Do Women Try To Trap You With Pregnancy?

[TomInHo]

Okay, so I've observed a trend in my relationships and wondering if this is common

I'm openly non-monogamous with all my girls, and I've noticed a lot of them show signs of wanting to have my babies. They start talking about children, probing my views on having a family and trying to have more unprotected sex.. and they keep probing when I tell them I don't want to start a family until I'm 69 years old

In an extreme case, one of Ex-MLTRs woke me up by riding my cock raw when I clearly stated I was not a fan of that. She claimed she was on the pill which I knew was a lie so had to hard next her

Why I'm confused is because these women know I probably won't stick around, and quite a few of them raged about how they never wanted to have kids or don't want any right now but their actions say otherwise.

This happened to me when I was dirt broke and also when I became more financially stable so don't think it's because they view me as a provider.

So my question... is it a common occurrence for women to use pregnancy to trap you if they feel like you won't fully commit?

And also, what are some other sneaky/manipulative tactics that girls use to try to trap you?

 

[Skills]

Okay, so I've observed a trend in my relationships and wondering if this is common

I'm openly non-monogamous with all my girls, and I've noticed a lot of them show signs of wanting to have my babies. They start talking about children, probing my views on having a family and trying to have more unprotected sex.. and they keep probing when I tell them I don't want to start a family until I'm 69 years old

In an extreme case, one of Ex-MLTRs woke me up by riding my cock raw when I clearly stated I was not a fan of that. She claimed she was on the pill which I knew was a lie so had to hard next her

Why I'm confused is because these women know I probably won't stick around, and a quite a few of them raged about how they never wanted to have kids or not want any right now but there actions say otherwise.

This happened to me when I was dirt broke and also when I became more financially stable so don't think it's because they view me as a provider.

So my question... is it a common occurrence for women to use pregnancy to trap you if they feel like you won't fully commit?

And also, what are some other sneaky/manipulative tactics that girls use to try to trap you?

Correct number 1 go to method

 

[TomInHo]

Correct number 1 go to method

Got it!

Curious what I could be doing to cause this. Because 2 of my best friends also run open relationships but don't seem to run into this problem as frequently as I do

 

[DoWhatWorks]

First off kudos, you're dealing with a high quality problem.

Which means you're doing something right. I suspect it's due to:


1. Age of women you're dealing with. Saw your last LR was 29 which is prime "I've finished having fun, want to settle down/have babies" age.

2. Girl seeing your potential (when you were broke) and the realized potential (now you're more financially stable)

Potential counts for a lot and I think guys in general downplay its effect on women.

To one of your points:

I'm openly non-monogamous with all my girls, and I've noticed a lot of them show signs of wanting to have my babies.

3. Non-Mono doesn't mean no babies in the girl's mind. Hell if she's the modern type that gives her the best of both! Fulfil my instagram babyshower fantasies with a good looking provider AND still get to fuck on the side???

Let's get pregnant now...

Especially with your nuanced game they obviously feel like they'll still get a lot of their needs meet through you.

is it a common occurrence for women to use pregnancy to trap you if they feel like you won't fully commit?

Depends on your level of status in their eyes and the type of girl you're dealing with. Look what happened to Drake lol.

what are some other sneaky/manipulative tactics that girls use to try to trap you?

Emotional womanese to betaize you.

Typically starts with "I feel like" blah blah "boundaries" blah blah "emotional needs" blah blah.

9/10 this nips it in the bud: "I totally understand, this is who I am and if that's not right for you and you need to end things, I'll be sorry to see you go but will understand and my door will remain open if you change your mind"

Curious what I could be doing to cause this. Because 2 of my best friends also run open relationships but don't seem to run into this problem as frequently as I do

My educated guess is they're less long term prospects than you're and lean even more lover. I.E fuck other girls & stay quiet vs mature open relationship dynamics

Am I right in saying they encounter that less but you have better/longer retention than them?

 

[TomInHo]

First off kudos, you're dealing with a high quality problem.

Which means you're doing something right. I suspect it's due to:


1. Age of women you're dealing with. Saw your last LR was 29 which is prime "I've finished having fun, want to settle down/have babies" age.

