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Some of the guys with more sex appeal, seducers, cool guys will experience women taking the masculine role and/or being the sexual aggressor.... A lot of the time, people fuck this up, at least i have for years.....
Have you ever heard from guys saying "avoid sexting" for example is a consequence of not handling this aspect. (more on this later)
Have you ever been open or had a girl try to seduce you and take a masculine role and you just FROZE, or had no idea what to do? Happened to me a lot.
Have you ever had a girl be so sexually aggressive with make outs, grabbing your dick, talking dirty and you got all horny and exited and nothing happened.... Which is why a lot of the community says avoid escalations or make outs till closing location. (which i understand the well intended advise but is off, you will understand this when i am done with the post).
So what is going on, there are as always many nuances:
scenario 1.- women opening you, when they do this they are taking the masculine role that you are used to take, we are the ones suppose to open(other than the blackpill fantasies), women game is to make it easy for you to open by her placing herself next to you, bumping into you, giving you approach invites.... But when they open you out of the blue you get totally thrown out and lost, cause now you are in a position you are not used to which is taking the feminine role, you also get suspicious "is this a prostitute?" "does she want something from me?" "is she doing this for validation?" "is she trying to pump up value with a bf/hubby/date?"(this one is very common and causes 90% of club fights).
Scenario 2.- Have you been online/apps and had a girl out of the blue hint sex and sent overly sexual pictures, talk dirty to you etc.... You respond super enthusiastic, she keeps up this dynamic and you guys never meet and she ghosts. (which is why a lot of gurus say no sexting, they don't understand the problem is causation correlation, again i will explain the solution.)
Scenario 3.- Have you been in a club or night game or festival if day game or rave or ________ fill in the blank, and had a girl all over you super aggressive grabbing dick etc... at the time of pulling she did not go home with you.... When you texted her, she did not respond.... Sure you have (again where the do not make out with the girl advise comes from, which is totally flawed, but now you know why they advise this)......
Anyways so what is going on, well different things:
- Solution 1.- sometimes is a confident girl that does not mind opening guys and getting what she wants, usually more experience girls this is super super unusual and a small minority.... (girls with actual game).... The solution here is to do not freeze (as this happens more with time you will not freeze), have something prepared and practice in case of this situation.... if she opens and compliments you "aww thank you i am blushing" "or play stupid like she is talking to some dude behind you, act surprise is you in a funny way" but compliment back to reward her opening you, could be a high five, a kiss, a genuine compliment on her personality (preferably or accessory vs physical), and start taking control of the interaction, right away ask "who are you here with? how do you guys know each other?" in case you are pond for her to raise value to date/bf/hubby.(again cause of 90% of clubs fights cause they are giving dtf signs and opening body language and being sexually aggressive as shit test to date/bf/hubby)
- solution 2.- this is something a seducer called Fastlane and i were discussing in private group, he brought up a good point of the women online with the aggressive sexting, sending sexual pictures and the likes..... He made the point that women do this to use guys for validation-thru sex, since that is women strongest selling point/agency.... Usually is with guys out of her league but not always, but even guys in her league will get thirsty for easy sex which lets her keep up the illusion and gain compliance... Now this is a massive shit test, and you need to be careful, now what i have done successfully is actually in this case do the things normal women do with sexually aggressive guys, i flip the script and start acting and giving objections of when a girl is proposed sex by aggressive dudes...
sample of this:
hb: hiya! I'am gonna save you under as my dick appointment in my contacts.
seducer: oooo. you're smooth with it (cool calm not getting too exited, keeping it neutral, not too exited, but not causing auto rejection)
hb: haha I'm joking... I don't even know you to demean you like that.
seducer (taking a bit of a feminine role slowing down talking womanize second gen which is the right paly here): was about to say, i am more than just a piece of meat, I am a lady! (as a silly joke)
seducer: chemistry, respect and connection make appointments feel unreal. (secret society flashing, second gen.)
hb: lol but love that you played along and didn't get booty tickled. i just wanted to see how you respond. (she is saying you pass my shit test)
seducer: it's all fun and games have a feeling we'll get along great (future projection)
hb: have a feeling you'll fit great, haha! too short to take life serious.
seducer (more second gen): right! some people take life too seriously, plus expectations can ruin things. So you might get to feel that great fit. But only if vibe is right there when we meet. (prizing, he is the prize is not a guarantee for her)
hb: haha only if the vibes is right? it's a challenge, anyways what are you up to?
^ i also have a similar sample kind of identical if you look at the text sample of the tall Venezuelan banko here
Solution 3.- The solution is to slow her down vs rejecting her, so she does not go into auto rejection....But if she is in heat you don't want to either go into a convo. hold on.... What is your name? blah blah, cause this will kill her state.... The solution is to do what i call the bubble, in which you are still show sexual intent, you still escalate, you still maintained sexual tension and horniness level, but is MORE CONTAINED, a bubble, is super hard to explain, you can also go into second generation as you are de-escalating while in the bubble....
sample 2:25 here (super hard to explain like that but way longer):
^ so what you don't want to do:
- get too exited in any of the situations and horny and overly eager specially to nudes, sexy photos.
- no qualifying her and complying and falling for the shit test.
-sloppy makeouts that don't mean anything...
-get frozen and expect her to do the whole seduction, you need to be prepare for the situation....
