'd see it after. It's incredibly interesting to understand now what I was doing wrong the entire time (shitty fundamentals, being needy and desperate, chasing relationships etc.)

My school isn't honestly that big haha, that's probably a big reason I'm getting fucked up the arse with this, so def gotta be a little more careful or go practice on the bigger university campuses, night game is DEF helpful, I've been practicing nonverbals a lot more during daygame and I think it's time to try it during night game tomorrow :).
 
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