Most men believe the key to getting top high quality girls is to have a lot more money and then everything will be easy and lots of girls will fall for you... I used to believe this and thot it was my only hope and option if i ever wanted to date hot girls... I try to not believe in this but It seems everywhere I go guys believe this and they talk about it a lot which forces me to begin to believe it again. Somehow it seems true somehow it seems not true... I posted this in the advanced section so I can hear from guys who are advanced in seduction... Will more money make a guy get more girls and hot girls? Lets say you dont study seduction and then you suddenly start making more money than the average guy. Will getting girls especially hot gilrs be more easy to you compared to the average guy or not?
I got a number from a really hot girl and when I texted her the 1st question she asked me was "so what do you do?". I know it was a way to find out how much money I make As if how much money I make is what makes me a man or not. I told her am a bus driver (which is very low paying in my country) I lied to her coz i dint wanna tell her exactly what I do. But then after hearing that am a bus driver, she stopped responding to my text messages. Whats goin on?
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Cassy,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLjvzs6KVo
I think RSDTyler explained this very well!
I don't think having more money makes you more attractive to women in general. Although there are materialistic girls who do look for rich guys, so that would be the type of women you attract if you're spending a lot of money on women before you sleep with them. At the end of the day, do you want girls like you for you? or for your money?
Just because most men believe in that, it does not make it true. It's what the society's telling every guy to do. I have friends who are studying to become doctors, and they think once they graduate, girls will fall for them....but from my experience that does not work at all (or they don't get the women they always tell themselves they would get). Frankly, that kind of mentality is what I've heard since I was in high school as well.
I think learning game is actually easier than earning a million dollars. (I may be wrong here lol you might think making money is easier) There's no way you can just make a million dollar and hot girls will instantly become easier. You still have to seduce her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLjvzs6KVo
I think RSDTyler explained this very well!
I don't think having more money makes you more attractive to women in general. Although there are materialistic girls who do look for rich guys, so that would be the type of women you attract if you're spending a lot of money on women before you sleep with them. At the end of the day, do you want girls like you for you? or for your money?
Cassy said:
Just because most men believe in that, it does not make it true. It's what the society's telling every guy to do. I have friends who are studying to become doctors, and they think once they graduate, girls will fall for them....but from my experience that does not work at all (or they don't get the women they always tell themselves they would get). Frankly, that kind of mentality is what I've heard since I was in high school as well.
Cassy said:
I think learning game is actually easier than earning a million dollars. (I may be wrong here lol you might think making money is easier) There's no way you can just make a million dollar and hot girls will instantly become easier. You still have to seduce her.
Good points, also:
"Will more money make a guy get more girls and hot girls?"
The simple answer is no, but reality is more complicated. We all like money, and unless a person decides to live in some monastery as a monk or nun, he or she needs money to have decent life. Who says that he doesn't need money is simply in denial - not having enough money to pay for rent, food, clothes and so forth will not make anyone happy... Having enough money brings comfort, but at the same time, what does it really mean 'enough'? It varries from person to person...
So money is important, but money is not the only factor. Perhaps a better way to look at a a person is to look at "the whole package". I'm going to omit the whole lover vs provider thing, but let's just assume that smart and hot girl is looking for long term relationship.
Will she go for a guy that makes money only? No, unless she's a gold digger. Will she look for sexy guy only? No, unless she wants to have NSA sex only. And so forth, there is lots of variables to consider...
When you actually see classy girl hot, smart and educated - you won't be surprised that she is around top guys. These guys are also educated, they have well paying jobs, they have good social circle... Also, having money doesn't necessary mean that the guy is not sexy or attractive, there are plenty of guys who make good money and are attractive...
So when we take two guys to compare, and assuming that everything else including attraction is pretty much the same, would she go for the guy who has less money? I don't think so...
"Will more money make a guy get more girls and hot girls?"
The simple answer is no, but reality is more complicated. We all like money, and unless a person decides to live in some monastery as a monk or nun, he or she needs money to have decent life. Who says that he doesn't need money is simply in denial - not having enough money to pay for rent, food, clothes and so forth will not make anyone happy... Having enough money brings comfort, but at the same time, what does it really mean 'enough'? It varries from person to person...