P.s. this is somewhat on the same topic for guys in the west with the higher women earners, more professional women, more "alpha female" etc...:
Have you ever heard from guys saying "avoid sexting" for example is a consequence of not handling this aspect. (more on this later)
Have you ever been open or had a girl try to seduce you and take a masculine role and you just FROZE, or had no idea what to do? Happened to me a lot.
Have you ever had a girl be so sexually aggressive with make outs, grabbing your dick, talking dirty and you got all horny and exited and nothing happened.... Which is why a lot of the community says avoid escalations or make outs till closing location. (which i understand the well intended advise but is off, you will understand this when i am done with the post).
So what is going on, there are as always many nuances:
scenario 1.- women opening you, when they do this they are taking the masculine role that you are used to take, we are the ones suppose to open(other than the blackpill fantasies), women game is to make it easy for you to open by her placing herself next to you, bumping into you, giving you approach invites.... But when they open you out of the blue you get totally thrown out and lost, cause now you are in a position you are not used to which is taking the feminine role, you also get suspicious "is this a prostitute?" "does she want something from me?" "is she doing this for validation?" "is she trying to pump up value with a bf/hubby/date?"(this one is very common and causes 90% of club fights).
Scenario 2.- Have you been online/apps and had a girl out of the blue hint sex and sent overly sexual pictures, talk dirty to you etc.... You respond super enthusiastic, she keeps up this dynamic and you guys never meet and she ghosts. (which is why a lot of gurus say no sexting, they don't understand the problem is causation correlation, again i will explain the solution.)
Scenario 3.- Have you been in a club or night game or festival if day game or rave or ________ fill in the blank, and had a girl all over you super aggressive grabbing dick etc... at the time of pulling she did not go home with you.... When you texted her, she did not respond.... Sure you have (again where the do not make out with the girl advise comes from, which is totally flawed, but now you know why they advise this)......
Anyways so what is going on, well different things:
- Solution 1.- sometimes is a confident girl that does not mind opening guys and getting what she wants, usually more experience girls this is super super unusual and a small minority.... (girls with actual game).... The solution here is to do not freeze (as this happens more with time you will not freeze), have something prepared and practice in case of this situation.... if she opens and compliments you "aww thank you i am blushing" "or play stupid like she is talking to some dude behind you, act surprise is you in a funny way" but compliment back to reward her opening you, could be a high five, a kiss, a genuine compliment on her personality (preferably or accessory vs physical), and start taking control of the interaction, right away ask "who are you here with? how do you guys know each other?" in case you are pond for her to raise value to date/bf/hubby.(again cause of 90% of clubs fights cause they are giving dtf signs and opening body language and being sexually aggressive as shit test to date/bf/hubby)
- solution 2.- this is something a seducer called Fastlane and i were discussing in private group, he brought up a good point of the women online with the aggressive sexting, sending sexual pictures and the likes..... He made the point that women do this to use guys for validation-thru sex, since that is women strongest selling point/agency.... Usually is with guys out of her league but not always, but even guys in her league will get thirsty for easy sex which lets her keep up the illusion and gain compliance... Now this is a massive shit test, and you need to be careful, now what i have done successfully is actually in this case do the things normal women do with sexually aggressive guys, i flip the script and start acting and giving objections of when a girl is proposed sex by aggressive dudes...
sample of this:
hb: hiya! I'am gonna save you under as my dick appointment in my contacts.
seducer: oooo. you're smooth with it (cool calm not getting too exited, keeping it neutral, not too exited, but not causing auto rejection)
hb: haha I'm joking... I don't even know you to demean you like that.
seducer (taking a bit of a feminine role slowing down talking womanize second gen which is the right paly here): was about to say, i am more than just a piece of meat, I am a lady! (as a silly joke)
seducer: chemistry, respect and connection make appointments feel unreal. (secret society flashing, second gen.)
hb: lol but love that you played along and didn't get booty tickled. i just wanted to see how you respond. (she is saying you pass my shit test)
seducer: it's all fun and games have a feeling we'll get along great (future projection)
hb: have a feeling you'll fit great, haha! too short to take life serious.
seducer (more second gen): right! some people take life too seriously, plus expectations can ruin things. So you might get to feel that great fit. But only if vibe is right there when we meet. (prizing, he is the prize is not a guarantee for her)
hb: haha only if the vibes is right? it's a challenge, anyways what are you up to?
^ i also have a similar sample kind of identical if you look at the text sample of the tall Venezuelan banko here
Solution 3.- The solution is to slow her down vs rejecting her, so she does not go into auto rejection....But if she is in heat you don't want to either go into a convo. hold on.... What is your name? blah blah, cause this will kill her state.... The solution is to do what i call the bubble, in which you are still show sexual intent, you still escalate, you still maintained sexual tension and horniness level, but is MORE CONTAINED, a bubble, is super hard to explain, you can also go into second generation as you are de-escalating while in the bubble....
sample 2:25 here (super hard to explain like that but way longer):
^ so what you don't want to do:
- get too exited in any of the situations and horny and overly eager specially to nudes, sexy photos.
- no qualifying her and complying and falling for the shit test.
-sloppy makeouts that don't mean anything...
-get frozen and expect her to do the whole seduction, you need to be prepare for the situation....
P.s. this is somewhat on the same topic for guys in the west with the higher women earners, more professional women, more "alpha female" etc...:
Encourage her to be more feminine - The Skills Method
This is a set of techniques that I use under the pretex of becoming more feminine to escalate and lower the anti slut defense.
www.theskillsmethod.com
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