2. Girl seeing your potential (when you were broke) and the realized potential (now you're more financially stable)

Good point, but I also get this from women as young as 19. It's crazy because my behavior is *NOT* providerish IMO

- I rarely spend money on them

- Sometimes I actually make money from my relationships indirectly from the gifts, trips and dates they take me on. They pay most of the time and I split the bill 25% of the time

- They know I'm sleeping with other women. There's nothing implicit about my relationships... it's hella explicit

- I frame the relationship as "Secret Society" and tell them to go find a good husband

- Our relationships revolve mostly around sex and little else. Shit we barely even watch TV together

3. Non-Mono doesn't mean no babies in the girl's mind. Hell if she's the modern type that gives her the best of both! Fulfil my instagram babyshower fantasies with a good looking provider AND still get to fuck on the side???

Let's get pregnant now...

Especially with your nuanced game they obviously feel like they'll still get a lot of their needs meet through you.

I get that, but why not do that with a guy thats safer?

Depends on your level of status in their eyes and the type of girl you're dealing with. Look what happened to Drake lol.

To be fair, I do have a decently sized social media presence so this may be causing the provider fantasies

Emotional womanese to betaize you.

Typically starts with "I feel like" blah blah "boundaries" blah blah "emotional needs" blah blah.

9/10 this nips it in the bud: "I totally understand, this is who I am and if that's not right for you and you need to end things, I'll be sorry to see you go but will understand and my door will remain open if you change your mind"

Actually, a lot of my girls are scared to be too direct with this. They always do subtle things to try and get me to invest more but rarely go into overt means. It's their actions that tell me their motives rather than their actions

 

[TomInHo]

My educated guess is they're less long term prospects than you're and lean even more lover. I.E fuck other girls & stay quiet vs mature open relationship dynamics

Am I right in saying they encounter that less but you have better/longer retention than them?

My 2 friends are also open about their setups, but I do have more status than them currently. And also experienced the same locking down issue when we were in the same socioeconomic class.

And yes I do have very good retention. Longest relationship has been 8 years with quite a few breaks in between because she wanted the real boyfriend experience

 

[DoWhatWorks]

I think this and your social media presence explains it:

because my behavior is providerish IMO

Provider behaviors isn't just money. It can also be how attentive and warm you're. It's great for retention but sucks for girls wanting more investment... It's just the trade off you make.

Also the type of girls who're drawn to social media are also the same type more likely to be drawn into the fantasy/happily ever after story so would love to win you over and be the girl that's tagged in your next picture.

This is why they don't do this:

I get that, but why not do that with a guy thats safer?

Why settle for a guy who's safer if you haven't at least tried to lock down the guy you actually want? (it's emotional not logical)

Actually, a lot of my girls are scared to be too direct with this. They always do subtle things to try and get me to invest more

This also explains why they're going for hail mary get pregnant tactics. It's kind of like the female equivalent of an incel shooting up a school lol.

No real solutions only trade offs here:

1. Show more attainability I.E "I may have 1 girl, 1 day" which may reduce pregnancy attempts but will increase nagging
2. Be more fuckboy/ reckless I.E "if I got a girl pregnant, that's her problem I'll ghost as I don't want kids" retention & attempts will go down
3. Keep doing what you're doing and accept it's just part of the path you've gone down

Hope that helps

 

[TomInHo]

I think this and your social media presence explains it:



Provider behaviors isn't just money. It can also be how attentive and warm you're. It's great for retention but sucks for girls wanting more investment... It's just the trade off you make.

My bad.. mean't to say I'm not 100% Providerish. Because I admit that I'm warm but I also act quite reckless. They tell me "You're so bad" then minutes later tell me "You're actually nice"

I guess the mixed signals might play into it, so have a decent blend of both lover and provider qualities.

Also the type of girls who're drawn to social media are also the same type more likely to be drawn into the fantasy/happily ever after story so would love to win you over and be the girl that's tagged in your next picture.

This is why they don't do this:

Makes sense. This is also why I hide my social media before I get the lay. They usually have no idea I have a big following until after 2-3 lays

Why settle for a guy who's safer if you haven't at least tried to lock down the guy you actually want? (it's emotional not logical)

Makes sense

This also explains why they're going for hail mary get pregnant tactics. It's kind of like the female equivalent of an incel shooting up a school lol.