So money is important, but money is not the only factor. Perhaps a better way to look at a a person is to look at "the whole package". I'm going to omit the whole lover vs provider thing, but let's just assume that smart and hot girl is looking for long term relationship.
Will she go for a guy that makes money only? No, unless she's a gold digger. Will she look for sexy guy only? No, unless she wants to have NSA sex only. And so forth, there is lots of variables to consider...
When you actually see classy girl hot, smart and educated - you won't be surprised that she is around top guys. These guys are also educated, they have well paying jobs, they have good social circle... Also, having money doesn't necessary mean that the guy is not sexy or attractive, there are plenty of guys who make good money and are attractive...
So when we take two guys to compare, and assuming that everything else including attraction is pretty much the same, would she go for the guy who has less money? I don't think so...
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Cassy,
This article should help you with that:
https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-a ... hat-you-do
-John
Cassy said:
This article should help you with that:
https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-a ... hat-you-do
-John
Interesting story:
a friend of a friend was giving out his phone number written behind a "withdrawal receipt" of 60.000 Euros.
Not a single woman didn't call him back.
HOWEVER it's a story I heard from a guy who swore it was his friend who did it.
Might be true.. Just can't personally vouch on it
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a friend of a friend was giving out his phone number written behind a "withdrawal receipt" of 60.000 Euros.
Not a single woman didn't call him back.
HOWEVER it's a story I heard from a guy who swore it was his friend who did it.
Might be true.. Just can't personally vouch on it
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Money makes you more attractive to PEOPLE.
I had a buddy I used to role with a lot who would constantly drop mentions about his yacht or mansion or bank he owned or whatever, and I don't think there was a single person we met, man or woman, who didn't either a.) start being a little nicer and kissing up a little too much, or b.) go into auto-rejection and do a, "Ah, whatever, humbug" kind of thing around him.
I'm pretty sure if a guy gave anyone here his phone number on the back of a 60,000 euro withdrawal slip and said, "Hey man, you seem cool. Swing by this party we're having later," there's not a man here who'd say, "Nah, sounds boring, I've got to prune my bonsai tree tonight."
Doesn't necessarily mean you want to sexually service this guy, but you're going to pursue him as someone to have in your network, absolutely. Women react the same way as men in this regard.
I've watched a lot of women around wealthy men. They will flirt with them and charm them, but aren't necessarily always trying to sleep with them. Some of them are, but some just want to keep them in their network and use them as a connection, just like some of the women you interact with now are trying to sleep with you, while others just want to keep you in their network and use you as a connection.
There are also "gold diggers", and these are women who are consciously and rationally pursuing wealthy men, from a coldly calculating perspective. Guys often see girls get excited about a rich guy and assume they're gold diggers who want to trade sexual favors for financial ones, but often the girl just wants him in her network.
Other times, wealth can be a sign of other good qualities. For instance, many men who are self-made wealthy have some very attractive qualities: they have immense frame control from dealing with running a business (negotiation, lawsuits, contracts, people who want to get money from you, plus it's a different world being the guy who owns the shop and daily has to worry about "What happens if the money dries up, while the expenses keep rolling?" than it is being the guy who merely works at the shop) or working a tough career, they're the guys who've made it and tend to be pretty confident because of that, plus it's rare to meet a rich guy (self-made or trust fund baby) with a big gut who sits around feeling depressed or says things like, "I don't know what I'm doing with my life!" or "What are my passions??!" Ordinary men see women going for wealthy men and say, "See, girls just want wealth," without noticing all the other (extremely attractive) qualities these men often have.
Money's an interesting topic, but men in the pickup / manosphere world have a rather simplistic view of it much of the time. It's a very nuanced one.
Chase
I had a buddy I used to role with a lot who would constantly drop mentions about his yacht or mansion or bank he owned or whatever, and I don't think there was a single person we met, man or woman, who didn't either a.) start being a little nicer and kissing up a little too much, or b.) go into auto-rejection and do a, "Ah, whatever, humbug" kind of thing around him.
I'm pretty sure if a guy gave anyone here his phone number on the back of a 60,000 euro withdrawal slip and said, "Hey man, you seem cool. Swing by this party we're having later," there's not a man here who'd say, "Nah, sounds boring, I've got to prune my bonsai tree tonight."
