I was waiting for the subway today, when a very slim pretty white girl walked over and started waiting a few feet away from me.
I immediately began turning to her to talk to her, when an old man and his wife beat me to it, and asked her for directions. I was pretty mad that they were TOTALLY WASTING MY OPPORTUNITY, and not even trying to pick her up, I would have been fine if another young guy beat me to her and tried to get her number.
Anyway, after FOREVER, they finally leave, and the train has arrived. We both walk closer to the train, and I turn to her, look her up and down, and say "your outfit is *really* stylish.", she says "oh this thing? thanks!". We walk into the train, and I ask "do you work in fashion?". She replies in a subdued tone that conveys <I know I'm the shit, but I'm trying not to brag about it too much> "I'm a model".
At this moment, everything from Chase's article about about opening a model came rushing back to me intuitively.
I reply "oh nice" (in as non-chalant a way as humanly possible), and follow it up with "is modeling your only thing? Or do you do something else on the side?" (one of the tips straight out of the article). She replies sheepishly "Oh yeah, I'm a nanny", and looks down a bit. This was the first time I "negged" a girl before, and honestly it felt kinda shitty to see her self-confidence fall after my comment. But I kept the conversation going, by saying my sister just had a baby recently, and she's been looking for a nanny.
We kept chit-chatting. Turns out she just moved to NYC two months ago, is 18, and has never been to college. A few times during the conversation she gave me some indicators-of-interest, but they were relatively subtle. For example, she asked me if I was right out of college, and we were talking about age, I tell her I'm 30, and she says something to the effect of "oh, I guess you have good genetics". And she told me she just got her 23andme results, and turns out she has 5% African ancestry, and says "you should do it too! I'm sure you have some exotic ancestry as well" (which I take as a compliment).
Also from the article, I asked her "do you do print or runway?", she responded "I do both". This question didn't really go anywhere itself, but it did give her the impression I'm at least vaguely familiar with the industry, and so she told me about how her agent is really good, and helped her close her first contract just this week.
At the end, I tell her "hey, I'm getting off the next stop, would you want to exchange numbers and maybe grab a coffee sometime?". She replies "oh, I have a boyfriend, but we can be friends". I say "okay, sure", and take her instagram.
Concluding Thoughts:
- first time cold approaching a model. Everything from Chase's article ended up being true to the letter. Although I didn't number close her, and this isn't likely to go anywhere, it was a useful interaction to approach a model, and realize it's not such a big deal.
- I think if she didn't have a boyfriend (not even sure if that's true or just an excuse), or if she wasn't white (I have much lower odds with white girls), then I think I actually would have number closed this one, which would have been really cool. It's nice to know that my fundamentals have improved enough that I can approach a model and have a chance. Now it's just a matter of continuing to improve my fundamentals, and a numbers game of not being afraid to approach more models (whom I do see occasionally, and admittedly I auto-reject them thinking it'll never work)
- Funny that the first model I approached happened to be a train approach, just like Chase's, although I didn't sleep with this one (hopefully next time!).
I immediately began turning to her to talk to her, when an old man and his wife beat me to it, and asked her for directions. I was pretty mad that they were TOTALLY WASTING MY OPPORTUNITY, and not even trying to pick her up, I would have been fine if another young guy beat me to her and tried to get her number.
Anyway, after FOREVER, they finally leave, and the train has arrived. We both walk closer to the train, and I turn to her, look her up and down, and say "your outfit is *really* stylish.", she says "oh this thing? thanks!". We walk into the train, and I ask "do you work in fashion?". She replies in a subdued tone that conveys <I know I'm the shit, but I'm trying not to brag about it too much> "I'm a model".
At this moment, everything from Chase's article about about opening a model came rushing back to me intuitively.
I reply "oh nice" (in as non-chalant a way as humanly possible), and follow it up with "is modeling your only thing? Or do you do something else on the side?" (one of the tips straight out of the article). She replies sheepishly "Oh yeah, I'm a nanny", and looks down a bit. This was the first time I "negged" a girl before, and honestly it felt kinda shitty to see her self-confidence fall after my comment. But I kept the conversation going, by saying my sister just had a baby recently, and she's been looking for a nanny.
We kept chit-chatting. Turns out she just moved to NYC two months ago, is 18, and has never been to college. A few times during the conversation she gave me some indicators-of-interest, but they were relatively subtle. For example, she asked me if I was right out of college, and we were talking about age, I tell her I'm 30, and she says something to the effect of "oh, I guess you have good genetics". And she told me she just got her 23andme results, and turns out she has 5% African ancestry, and says "you should do it too! I'm sure you have some exotic ancestry as well" (which I take as a compliment).
Also from the article, I asked her "do you do print or runway?", she responded "I do both". This question didn't really go anywhere itself, but it did give her the impression I'm at least vaguely familiar with the industry, and so she told me about how her agent is really good, and helped her close her first contract just this week.
At the end, I tell her "hey, I'm getting off the next stop, would you want to exchange numbers and maybe grab a coffee sometime?". She replies "oh, I have a boyfriend, but we can be friends". I say "okay, sure", and take her instagram.
Concluding Thoughts:
- first time cold approaching a model. Everything from Chase's article ended up being true to the letter. Although I didn't number close her, and this isn't likely to go anywhere, it was a useful interaction to approach a model, and realize it's not such a big deal.
- I think if she didn't have a boyfriend (not even sure if that's true or just an excuse), or if she wasn't white (I have much lower odds with white girls), then I think I actually would have number closed this one, which would have been really cool. It's nice to know that my fundamentals have improved enough that I can approach a model and have a chance. Now it's just a matter of continuing to improve my fundamentals, and a numbers game of not being afraid to approach more models (whom I do see occasionally, and admittedly I auto-reject them thinking it'll never work)
- Funny that the first model I approached happened to be a train approach, just like Chase's, although I didn't sleep with this one (hopefully next time!).