Disqualifying yourself as a boyfriend while approaching.

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

So I have recently reached a wall on dates. Just had two dates today, I Converse well, I touched them all over the place, I get them home, I touch her pussy and I kiss them, but we don't have sex. I don't want to flatter myself, but I do sincerely believe that it is because they want to have a relationship with me, because I seem a great interesting guy, even though I do exude a lot lover value.

So I do believe the last piece of the puzzle is disqualifying yourself as a boyfriend and if I do that correctly my statistics will improve drastically. But I also experience some bad conversions from numbers to dates, for example in about 2 hours that I am in the field I approached about 25 girls, I get 7 to 8 numbers, and only about one date.

Can I also improve that conversion telling them right away that I'm not a boyfriend material? For example saying that I'm only in town for 2 weeks, or saying that I don't want relationships, or implying that I'm extremely busy with my work? I ask this because I feel like I need to touch her a little bit and make her learn about my lover value before I disqualify myself as a boyfriend, and if I disqualify myself as a boyfriend too soon where I'm just standing in the coat having just approached her 30 seconds ago she doesn't even know that I'm a sexy man so I will just tank my conversions to dates completely.

 

[isildur1]

So I have recently reached a wall on dates. Just had two dates today, I Converse well, I touched them all over the place, I get them home, I touch her pussy and I kiss them, but we don't have sex. I don't want to flatter myself, but I do sincerely believe that it is because they want to have a relationship with me, because I seem a great interesting guy, even though I do exude a lot lover value.

So I do believe the last piece of the puzzle is disqualifying yourself as a boyfriend and if I do that correctly my statistics will improve drastically. But I also experience some bad conversions from numbers to dates, for example in about 2 hours that I am in the field I approached about 25 girls, I get 7 to 8 numbers, and only about one date.

Can I also improve that conversion telling them right away that I'm not a boyfriend material? For example saying that I'm only in town for 2 weeks, or saying that I don't want relationships, or implying that I'm extremely busy with my work? I ask this because I feel like I need to touch her a little bit and make her learn about my lover value before I disqualify myself as a boyfriend, and if I disqualify myself as a boyfriend too soon where I'm just standing in the coat having just approached her 30 seconds ago she doesn't even know that I'm a sexy man so I will just tank my conversions to dates completely.

First of all 25 girls to get 7 numbers to one date isn't necessarily bad as game is full of variance - that could've been bad variance - i've had periods of 6 bad dates in a row followed by 2 first date lays so variance plays a big roll in daygame there are are always lucky streaks and streaks of badluck

Telling them that you'r e not boyfriend material is putting yourself in the fuck boy zone and may come across like you're using them for sex i wouldn't recommend it - a lot of women out there want LTRs and don't want to be pumped and dumped - there were alot of occasions during first dates were i'd physically escalate then the girl would give lmr and not want to see me again because they felt i was just trying to pump and dump them.

maybe you're coming across as too much a fuck boy - whenever women deny sex on the first date it's important to make plans to see them again - reframe it "oh its cool that you're not that type of girl lets go do something next week i got a nice bar in my town to show you"

That way she sees more long term investment from you instead of a hookup - when i started daygame i fucked up by escalating too soon i had around 8 instances where i made out too quick or got her to my room too quick - in reality if i spread it over 2-3 dates i think it would've worked out more organically and i wouldnt have to have dealt with the lmr.

Also if you do sleep with them - buy them breakfast the next day - again it shows you have ltr potential and doesn't make them feel used. When i started i was too impatient always wanting quick sex- if i'd played things cooler and been more patient i'd had have had a lot more lays

 

[isildur1]

This is a quote from liam mcrae’s book as to why I think the idea of immediately disqualifying yourself as a bf is bad


Does a car salesman say “Hi, I’m Mark. Welcome to Porsche! Just to be 100 percent honest my job is to make you feel cool and make you need this expensive sports car by associating it with sex, status and power. I don’t actually want to be friends with you. I just want your money.” Does a doctor say “Hi, welcome to the hospital. You know people die here? Your relative is old as fuck. They’re gonna die, and then you’re gonna burn their body. Or bury it so it rots in the ground! Just being honest.” Of course not. While both of those things are unspoken truths, there is no reason to say them out loud. More classic mistakes: Telling the girl you don’t want a relationship; Assuming she wants commitment; Assuming she knows precisely what she wants and speculating on whether you can give it; Worrying about giving ‘the wrong impression’ on the first date before you’ve even slept with her or kissed her;
This also brings up another social myth: that all women who so much as talk to a man want to marry him, and he has to extract sex secretly. Not all girls want a boyfriend. And assuming she does is disrespectful. Most people don’t even know what they want. Their future projections are based on a mish-mash of social conventions, dating clichés from movies, things their friends have said, and their interpretation of past experiences. Limiting women to a romantic ideal of ‘all girls want one man to commit to them’ is a sure way to end relationships early before you’ve even had a chance to explore the other person or see how your unique relationship with that person evolves.