Does a true PUA have to worry about Shitting where he Eats?

[metomeya]

Hey guys,

I hear a lot of people talking about not shitting where you eat. Does a guy who has his shit together have to worry about this? I can only think of really two instances where you have to worry about this

1.) People give you shit for what you did and lost of potential mates (I can't believe you slept with that slut! What a loser she shot you down!).
2.) Awkwardness.

Its just I feel like I go so far out of my way to make sure I don't shit where I eat, it becomes a huge drain on time and resources!

Just wondering how the advanced people who are getting laid a lot handle it. Or does it even cross your mind?

 

[Franco]

metomeya,

If by "shitting where you eat" you are referring to picking up women in the work place (or other place of regular attendance), then no, I don't worry about it... because I don't do it!

It's always risky picking up women in a place where you have other things on the line (especially your career). Now, that's not to say you can't do it, but you better be very well aware of the consequences of what could happen should things go awry.

If you have a solid abundance mentality and a good grasp over approach anxiety, then you'll most likely realize that it's just not worth the risk to pick up in the workplace (or any other place where you need to interact with the same people on a regular basis). I love meeting women in a cold approach environment because I know there will be no ties to my personal life if things don't go as planned.

- Franco

 

[trashKENNUT]

metomeya,

Just wondering how the advanced people who are getting laid a lot handle it. Or does it even cross your mind?

Society will fuck you down if they don't like you, and if you let them. In a workplace and places you interact often, play the subtle game, don't bring up your personal life and don't joyfully celebrate your girl's personal life if she tries to flirt with you in a workplace. Just do what you do, and don't involve business deals with personal lifes and rewards like sex.

I played the "good guy", "religious guy", and i been fucked too. So it doesn't matter, Humans can sometimes, if not often, insecure. They will always give labels.

Zac

 

[metomeya]

Thanks Franco,

I think that was the answer I was looking for.

 

[PinotNoir]

After working in an office environment for the past 3-4 years where inter-office relations is acceptable, here are my thoughts:

If a girl and guy begin a relationship, then I very rarely see problems. Even if the relationship ends, they can usually both be mature about it -- except for that 1 crazy girl that you have to watch out for.

If a girl and guy hook up with no relationship following, this usually ends in disaster. If you're going to sleep with a girl at work, realize that the expectations are going to be very high for a relationship. I think this is similar to social circle dating. Again, there will be 1 or 2 girls that are the exception. Even if you're a bad boy, she will be around you enough at work for this to dissipate from her thoughts (the mystery is gone) and will eventually still have high expectations for a relationship.

In an office environment, people are generally older and more mature. If it's at a part-time job while you're young, I wouldn't really worry about it -- except for during interviews. If you get fired, you'll just go work at another pizzeria or wherever.

If money is really tight and jobs limited, best not to chance it.

 

[metomeya]

PinotNoir that is really great advice!

Hope the young guys (especially nerdy ones with limited social intelligence) just starting college and getting career/office type jobs read it.

 

[Marty]

If you have a solid abundance mentality and a good grasp over approach anxiety, then you'll most likely realize that it's just not worth the risk to pick up in the workplace

Utterly true but if you don't yet have abundance due to still being in the learning process, it can be very difficult to resist when a girl starts making eyes at you and giving little coy smiles... especially if she's a lot younger (10+ years). And actually once your approach anxiety is gone due to lots of cold approaching it makes it even more tempting to act.

It has been a constant theme of my current job that younger women have started teasing to goad me into action, then running off when I pursue. It's happened at least four times in just six months... two married girls, one single, and one, would you believe it, who is engaged.

See my posts on Maintaining power-derived value through the opening, and TightJeansGirl for a very blatant example.

I have no complaint though... this has given me useful reference data and opportunities for learning!

 

[Estate]

Franco nailed it.

I don't see why you WOULD want to. It's such a terrible trait of Pickup "arts" that guys think social rules and norms no longer apply to them. If you igore them you are not above anyone, you're just being an asshole.

If we go with the workplace scenario... to want to go after someone in such a situation just to sleep with her is truely coming from a place of neediness, like you're trying to prove something to yourself. It's so easy to go outside the door of your office and see 100 women walking around who are probably 10 times better than the one you insist on chasing. Why is it worth it?

 

[metomeya]

Just saw the new article by Drexel that covers this more or less.

I still agree with Franco that it is still too risky...but sometimes the risky stuff is the most fun

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-have-sex-coworkers-and-get-laid-work

Enjoy

 

[Motiv]

The same thing that's necessary for Girl A to fall for you, can cause Girl B to file a suit against you.

It's not about you.

This...!

This is what scares me the most as a beginner. I worked with a mentor in my professional field for over thirteen years, and part of his "life-lesson" training involved scaring the shit out of me about women: that they were all Girl B, just waiting to trap me in a suit. Obviously, this is not true, but it's the crux of my challenge at this point in time. I'm curious to see how much further I can get if I "max out" passive fundamentals (body language, fashion, and getting into muscular shape). I'll have to report back in a few months on the last part, but I am already part-way there with a personal trainer right now. I'm hoping strong enough passive traits will help screen in the women looking for physical relationships...

 

[metomeya]

Its what Drexel said,

In my experience, women who would do that kind of stuff always had a red flag. Unless you are a complete social goof and you do something that would alarm normal people without meaning to (I've been there).

But the latter would rarely result in a lawsuit just a shunning. Unless you are guy:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/tv-news-...r-arrested-finally-drops-charges-before-xmas/