Flirty girls

[LoneWolf14]

So I just read this article:
https://www.girlschase.com/content/paradox-flirty-girl

In there it says that a girl needs to feel like she's superior to you in order for her to flirt with you. I find this to be incredibly silly and incorrect. Is Chase trying to say that women will only initiate flirting whenever they feel like they got you?

I'll give a recent example. There's this girl who has been giving me IOIs for a long time. She's pretty much a shy excited girl. So we were at a meeting and we sat facing each other. So I was looking around and at some point I looked at her very shortly. She saw it and kept staring at me. I eventually glanced a bit again and when I did she smiled and started making funny faces. I looked away, smirked and shook my head a little. She continued to look at me and make funny faces for a while even though I was not looking back. She was obviously playfully teasing me. So she was flirting. Are you trying to tell me that this girl is acting this way because she thinks she's higher status?

If not, what did the article mean when it said that? Are you also trying to say that if she flirts with me but acts neutral towards other guys... She likes those guys and not me?

I think that this article is quite flawed and confusing so maybe someone could explain it to me.

 

[Fuck This]

I would say an insincere flirt has to feel superior.....It is your job to make them put up or shut up...

As a natural flirt myself I recognized the asking for compliance part. One woman offered me some of her food so I knew she was sincere. Another girl I was flirting with asked me if I'd get her a beer, at that point I wasn't going to follow through on my flirts and ejected. (put up or shut up)

One memorable night I had a group of sub par chubbies from out of town send me a drink and lift their shirts from the booth they were in. I wasn't interested but I drank their beer and talked with them before I ejected. They were flirting for fun and a long shot as a group. They were prepared for rejection...and didn't care.

So don't worry about the flirty woman's mindset. Call her on it. Make her invest some sincerity in your interaction. It will weed out the time wasters fast.

 

[radeng]

I think the real lesson is that guys see iois and flirting to have meaning when in actuality they most of the time don’t mean a damn thing. But how do you know if they mean something or not? You compliance test and move the interaction forward until she ejects or sleeps with you. If you do this with every flirty girl you’ll soon realize how little flirting means and that it’s many times a sign that she won’t sleep with you. You’ll also realize how many girls that won’t flirt and won’t give iois will follow your lead all the way to the bed room. Stop placing so much meaning on flirting and just lead things forward. Also don’t get this twisted flirty girls will sometimes follow your lead to the bed room too, but just because she flirts doesn’t mean she likes you better than any other joe.

Radeng

 

[DarkKnight]

Hi Lonewolf,

I know that article inside out and I think it was written with a little more nuance than you have picked up from it. Basically it says exactly what you have written, when girls really like you they are more shy/nervous, just like the "shy excited girl" that you gave in your example. However flirty girls, flirt from a place of DOMINANCE.

I concur with the other contributors, only way to filter for real interest is by asking for compliance and pushing the interaction forward.

Also what I really liked in the "paradox of the flirty girl" article is that you can turn the table on flirty girls. I think this happens pretty much automatically when you call her bluff and stay unreactive but give her a good dose of preselection and indirect high value. If you are developing yourself as you should be, this should happen automatically, without a conscious thought. Especially when there are other girls around.

Your other question:
"Are you also trying to say that if she flirts with me but acts neutral towards other guys... She likes those guys and not me?"

NO, I don't think this is the message. The real message of the article is when a flirty girl is basically manipulating you like a puppet, she is less able to do so with guys she is genuinely attracted to because she will become nervous and is more likely to shoot herself in the foot.

There is no real reason to over analyze this. Just try to make some moves and watch if she is receptive. You CANNOT predict everything. You just have to develop a gut feeling and take small losses. The article you mentioned is really strong in my opinion, you just have to understand the subtility. Pickup is about endless calibration, even with the things you think you already know. Over and over again .

Good luck

 

[nostyle]

I would say an insincere flirt has to feel superior.....It is your job to make them put up or shut up...

As a natural flirt myself I recognized the asking for compliance part. One woman offered me some of her food so I knew she was sincere. Another girl I was flirting with asked me if I'd get her a beer, at that point I wasn't going to follow through on my flirts and ejected. (put up or shut up)

One memorable night I had a group of sub par chubbies from out of town send me a drink and lift their shirts from the booth they were in. I wasn't interested but I drank their beer and talked with them before I ejected. They were flirting for fun and a long shot as a group. They were prepared for rejection...and didn't care.

So don't worry about the flirty woman's mindset. Call her on it. Make her invest some sincerity in your interaction. It will weed out the time wasters fast.

Do you think when the girl offers a guy food she is always being sincere?

I am confused because I get this mixed signal from a coworker at work. She is always making fun of me. But she will offer me food at lunch and grab some of my food too. Like a good exchange if we order different things. She will also order a pizza online and share together with me only. She will also occasionally borrow money from me and then pay for my lunch when we go out to have lunch together. Does that mean she is sincere?

But she always asks me to make her coffee. And she will make fun of me in front of other coworkers if I tell her I will get her coffee on my way back to the office. There are so many mixed signals that I can’t tell if she is sincere or not.

 

[Fuck This]

Do you think when the girl offers a guy food she is always being sincere?

I am confused because I get this mixed signal from a coworker at work. She is always making fun of me. But she will offer me food at lunch and grab some of my food too. Like a good exchange if we order different things. She will also order a pizza online and share together with me only. She will also occasionally borrow money from me and then pay for my lunch when we go out to have lunch together. Does that mean she is sincere?

But she always asks me to make her coffee. And she will make fun of me in front of other coworkers if I tell her I will get her coffee on my way back to the office. There are so many mixed signals that I can’t tell if she is sincere or not.

Co-Worker = No go on anything romantic for me, so I don't care if she is interested in me. I'm going to treat her like one of the guys and friend zone the shit out of her. If she makes fun of me I'm going to agree and amplify. An example...

Just this weekend, my girlfriend's mother did some physical adjustments on her where her body was out of alignment like hips and pelvis.
I asked Mom, "Did you get her straightened out? "
she asked me "did you do that to her?" with a sly smile.
I just responded with a knowing smirk "That and MORE" (inferring but not actually saying we had so much sex it rearranged her pelvis)

I was not going to let my gf's mother get one up on me...

Always leave things up to the taunter and people around's imagination while saying very general things.

 

[DarkKnight]

Again I want to restate how important I think this article really is.

I recently encountered a super flirty girl, worst I have ever seen. She was strangely dominant (or trying to be lol) and on the surface seemed like she was interested. Weird thing was, I noticed her not wanting to deep dive, balking when I escalate, so I pulled back, because it was her who initiated every form of interest in the first place. When I pulled back she gave me some heavy dose of mindgames in order to get me to chase, but I outmaneuvered her and put her in a bind. Don't want to get into details there. The outrageous flirting had finally stopped.

POINT IS: If I did not read up on this article I would have been confused by her actions which would have weakened me. Maybe I would have developed feelings even. I would probably have mourned the end of her "interest", but now I really know better that I was being prepped into being a puppet. It's GOOD to put your time into the girls who REALLY like you and it is GOOD to see what is in front of you.

So yeah, the flirting stopped. And I behave nicely and politely, but I won't flirt, because that is her frame, not mine. I also think I forced her to reevaluate me from A to Z. Still like her though, as a person. Important thing is I can put my focus on all those nervous girls who want to put their hands on this STUDLY body, but don't know how to. (I'm grinning while writing this haha).

Side note: I also notice myself being more drawn unto genuine girls (not lowering my standards here), but I feel more appreciation towards genuine interest.