Doesn't necessarily mean you want to sexually service this guy, but you're going to pursue him as someone to have in your network, absolutely. Women react the same way as men in this regard.
I've watched a lot of women around wealthy men. They will flirt with them and charm them, but aren't necessarily always trying to sleep with them. Some of them are, but some just want to keep them in their network and use them as a connection, just like some of the women you interact with now are trying to sleep with you, while others just want to keep you in their network and use you as a connection.
There are also "gold diggers", and these are women who are consciously and rationally pursuing wealthy men, from a coldly calculating perspective. Guys often see girls get excited about a rich guy and assume they're gold diggers who want to trade sexual favors for financial ones, but often the girl just wants him in her network.
Other times, wealth can be a sign of other good qualities. For instance, many men who are self-made wealthy have some very attractive qualities: they have immense frame control from dealing with running a business (negotiation, lawsuits, contracts, people who want to get money from you, plus it's a different world being the guy who owns the shop and daily has to worry about "What happens if the money dries up, while the expenses keep rolling?" than it is being the guy who merely works at the shop) or working a tough career, they're the guys who've made it and tend to be pretty confident because of that, plus it's rare to meet a rich guy (self-made or trust fund baby) with a big gut who sits around feeling depressed or says things like, "I don't know what I'm doing with my life!" or "What are my passions??!" Ordinary men see women going for wealthy men and say, "See, girls just want wealth," without noticing all the other (extremely attractive) qualities these men often have.
Money's an interesting topic, but men in the pickup / manosphere world have a rather simplistic view of it much of the time. It's a very nuanced one.
Chase
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I have not read the what do you do article (will get to it eventually) but I respond something like this:
Ray
Another one that was quite funny, I had recruited 2 beautiful JP-girls by the left-luggage lockers in a major train station by telling them I needed an assistant to carry my luggage... they took it seriously although I explained "oyaji gyagu" (dirty old man joke)... and proceeded to carry my luggage... we fluff talked a bit, then they conferred amongst themselves briefly and announced in English "Job!". I replied "aruite ittari... hanashitari..." (oh, walking around a bit... talking to people...) they got the joke and laughed. Mr.Rob has a similar technique "I raise cats in my mom's basement" they're like OMG WTF and he says "I keep them in a garbage bag in the boot of my car, would you like to see?"... well the point of all these examples is to explain a sentence in Chase's ebook that really stuck in my mind: "Women aren't interested in guys who meet their requirements. Women are interested in guys who are ABOVE their requirements". You must casually dismiss the money or career thing and make it not an issue, because it isn't one. Your behaviour is the biggest factor in your attractiveness.
Ray
Chase said:
LOL, true, it made me think if it really might be a good way to actually bed some women a bit faster and a bit easier, though it would probably backfire lots of times with the sexually interested ones often expecting you to lavish them with gifts and/or walking away once you propose to ride the metro back to yours
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i just posted a field report about my ex. Ex stripper, tiny body, big fake perky perky boobs.
She has a ton of guys blowing up her phone all the time. she gets mad if i ask to see her phone. i usually do this to 1) remind myself what im dealinjg with. 2) to get her to leave me alone about what im doing.
She literally pays for everything probably with the money these guys are sending her. especially her rich exs. she tries to rub it in my face all the time and i act as if nothing happened. we break up and she still keeps crawling back for more. so, like chase said. the girls will start to feel entitled to situations like this which why im constantly having to put her in her place. also, like he said they want to have fun letthem have their fun guess whose bed she ends up in. she usually starts a fight, predictably around when she wants to be treated to a good dinner.i play along fight back with her, and she comes back a few days later in my bed.i never question what she does. its whatever.
Now, the money situation, of course if you have it, its a tool in your toolbox that cant help you beat out your competition. if you are the alpha male of the group... you have more choices.i constantly go out with my good looking friend and the girls gravitate to him. it sucks, so i have to break away sometimes or step up my game. So to summarize, money can be good in certain cases. it def makes openers a lot easier especially if you are the star of the night. however, if your game is tight enough you cant still sneak the girls away from underneath rich guys noses if you are good enough. its never just black and white. hope my perspective added to the situation.
then again on a side note, my buddy well known i have attended dinners with nfl players in town..... lets just say, i sit there broke as shit lol and i didnt see many attractive woman at his table. so its all about the game, if you arent rich or rich its all about your game you just have to deal the cards you are dealt.
