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Been starting to get consistent success with nightgame as seen recently here and here.
My night out / lay ratio has gone from blind luck to getting 1 - 2 lays every 4 outings based on the last 4 months.
The aim of this thread is for you to get the same and better results after reading this guide. Please also share recommendations for everyone to benefit from too.
TLDR:
1. Dress well and go to bars with lots of girls
2. In a social way qualify out girls who aren't DTF that night EARLY > check if she's single, where she lives & what her plans are within 5-10 minutes
3. Move a girl around, give her space to miss you and seed the pull on a high note
4. Befriend her friends so they like and trust you
5. Order the uber/bolt while you grab jackets to make a smooth exit
More Detailed Guide:
1. Venue Selection
If venue selection criteria was a venn diagram the 3 features would be: music, girls ratio and distance from your place
You want to go to venues that hit at least 2 of those criteria. Why? You'll get laid a lot easier.... AND enjoy yourself more.
Music
Go to places that play the music you like even if it's not that "popular".
In my opinion music is one of the most underrated filters for getting girls you'll really click with. You'll be able to bond with a girl
when you dance and know all the moves, she'll like the way you know all the words to songs and for girls who aren't sure of themselves you're the cool guy who guides them in that unfamiliar environment.
Girls will also go to venues to find the kind of guys they like. So if you're a latin guy, girls who in Reggaeton bars will love you. If you're a black guy like me, places that play R&B, Hip Hop, Afrobeat will adore you. I once went back to a hotel with a girl who straight up told me she chose that club because she likes black guys and knows it was popular with them lol.
This is essentially all about finding your "niche" where you consistently find girls who are super into guys like you.
Girls Ratio
The more girls the better your chances. The way you do this is simple > Go to bars that TARGET girls.
Just like the way a sports bar will have mostly men and be filled with beer, TV screens and simple cosy furniture.
Bars that target girls tend to have vibrant colors, neon lights, flowers for instagram photos and have mostly cocktails options.
From what I've seen you have 2 main options:
a) High end bottle service clubs - this is where you can get ridiculous ratios as high as 3:1 BUT you have to know someone/a promotor. How you get into these clubs could be a post within itself but to summarize: DM'ng promoters (who you find via IG hashtags) and saying you'll come with x2 girls - you'll eventually get a guy who'll give you a chance and let you in for a reasonable price I.E £20 / $40 rather than the tourist standard of £50/$80 or table service for $500+
b) Cocktail Bars - this is accessible for ANYONE. You may need trial and error as some bars are too girly and you'll stick out in a bad way but you'd find places that are a comfortable 50:50 and we know lots of guys have bad game so even this works in your favour.
For me the best venues are "big bars" like the picture above. "Mega-clubs" tend to be too distracting, full of people who are too young and sausage fests. Big bars however tend to have a busy but not crowded dance floor area, seated spots where you can have a conversation and a more mature crowd.
2. Outfit
Don't dress like the average guy please:
I wish the above was an exaggeration but it's honestly not far off how some guys dress even on nights out. Plenty of posts here that go into outfits including my daygame guide but you basically just want to dress slightly "up" or "fuckboy" so you stand out in a good way. Here are some examples:
3. Nightgame "Characters"
Part of my reason for success is repetition and seeing the same characters again and again. You can obviously pull any kind of girl but my process is all about maximizing probabilities vs getting hail marys. You'll also feel at ease when being able to spot people and knowing their vibe.
4. Green Light Girls & My Process
In a socially saavy way you want to find out asap:
a) is she single
b) does she live near the bar or near you?
c) what is she doing later / tomorrow morning
Some phrases I use:
5. x3 Keys Needed For a Same Night Lay
a) Attraction
b) Compliance / My Process
5. She's comfortable with me holding her hand and leading her through the bar
6. She also acts "couplie" e.g. leans herself into me and wraps her arms around mine as I wrap mine around her shoulders to move her out the way for something.
7. Follows me to the smoking area to have a conversation, deep dive/ find out more about her
8. There's clear sexual tension when I look at her eyes and lips. I usually don't kiss girls until they're back at my place. ONLY EXCEPTION is if I can tell NOT kissing her will get her into auto-rejection. In that instance I'll give her an intense kiss and be the 1st one to pull back and say "I'm a tease" with a grin
9. When I seed the pull "Can I steal you tonight" She nods enthusiastically with beaming eyes vs "Maybe", "Laughing" or "deflecting"
>>> If I run the full above cycle and the girl doesn't bite I take her number, wish her a good night and move on. It should only take about 30 - 45 minutes.
c) Logistics
6. Making Conversation
Good Luck x
-DWW
My night out / lay ratio has gone from blind luck to getting 1 - 2 lays every 4 outings based on the last 4 months.
The aim of this thread is for you to get the same and better results after reading this guide. Please also share recommendations for everyone to benefit from too.
