Finally started Cold Approaching - Looking for advice on routine and closing!

[Yaxir]

I have recently undergone a MASSIVE transformation and started cold approaching in Zurich ( i will be living there for the next 2 years at least ) in April 2024

Now, i have worked out a routine which i think is good ( at least in my opinion ) but also filters out ALOT of potential women who i could seduce or even have a fling or LTR with

Here's what i do :

1. compliment the girl (mostly for something she did herself - like shoes, hairstyle, dress handbag etc)
2. tell her " you caught my eye, i would kick myself / regret if i didn't come meet you "
3 Then i introduce myself and say "I am Yaxir (shake hand) and you are ?"
4. I am sorry but i am a bit nervous doing this (i do this to filter out women who want to be approached and are kind enough to give me a chance)
5. Then i tell her what i do and ask her what she does "I work as a computer scientist here and what do you do?"
6. False time constraint - i tell her i have to go (" It's lovely talking to you, you seem like an amazing lady. However, my friend is waiting and i have to go. I'd love to take you out for coffee sometime ")
7. If she says yes, i ask for her Whatsapp - i don't take instagram as mine isn't particularly good and i honestly don't have time for instagram (plus most girls don't reply on Instagram)

I have had some success (as of today, Sunday 19th May 2024 - i have had 2 cold approach dates in total since i started Cold Approach in April 2024) and some girls do give their number

some girls are stuck on exchanging Instagrams, so i take their instagram but these girls never text on instagram

but i think my routine is too comfortable and i need to spice it up or add something to it to attract more women - alot of women have complimented me on my courage and one girl even said that i am quite charismatic and should talk to more women!

I need feedback, how can i improve, dos and don't

All your help is greatly appreciated!

 

[DarkKnight]

First of good job man it takes balls to be able to approach during daygame. I almost never see other guys do it.

. I am sorry but i am a bit nervous doing this (i do this to filter out women who want to be approached

Dont do this... you dont apologize for approaching them you make it normal. Also dont show being nervous comes across weak. This is basically the opposite of the authority opener.

Then i tell her what i do and ask her what she does "I work as a computer scientist here and what do you do?"

Avoid logical stuff and boring questions..

If she says yes, i ask for her Whatsapp - i don't take instagram as mine isn't particularly good and i honestly don't have time for instagram (plus most girls don't reply on Instagram)

I have had some success (as of today, Sunday 19th May 2024 - i have had 2 cold approach dates in total since i started Cold Approach in April 2024) and some girls do give their number

Respect

but i think my routine is too comfortable and i need to spice it up or add something to it to attract more women - alot of women have complimented me on my courage and one girl even said that i am quite charismatic and should talk to more women!

Day game is incredibly hard due to AA and feeling social pressure so there is nothing wrong with starting with a comfortable routine.

If I had one takeaway for you it would be this: dont feel as if you are doing something wrong, dont apologize for as Gunwitch puts it talking to another citizen of the world

 

[gameboy]

Personally I'd skip saying you're a computer scientist unless she asks you. Comes across as borderline boring, at least to most western women.

I like the rest of your routine, including saying you're nervous: It can take the pressure off the girl if she is also nervous. Though if the girl seems super confident maybe skip that part too.

Also, kudos for gaming in Zurich.I once had a Swiss girlfriend/FB that I had picked up in a bar in Barcelona, and even though she was super pretty and in her early 20s, she said she literally never got approached in Switzerland. I believe she was actually a virgin.

 

[Yaxir]

thank you @DarkKnight , your insight is very encouraging and helpful!

i have great respect for the community here because you guys are fantastic at guiding me!

Avoid logical stuff and boring questions..

any tips for this? i just want to make the approach more fun (and possibly interactive) for the girl as well

I feel this pressure to introduce myself AND my profession, so the girl is not scared of me (or doesn't think i am a suspicious man) - whatever i can replace this with, i am happy to get your feedback!

Dont do this... you dont apologize for approaching them you make it normal. Also dont show being nervous comes across weak. This is basically the opposite of the authority opener

hmm .. what can i replace the "sorry i am nervous / i am not good at this" part with? it basically helps ramp down my anxiety / panic AND i get to qualify if the woman is nice enough to give me a chance

i think the anxiety is not so much of a problem because i am getting used to approaching girls i find attractive, however i do want to qualify her to see if she is good-natured or not (maybe an approach is not the best time to qualify her for that?)

i will try to be more intentful with my approaches and cut out the nervous/sorry part

thankyou!

 

[Yaxir]

Personally I'd skip saying you're a computer scientist unless she asks you. Comes across as borderline boring, at least to most western women.

I like the rest of your routine, including saying you're nervous: It can take the pressure off the girl if she is also nervous. Though if the girl seems super confident maybe skip that part too.

Also, kudos for gaming in Zurich.I once had a Swiss girlfriend/FB that I had picked up in a bar in Barcelona, and even though she was super pretty and in her early 20s, she said she literally never got approached in Switzerland. I believe she was actually a virgin.

Hi, thank you for the feedback

i had a similar feeling about the 'nervous' thing and it really settled but i will try not to use it on women who seem ok during the approach

the reason i introduce my profession is .. well, i feel as if the girl will think i am a sleazebag for approaching her and she might be scared/creeped out to talk to a stranger - i think of it like a comfort building move, so she knows that i am a educated, decent guy and won't try anything crazy while approaching her

but of course, i will greatly appreciate your feedback and suggestion on how i can improve my routine!

Thank you!

P.S : it is true what the Swiss girl told you, most women are quite flattered to be approached and have even remarked that this kind of thing (cold approach) never happens in Switzerland

 

[gameboy]

Well, if it works for you I say keep doing it! But you could try mixing things up, depending on the girl and the situation et cetera.

Let's hope you don't get hordes of PUAs descending onto Zurich now that it's out that Swiss girls never get approached...

 

[Yaxir]

Well, if it works for you I say keep doing it! But you could try mixing things up, depending on the girl and the situation et cetera.

Let's hope you don't get hordes of PUAs descending onto Zurich now that it's out that Swiss girls never get approached...

thanks mate!

i have a really healthy group of like-minded people who i approach with

and haha i have seen other gamers in zurich too

however, this is one of the most expensive countries (Zurich is the most expensive city in the world) so its probably challenging to visit here just for game lol

 

[Licker]

5. Then i tell her what i do and ask her what she does "I work as a computer scientist here and what do you do?"
6. False time constraint - i tell her i have to go (" It's lovely talking to you, you seem like an amazing lady. However, my friend is waiting and i have to go. I'd love to take you out for coffee sometime ")

Great job till 3. 4 you gotta skip as others have said.
5 & 6 - It's a little too friendly in my opinion.

for 5 you could tease her on something. Maybe she got a few too many shoppings bags. Maybe you ask her I can tell you are not as innocent as you look right?

Or you could go indirect direct - like explained here: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-use-indirect-game-get-girls

Think banter and repartee.

Once you exchange a few lines of those, for 6 you ask her to move to some place - like if you are on the sidewalk, "Lets go to the side a bit so we don't block other people on the street". Take her hand and guide her there.

7. After that, keep asking her about herself. What she does, - whether she likes it or what would she like to do instead if she could do anything.

Keep repeating 5 and 7 interchangeably.
Use 6 again to ask her show her tattoo. Make her comply with your requests.

And don't hesistate to ask her out for coffee right on the spot if you spend 10-15 minutes talking to her!