Feedback please

[Wolfie]

Did 2 approaches


1st approach


Well this wasn't even an approach my wing approached this girl and he brought her back to meet me and we talked for a while deep dived with her. Some places I need feedback on


Me- you really have beautiful eyes

Her - laughing, thank you

My Wing - you should ask her out

Me - oh yeah, are you single?

Her - laughing, no I have a boyfriend

After this I stopped showing much interest since she was committed and said she met this guy in her class and are 4 months into it.

I felt bad she was damn cute and very open minded but I pulled back my interest.

But then before going she looked at me pointed her phone in my direction and said give me your number ( this was when my wing asked her for number) and she said yeah we can meet on Saturday. So is she interested in me? I won't text her cause she is in a relationship


Next incident with the same girl


Wing - why don't you tell her about your three dates with those

At this point wing was trying to build dhv but fucked it up and I saved it by saying this

Me-yeah whatever happens between me and my girl stays between us and it's not for other people

Trying to show if I am discreet guy


Another incident he fucked up was saying to the girl yeah maybe you can bring a girl along and wolfie (me) will hit on her

And I just laughed

I think it came across as desperate he framed me as a desperate guy but I think I should have turned it and said

"yeah I just love women, I enjoy the company of women"

With her when my wing introduced me I said to her yeah I am actually shy and trying to get out of my shell - - - - tried to he honest here


And another bad frame my wing did was this

Wing :- Yeh it's shame that he (me) and I live with parents

Me :- I think it's about responsibility, I don think so I can abandon my parents (trying to show that I don't back off from responsibilities)


2nd approach

I still suffer from AA but I saw this hot girl stare at me for more than 3 seconds or so

Looked around and opened her saying

"excuse me, do you know any cigratee stalls around here"

She stared at me for a second

"I what?"


I repeated my question

And she said yeah here obviously not knowing

And her male companion came and she turned to him

Anyways reason I opened her was there was strong ioi eye contact of more than 3 seconds



What should I have improved? What could have I done better

 

[Beck Bass]

But then before going she looked at me pointed her phone in my direction and said give me your number ( this was when my wing asked her for number) and she said yeah we can meet on Saturday. So is she interested in me? I won't text her cause she is in a relationship

Well, if my girl got some dudes number and said she could meet him, I would know there's something off lol
I think she wants to cheat and/or find a new guy. If you're gonna go for it, it's up to you.
She might also be just playing with you/testing you, but I think it's low odds (even if she wants to sleep with you, she'll still test you, so you gotta game her regardless, right? I think you have a shot though)
Also why did your wing bring her back to you (and said that you should go out)? She likely showed interest in you for him before already
Her boyfriend might also just have been an excuse, maybe it's just some dude she's dating for a while and not even excited about, who knows

"excuse me, do you know any cigratee stalls around here"

She stared at me for a second

"I what?"

No idea, I mean, she was with her man, and she was giving you AIs, she likely just wanted some attention, she probably didn't think you would approach... Or maybe deep down she just wanted to fuck you and for you to make it happen quick, before her bf comes back lol
Doesn't matter too much though, at least you approached, not much else you could have done...

Or maybe it wasn't even her boyfriend? Sometimes it's good to ask a girl about her "male companion" (if you know she's with someone) so she can clear the air, and at least you know what you are dealing with.
I guess another opener (assuming you saw the guy before and he left or something) could be:
"Hey, it's that your boyfriend?"
"Whatever"
"Well I just thought you ~compliment~ and wanted to say hi. What's your name?"

And then you got from there. Assuming it's not her bf, you can just game her as usual. If it is her boyfriend, you can just excuse yourself out or if you feel some vibes (and assuming he's away for a little while and you don't care lmao) you can get her number or something

 

[Wolfie]

Well, if my girl got some dudes number and said she could meet him, I would know there's something off lol

So my wing first asked her let's hang out, give your number to us and then she directed her phone towards me and said give me yours and in that moment my wing just sweeps in and gave his and then he handed over the phone to mine

 

[Wolfie]

Also why did your wing bring her back to you (and said that you should go out)? She likely showed interest in you for him before already

True I was suffering from AA and he was doing his best to make me approach her but I couldn't later he went to her talked to her and brought her back and I was shocked that she was there to join us.

