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"Do you always do this?"- Shit test question

Mr.Rob

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I think all of us daygamers have had this one thrown at us at least a couple of times if not every outing at least once. I sure do get it a lot. You know you go approach a cutie on the street or at the mall and get into having a good interaction. Then at some point she gets caught out of the moment or the previous conversation thread dies and she asks "So.. do like always come hit on random girls?". It's obviously a shit test and I usually try and go the route of either a witty or evasive answer. A lot of times I answer something along these lines.
Her: "So do you always hit on random girls?"
Me: "Unsuspecting sounds better, but no... just the ones that happen to match what I consider my preferred body type."
or
Her: "Do you always do this?"
Me: "Do what? Socialize? Yeah I quite enjoy not being a social recluse locked away in my parents basement... What about you?"

Something along these lines. I usually pass these shit tests these days but am looking for a more suave, smooth, maybe charismatic way of going about this and curious as to how the rest of you prefer to answer this question.

Cheers, Rob.
 

NarrowJ

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I actually like both of those examples. Here's my favorite response to that question:

"Better question. Do you always pick up boys when you [go shopping/are at work/etcetera]?

They usually laugh and say something like "nope, first one! Haha" and are either oblivious that I just turned it around on them, or they just get a kick out of how clever I am =)
 

Mr.Rob

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I feel like how you reverse the frame by saying "A better question.." makes it seem like in her head that it's actually a more relevant question even though it's not (since she didn't approach). Kind of a paradox but throws her off which is the main thing. Most girls expect most guys to be like "uhh, no I just uhhh, thought uhh (Everything would go according to the script in my head),EJECT dun dun dun." or simply be honest if there not kooks. But we as GC cohorts go the next step further and derail her auto pilot by reversing the frame and making it seem we're the normal ones. Yeah right us normal? Whats normal again? That thing that weird people with no direction take part in I think.

Also, for whoever has made it this far on my comment, I was digging into zphix's old posts and found this socially smooth gem relating to the subject.
Her: "So you do this type of thing all the time?"
Me: "If by this, you mean socialize, then yes."
Her: "I mean, what do men call it, 'pick up women?'"
Me: "Nope, I don't always pick up women, but when I do, I prefer to use my arms"
Her: she was getting frustrated... "I mean, seduce women, have sex with them, use them!"
Me: "Believe it or not... that's a touchy subject for me... I hate guys that abuse women..."
Her: "You're just saying that..."
Me: "Believe what you want. I came over here to talk to you because I saw you smile at me, and because I enjoy talking with people."
 

Ross

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I'm personally not a fan of acting silly about this type of thing. Mostly, it's a genuine concern; she wants to know if you constantly approach women.

I'm a big fan of outframing her in the interaction to allow her to not hold that fear that you are some creepy guy who approaches women just to have sex with them.

Her: "So do you always hit on random girls?"

You: Hit on is so cliche; it has this negative energy about it. I like to meet new people and share new, exciting experiences.

This way you can avoid a messy conversation, like the example of Zphix's. You cut out all that exchanging of words and instead reframe it so that you approaching people is a positive thing, not a negative. Your not playing into the dialogue; instead, you address the emotion that is being portrayed in the shit test. Done and done; she may shit test you further, but I found that counteracting a shit test with a reply that helps with the emotion displayed rather than the actual logic of answering her question will more often than not lead to high levels of attraction, meaning you should pull/move right after she is satisfied with her tests.
 

Richard

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You cut out all that exchanging of words and instead reframe it so that you approaching people is a positive thing, not a negative

I really like this a lot!

I know Ross is a huge proponent of rock-hard frame control, but I remember somebody else also mentioning this idea of re-framing, can't for the life of me think who it was though.

Anyway, I'm a proponent of emotional control, and this gets the job done splendidly.
 

Mr.Rob

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Ross thank you for your comment. You really struck a tangent I failed to even recognize or acknowledge. I never thought of the question as being something of an emotional concern for women, I simply assumed that it was a question directed at the man to expose his strength on the spot. Although based on what you said Ross
I found that counteracting a shit test with a reply that helps with the emotion displayed rather than the actual logic of answering her question will more often than not lead to high levels of attraction
it seems the main route of the question is the emotional concern of this seemingly charming guy to be some creepy, sleazy dirtbag, with the second concern being a test of how actually strong the man in question is. So good on the girls for killing two birds with one stone.

I really like how you turn it into a positive thing by actually being honest by separating yourself from PUA's and then shedding light on the actual positivity of the situation. Brilliant! It would have taken me a while to find this the correct way to handle the concern by myself. Handling this emotional concern correctly is now a short term goal of the week. Appreciate the wisdom dude!
 

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Her: "Do you always do this?"
Me: "Do what? Socialize? Yeah I quite enjoy not being a social recluse locked away in my parents basement... What about you?"
Well in that case you're passing two tests; you're firstly showing her that you're not embarrassed about the fact that she knows you approach random bangable females when out and about. She may view this as a red flag, but if you demonstrate enough value in other ways she will be willing to forgive you for that. But secondly you'd rather the girl think you're approaching her like this as a once off, and that you don't normally meet girls in this way.

So it's a good reply, and I'm sure it works, but it's not perfect. I somehow feel it's possible to come up with a better reply. Of course it's not socialising, in the same way if an attractive girl started being all friendly to some random fat dude, you'd suspect she's trying to scam him.
 
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