No real solutions only trade offs here:

1. Show more attainability I.E "I may have 1 girl, 1 day" which may reduce pregnancy attempts but will increase nagging
2. Be more fuckboy/ reckless I.E "if I got a girl pregnant, that's her problem I'll ghost as I don't want kids" retention & attempts will go down
3. Keep doing what you're doing and accept it's just part of the path you've gone down

Hope that helps

This helps a lot.

Guess I could go with...

#1 But concerned it may not be congruent with my actions.
#2 But feel its kinda impossible because they can track me down with my social media if I get them prego.
#3 Guess I'll just have to accept my fate and consider a vasectomy or putting hot sauce in my condoms

 

[trashKENNUT]

Man has to let go.

Let go of his beliefs ('love'/MLTR/female). It's hard. Not gonna lie.
The natural of causality and source of power for creation is object + feel (belief/love/female), thus resulting in this traps and tricks.

TLDR: Good job on hard next. And for the guys, another reason why FWBs are a problem if long term.
Unless you screening all FWBs like exams.

z@c+

 

[Lover]

So my question... is it a common occurrence for women to use pregnancy to trap you if they feel like you won't fully commit?

This comes down to two things: how bad does she want babies? And how bad can you make her want them with you?

If she wants babies no matter what, she will try some of these sketches with you no matter what. Her purpose is simply to reproduce. You could do - or NOT do - your whole unstable guy framing, and it wouldn't matter.

There is also the possibility that you draw out those instincts in them to reproduce with you. And the harder you do the unstable guy framing, the more she will try to "beat" that frame, whether she is conscious or unconscious about this. Pretty much a case of every force having an opposite and equal reaction.

But in my experience, no not common at all... they might feel the instinct to reproduce with me and mention babies here and there but respect my choice to not want the same thing at that moment. Maybe that is a strategy as well, to convince me over the long term??

And also, what are some other sneaky/manipulative tactics that girls use to try to trap you?

One friend has a story about a crazy girl with a ticking biological clock. They were at her place. She went for the condom he just threw out and tried to insert his sperm into herself.

I also know another friend that was close to breaking up with girlfriend. But then she got pregnant, and he decided to stay. I dont know the full story but I wonder if she tricked him as well because he doesn't come across as the provider type either.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Her purpose is simply to reproduce. You could do - or NOT do - your whole unstable guy framing, and it wouldn't matter

*This

Sidenote:
Personal thoughts:
Before internet:
Females thinking of breaking up in months years.
After the internet: Females thinking of breaking up in day

Man are confused. What's going on?

Zac conclusion:
1)Phase of. And
2)Females have always been like that. Zac and Girlschase are the frontier of reading female nature. The internet exposes this phenomenon what Zac called this as the 'Beliefs Turnover'.

That turnover (states) is now moving in secs. Not yrs.

z@c+

 

[Skills]

Tons of speculation and none sense... does not matter age, remember teen moms mtv....

Does not matter if poly or mono... if poly worst to lock you down.

Usually that is women hail marry when they are about to get dump.

Women hail marrys:

- suicide threads

- prego crap

New gen z false rape threat

P.s. If they get prego and sleeping with multiple dudes... they may blame to more life together and best baby potential of the bunch..

P.s.2. A lot of women sleep with no condom just cause it feel better nothing to do with wanting to get prego to lock you down... causation correlation.. i bang 98% of women raw

 

[DarkKnight]

Usually that is women hail marry when they are about to get dump.

Women hail marrys:

- suicide threads

- prego crap

Yeah... I recall a time I took this shit seriously. Looong long time ago. So accurate. Especially with crazies.

 

[DoWhatWorks]

This is also why I hide my social media before I get the lay.

Forgot to mention... Small tweak that could make a big difference, hide social media permanently.

If she asks say I use it for business so like to keep things separate as I’ve had bad experiences/stalkers in the past (which in your case is probably true)

 

[DoWhatWorks]

They usually have no idea I have a big following until after 2-3 lays

Forgot to mention... Small tweak that could make a big difference, hide social media permanently.