TLDR:
1. Dress well and go to bars with lots of girls
2. In a social way qualify out girls who aren't DTF that night EARLY > check if she's single, where she lives & what her plans are within 5-10 minutes
3. Move a girl around, give her space to miss you and seed the pull on a high note
4. Befriend her friends so they like and trust you
5. Order the uber/bolt while you grab jackets to make a smooth exit
More Detailed Guide:
1. Venue Selection
If venue selection criteria was a venn diagram the 3 features would be: music, girls ratio and distance from your place
You want to go to venues that hit at least 2 of those criteria. Why? You'll get laid a lot easier.... AND enjoy yourself more.
Music
Go to places that play the music you like even if it's not that "popular".
In my opinion music is one of the most underrated filters for getting girls you'll really click with. You'll be able to bond with a girl
when you dance and know all the moves, she'll like the way you know all the words to songs and for girls who aren't sure of themselves you're the cool guy who guides them in that unfamiliar environment.
Girls will also go to venues to find the kind of guys they like. So if you're a latin guy, girls who in Reggaeton bars will love you. If you're a black guy like me, places that play R&B, Hip Hop, Afrobeat will adore you. I once went back to a hotel with a girl who straight up told me she chose that club because she likes black guys and knows it was popular with them lol.
This is essentially all about finding your "niche" where you consistently find girls who are super into guys like you.
Girls Ratio
The more girls the better your chances. The way you do this is simple > Go to bars that TARGET girls.
Just like the way a sports bar will have mostly men and be filled with beer, TV screens and simple cosy furniture.
Bars that target girls tend to have vibrant colors, neon lights, flowers for instagram photos and have mostly cocktails options.

From what I've seen you have 2 main options:
a) High end bottle service clubs - this is where you can get ridiculous ratios as high as 3:1 BUT you have to know someone/a promotor. How you get into these clubs could be a post within itself but to summarize: DM'ng promoters (who you find via IG hashtags) and saying you'll come with x2 girls - you'll eventually get a guy who'll give you a chance and let you in for a reasonable price I.E £20 / $40 rather than the tourist standard of £50/$80 or table service for $500+
b) Cocktail Bars - this is accessible for ANYONE. You may need trial and error as some bars are too girly and you'll stick out in a bad way but you'd find places that are a comfortable 50:50 and we know lots of guys have bad game so even this works in your favour.
For me the best venues are "big bars" like the picture above. "Mega-clubs" tend to be too distracting, full of people who are too young and sausage fests. Big bars however tend to have a busy but not crowded dance floor area, seated spots where you can have a conversation and a more mature crowd.
2. Outfit
Don't dress like the average guy please:

I wish the above was an exaggeration but it's honestly not far off how some guys dress even on nights out. Plenty of posts here that go into outfits including my daygame guide but you basically just want to dress slightly "up" or "fuckboy" so you stand out in a good way. Here are some examples:


3. Nightgame "Characters"
Part of my reason for success is repetition and seeing the same characters again and again. You can obviously pull any kind of girl but my process is all about maximizing probabilities vs getting hail marys. You'll also feel at ease when being able to spot people and knowing their vibe.
- Big groups of 5/6 Girls - usually hen do's, groups of work friends or girls who just want attention
- Don't waste your time lol. Too much going on. Girls get too drunk, 1 of them gets jealous as she's not getting attention blah blah blah. At most get the number of the girl you like and move on to greener pastures
- Big 5/6 groups of mixed girls and guys - usually work friends or social circles
- These are hit and miss. Mostly I avoid them. In general it's best to make friends with the guys then let them introduce you to the group. I've met cool guys break down who's single, who's taken etc but a lot of times these groups will be protective and want to stay amongst themselves
- Clueless guys A.K.A Average Frustrated Chumps
- I won't be too harsh these guys have their place. They tend to be friendly but boring. They will also say "talk to a girl and I'll wingman you bro" which basically is them leeching and probably killing the vibe too lol. If you go out solo these are great for making a "home base"
- Cool guys who "get it"
- Normally well dressed, good looking guys who are in their own groups. Makes friends with these guys and get their instagrams. My wing does this and it's opened doors to exclusive clubs. Just make sure you're offering value and being a cool guy yourself as they can easily tell if you're legit or not.