She has a ton of guys blowing up her phone all the time. she gets mad if i ask to see her phone. i usually do this to 1) remind myself what im dealinjg with. 2) to get her to leave me alone about what im doing.
She literally pays for everything probably with the money these guys are sending her. especially her rich exs. she tries to rub it in my face all the time and i act as if nothing happened. we break up and she still keeps crawling back for more. so, like chase said. the girls will start to feel entitled to situations like this which why im constantly having to put her in her place. also, like he said they want to have fun letthem have their fun guess whose bed she ends up in. she usually starts a fight, predictably around when she wants to be treated to a good dinner.i play along fight back with her, and she comes back a few days later in my bed.i never question what she does. its whatever.
Now, the money situation, of course if you have it, its a tool in your toolbox that cant help you beat out your competition. if you are the alpha male of the group... you have more choices.i constantly go out with my good looking friend and the girls gravitate to him. it sucks, so i have to break away sometimes or step up my game. So to summarize, money can be good in certain cases. it def makes openers a lot easier especially if you are the star of the night. however, if your game is tight enough you cant still sneak the girls away from underneath rich guys noses if you are good enough. its never just black and white. hope my perspective added to the situation.
then again on a side note, my buddy well known i have attended dinners with nfl players in town..... lets just say, i sit there broke as shit lol and i didnt see many attractive woman at his table. so its all about the game, if you arent rich or rich its all about your game you just have to deal the cards you are dealt.
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Thank you Boss.
Expect me to send you a longer email, Chase. XD haha
Zac
Expect me to send you a longer email, Chase. XD haha
Zac
You know Chase, I have actually thought about this a lot and I even wanted to place a comment on your article asking you about "wealth" and "gaming". I decided not to ask since I'm just a beginner (I didn't want to get ahead of myself and lose sight of the basics) and I'm not wealthy. But that didn't reduce my curiosity. Generally in the puc it's been concluded that your seductions would be faster if you have an image of a broke/not wealthy guy. I know gc is different as things are not taught at surface level as the writers dive deeper into topics. You know Chase you once mentioned that just as you've met rich guys that are not good with girls, you've met those that are extremely good with girls. I have always been wondering, is it impossible for a guy to live an openly wealthy life but yet still sleep with lots of girls and deal with attainability and not have girls relegate him to the bf role. Nobody talks about this. If it's possible how can it be achieved.
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Enter, every rock star ever. You get away with more with money. Look at the guys who commit crimes and are out the next day. It's absolutely possible and actually easier. My stripper girlfriend now has dated rock stars.
She talked about him having a wife and then she was part of the group they slept with, told me stories about how some girls wanted to replace the wife but good luck with that.
It's all about framing. If you have money and give them the impression that your going to marry them they will damn well be upset if you break their heart. On another note, when I was promoting parties my cuzin, had ten girls he slept with in the same club they don't care. He told the girl he was sleeping like hey, I slept with these girls. Another guy brought a girl in a lambo and had a different girl every week. Here is the thing. The more money you have the better the woman look, and, just because you have money don't think they are going to be just with you. There still probably talking to other guys and plating the system as much as any guy if not more. I've had tons of girls leave their phones in my uber and you'd jrop your jaw with the amount of guys in their phones hitting them up.
It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor. It's all about the framing of the situation.
She talked about him having a wife and then she was part of the group they slept with, told me stories about how some girls wanted to replace the wife but good luck with that.
It's all about framing. If you have money and give them the impression that your going to marry them they will damn well be upset if you break their heart. On another note, when I was promoting parties my cuzin, had ten girls he slept with in the same club they don't care. He told the girl he was sleeping like hey, I slept with these girls. Another guy brought a girl in a lambo and had a different girl every week. Here is the thing. The more money you have the better the woman look, and, just because you have money don't think they are going to be just with you. There still probably talking to other guys and plating the system as much as any guy if not more. I've had tons of girls leave their phones in my uber and you'd jrop your jaw with the amount of guys in their phones hitting them up.
It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor. It's all about the framing of the situation.