If she asks say I use it for business & like to keep things separate as I’ve had bad news experiences/stalkers in the past

(which in your case is probably true)

i bang 98% of women raw

Hahaha ffs let’s not normalise this

Think I’m the only guy left here who uses condoms 90% of the time & has never had a STI

#PrayForNoPapi’s

 

[TomInHo]

Forgot to mention... Small tweak that could make a big difference, hide social media permanently.

If she asks say I use it for business & like to keep things separate as I’ve had bad news experiences/stalkers in the past

(which in your case is probably true)

I used to try and hide it permanently, but girls always seem to find it somehow. For example, one of the girls I'm seeing started using the slang I use in my videos. But I never talk like that in real life, so knew she found my stuff

Heck I just got a girl, that I had a ONS with months ago with, reach out to me yesterday because one of her friends follows me on social media.

But maybe I could do a better job at hiding it, just don't know how

 

[Lobo]

Ig girls just do this when they really like you.

I had a similar situation to you when i was still in college and one of the girls in my rotation knew that I talked to a lot of girls.

I also limited seeing her to once a month.

Anyways, while fucking her the condom exploded and i was absolutely flabbergasted by how calm and collected she was about the situation.

Like she even told me she didn't need to take plan b.

And i know my virility, my dad has 10 children for fucks sake.

I had to have a 10 minute serious conversation with lots of future pacing and framing to get her to understand how catastrophic this situation was. Went to the cvs at 2 am and made certain she swallowed the plan b.

Never trust a horny girl...

Still have nightmares to this day about a random phone call.

 

[trashKENNUT]

girls just do this when they really like you.

she even told me she didn't need to take plan b.

made certain she swallowed the plan b

Never trust a horny girl...

Right...

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

Okay, so I've observed a trend in my relationships and wondering if this is common

I'm openly non-monogamous with all my girls, and I've noticed a lot of them show signs of wanting to have my babies. They start talking about children, probing my views on having a family and trying to have more unprotected sex.. and they keep probing when I tell them I don't want to start a family until I'm 69 years old

In an extreme case, one of Ex-MLTRs woke me up by riding my cock raw when I clearly stated I was not a fan of that. She claimed she was on the pill which I knew was a lie so had to hard next her

Why I'm confused is because these women know I probably won't stick around, and quite a few of them raged about how they never wanted to have kids or don't want any right now but their actions say otherwise.

This happened to me when I was dirt broke and also when I became more financially stable so don't think it's because they view me as a provider.

So my question... is it a common occurrence for women to use pregnancy to trap you if they feel like you won't fully commit?

And also, what are some other sneaky/manipulative tactics that girls use to try to trap you?

Not much else I can add to this but an anecdote.

There is a rule where I’m from that you are considered common law married if you live at a residence for a period of time.

Friend let this girl who was going to college live with him for three years and he broke up with her and ended up getting sued for alimony.

Then guys who’ve gotten HIV from hook ups are forever bitter to this day that they have it.

As anybody will say I have found myself more than ever very careful and calculated when dealing with women. In older age ive lost my lasseiz faire abilities and have become well guarded instead.

The winning hand is often the person who views long term possibilities and plans for them and assess risks from short term possibilities for what is profitable.

Now this is the real dark triad game part, was eating dinner so correct me if I’m wrong might be different rules depending on where you are from.

A lot of single mothers out there. Some men just simply fuck these women, get them pregnant, don’t show up to have the baby certificate signed and never pay any money. It’s a legitimate strategy if you want to have kids.

I imagine there are some sneaky ways they’ll try to catch you for paternity but if these women were smart in the first place they wouldn’t be single mothers.

So if you want to have kids but not take care of them that’s the route I’d go.

 

[trashKENNUT]

There is a rule where I’m from that you are considered common law married if you live at a residence for a period of time.

John Cena made Nikki Bella signed a contract that when she stays with him at his house.

She is basically a guest.

Rubber hits the road. Girlschase has to address this. Everyone will be hitting that rubber soon. Greed. Greed. Greed. I see younger millennials and Generation Z having their cognitive dissonance on TikTok and it's funny, sad because they are hypocrites.

z@c+