- Groups of 2 - 3 Girls
- Ding ding ding. My personal fucking favorite. Girls of 2 are the most open to meeting guys but often you need to have a friend to keep the no. 2 occupied or make friends with someone on the night to do it. The nice thing about girls in 3 is that x2 girls will keep themselves busy while you hit on her friend
4. Green Light Girls & My Process
In a socially saavy way you want to find out asap:
a) is she single
b) does she live near the bar or near you?
c) what is she doing later / tomorrow morning
Some phrases I use:
- a - "Are you waiting for a boyfriend?... I don't want to get beaten up"
- b - "Hey you look like a girl from XYZ area"
- c - "Are you up early/busy tomorrow" or further into the interaction "What are your plans after this?" "Your fun, let's carry on dancing after this" "Can I steal you tonight? Promise I'll give you back"
- She lives in the same area as you OR she's willing to come to your area as it's not too inconvenient for her
- She doesn't have to "stay/look after her friends"
- She's a tourist and down for whatever
5. x3 Keys Needed For a Same Night Lay
a) Attraction
- Best way to sense this is non-verbals. When I meet girls I hug them at the "handshake" phase and I'm hyper alert to her body language good signs:
b) Compliance / My Process
- I've added this above logistics because if a girl is truly into you... She'll find a way to fuck you that night. As seen in my bathroom pull here
- I follow the following sequence and if a girl goes through all the hoops successfully I plant the seed to pull her home:
- First off win her group very easy to do > Introduce yourself to her friends and hug them, make jokes with guys and compliment their outfits, dance in an intimate but not overly sexual way so ASD isn't triggered. You can even tell her friends "I think your friend is super cool, what's the deal with her?" You normally get good reactions of "OMG she's so hot - definitely give it a go, you're great". Very few guys are doing this. I've had girls aggressively wing-woman for me, based on this alone.
- She's happy to move away from her friends and just dance solo with me
- She's comfortable with more sexual dancing (this is why I love R&B/Reggaeton so much - great plausible deniability)
- She shows compliance by: buying me drinks, holding my drink when I ask her to, looks after my jacket while I go to the bathroom etc.
- I will also purposefully leave her first to see my friends, go to the bathroom etc. before coming back. I do this multiple times because:
- I want her to "miss me" as most guys linger around like a bad smell lol. While I'm gone she'll likely get a weird guy chat to her and be glad I saved her. She also won't have that sexual dancing with me and will miss the validation
- I also want to test her buying temperature. Is she actually liking/ excited by me? Or just going with the motions? The way she reacts when I come back will tell me the answer
- Sometimes you may temporarily "lose her" to another guy. Trust in the fact that this other guy probably doesn't know what he's doing and will fuck up somewhere. You'll then come back and sweep her up. If not? He's saved you time and you can go get another girl.
5. She's comfortable with me holding her hand and leading her through the bar
6. She also acts "couplie" e.g. leans herself into me and wraps her arms around mine as I wrap mine around her shoulders to move her out the way for something.
7. Follows me to the smoking area to have a conversation, deep dive/ find out more about her
8. There's clear sexual tension when I look at her eyes and lips. I usually don't kiss girls until they're back at my place. ONLY EXCEPTION is if I can tell NOT kissing her will get her into auto-rejection. In that instance I'll give her an intense kiss and be the 1st one to pull back and say "I'm a tease" with a grin
9. When I seed the pull "Can I steal you tonight" She nods enthusiastically with beaming eyes vs "Maybe", "Laughing" or "deflecting"
>>> If I run the full above cycle and the girl doesn't bite I take her number, wish her a good night and move on. It should only take about 30 - 45 minutes.
c) Logistics
- Again I'd say attraction and compliance is far more important than logistics. I've had girls sleep with me then get ubers to catch their flight lol. With that said it's generally easier if you and the girl have good logistics and you'll get more "fuck it - why not?" lays
- If she lives near you - it makes it a whole lot easier and you can take the same uber home "as it's easier"
- Generally tourist girls in hotels can be hit or miss. If they've got separate rooms may be worth persisting if she's super invested otherwise leave it
- For me I like girls near my area as I know they can also become future rotation girls... London is too big of a city that realistically a girl who lives 1 hour away probably won't see me again.
6. Making Conversation
- Good Openers:
- Super random - my friend's gone to the bathroom - do you mind if I hang out with you for a bit so I don't like a loner? *Self deprecating laugh*
- You're some of the coolest girls here, love the way you're just dancing and having fun without being uptight
- Hiii you seem cool, where you from? *Hug*
- Hii do you have a boyfriend? Don't want to get beaten up
- Hii you from XYZ country? Your vibe screams it
- Making Conversation:Push Pull / Fun and lighthearted conversations is what you want with nightgame. Avoid deep conversations. You can probably do more professional conversations and validate girls on being "smart/professional" and not like the rest but for the most part keep it light. Good conversations are:
- Star signs - UGH you remind me of my Ex you scream Libra
- If she's the "fun one" or the "mum" of her friends
- Cold reads - doesn't matter if wrong or right e.g. I reckon you're one of those edgy East London girls
- People Watching - Oh no did you see that guy hitting on that girl and not getting the hint???
- Fuckkkk I love this song - come dance with me
- "AHH You're so fun!!! Where've you been all night... How am I just meeting you now?"
- I love your outfit *grabs hands and looks at her rings* what's the story behind it all?
Good Luck x
-DWW
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