 

[ulrich]

Hey @Wolfie

1st approach


Well this wasn't even an approach my wing approached this girl and he brought her back to meet me and we talked for a while deep dived with her. Some places I need feedback on


Me- you really have beautiful eyes

Her - laughing, thank you

My Wing - you should ask her out

Me - oh yeah, are you single?

Her - laughing, no I have a boyfriend

After this I stopped showing much interest since she was committed and said she met this guy in her class and are 4 months into it.

I felt bad she was damn cute and very open minded but I pulled back my interest.

But then before going she looked at me pointed her phone in my direction and said give me your number ( this was when my wing asked her for number) and she said yeah we can meet on Saturday. So is she interested in me? I won't text her cause she is in a relationship

Two things to have in mind here:

1) Attractive girls always have someone in their lives.
The better the girls you approach, the more likely she is taken or already dating someone.

That does not mean you don’t flirt with her… that means you move forward as much as she allows it (in a socially intelligent way).
Some girls are dating guys they are not excited about… so you can get there and “steal” her from these guys.
As long as you are remarkable, it is easy peasy.

2) You lost the set the moment you surrendered it and not before.
If you cherish your interactions with beautiful women and enjoy them and learn from them, you will always have a good time.
Focusing too much on the results at the beginning robs you of the experience and, ironically, blocks results.

Enjoy the path for it is long and full of rewards.

Next incident with the same girl


Wing - why don't you tell her about your three dates with those

At this point wing was trying to build dhv but fucked it up and I saved it by saying this

Me-yeah whatever happens between me and my girl stays between us and it's not for other people

Trying to show if I am discreet guy


Another incident he fucked up was saying to the girl yeah maybe you can bring a girl along and wolfie (me) will hit on her

And I just laughed

I think it came across as desperate he framed me as a desperate guy but I think I should have turned it and said

"yeah I just love women, I enjoy the company of women"

With her when my wing introduced me I said to her yeah I am actually shy and trying to get out of my shell - - - - tried to he honest here


And another bad frame my wing did was this

All of these could have been reframed as you being a fun and attractive player but you worried too much for keeping a good guy reputation.

Actually your wing was trying to help you.

Wing :- Yeh it's shame that he (me) and I live with parents

Me :- I think it's about responsibility, I don think so I can abandon my parents (trying to show that I don't back off from responsibilities)

This may have been a real fuckup from him… but at this point it’s his third try to salvage the thing.
I’d cut him some slack.

2nd approach

I still suffer from AA but I saw this hot girl stare at me for more than 3 seconds or so

Looked around and opened her saying

"excuse me, do you know any cigratee stalls around here"

She stared at me for a second

"I what?"


I repeated my question

And she said yeah here obviously not knowing

And her male companion came and she turned to him

Anyways reason I opened her was there was strong ioi eye contact of more than 3 seconds



What should I have improved? What could have I done better

Seems from the context that this happened in a club, maybe?
I guess you could have been more direct and/or physical.

Nightclubs are not a good match for low commitment situational approaches.

I agree with @Beck Bass… her male companion might have been her gay friend for as much as we know.

 

[Wolfie]

Seems from the context that this happened in a club, maybe?

No this happened around a college campus

 

[Wolfie]

@ulrich

Now that I think about it she mentioned saying "yeah if I break up with my boyfriend it would be awkward because we will be in the same class for next 3 years"....... Does that mean she is saying she can ditch this boyfriend and is open to new mate ?

 

[ulrich]

@ulrich

Now that I think about it she mentioned saying "yeah if I break up with my boyfriend it would be awkward because we will be in the same class for next 3 years"....... Does that mean she is saying she can ditch this boyfriend and is open to new mate ?

Maybe.

You’re rarely going to get something straight on these kind of subjects from a girl you just met.
But this is a good indication.

 

[ulrich]

No this happened around a college campus

Well, seems then that the opener was kind of weak which really doesn’t matter if you can handle the interaction up to the hook point.

Did you get nervous and eject or tried to keep the conversation going?

 

[Wolfie]

Well, seems then that the opener was kind of weak which really doesn’t matter if you can handle the interaction up to the hook point.

Did you get nervous and eject or tried to keep the conversation going?

I kept going and kept talking to her deep diving and cold reading my cold readings were correct, I was very comfortable talking to her

 

[Wolfie]

Well, seems then that the opener was kind of weak which really doesn’t matter if you can handle the interaction up to the hook point.

Did you get nervous and eject or tried to keep the conversation going?

On the contrary it seemed she was getting nervous playing with her phone and her fingers