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For guys who are good at being the 'secret lover', how are you able to achieve this?

sejinlee09

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Hi guys. I'm not that well off financially but I do okay with women as well. I'm still improving and would like to get this lover thing down. I also would like to remain secret with the girls I meet so I don't have to deal with all the bs that comes with being a 'boyfriend'.

How do you exactly communicate this when you meet a girl?

For example, I meet a lot of girls via social circle or in my classes. And when I meet a girl, sometimes it can't be helped that I meet her friends because they're in my class.

My questions are

1. How do you communicate to a girl that you want to be the 'secret lover' guy?
2. When should you tell her? (Before/After first sex, series of sex, or when she's pushing for a relationship, etc?)
 

Rakehell

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You communicate this the second you both interact with each other. This can be before you two even speak words.

A man that a woman would even consider having as a lover comports himself in such a way that would trigger these signals in her.

Read this:How to be a Sexy Man
This: How to be a Sexual Man
And this: Sexual Framing
And this: Intrigue
Set the precedent of what you’re about very early on smoothly and subtly.

I can’t really explain it here concisely without reiterating what was in the original article or the ones I linked. I recommend reading those and the one you posted to greater understanding.
 

PalmaSailor

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Here

 

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I know this is RSD Tyler and he is supposed to be a demigod in this community but I read that article and the only thing I can say is “a bunch of bollocks”.

Looks too much like the kind of shit you get at beginners sales courses.
“Spike her emotions”… well yes, but no… it’s not that simple.

“A secret society but every girl is part of it… oh and gays too… but only the most alpha guys are allowed”…. yeah, like if all women in the world were sexually experienced and mature.

This plays a lot into the common bias that beginner seducers tend to have.
I certainly think it’s more damaging than helpful.
 

PalmaSailor

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I know this is RSD Tyler and he is supposed to be a demigod in this community but I read that article and the only thing I can say is “a bunch of bollocks”.

Looks too much like the kind of shit you get at beginners sales courses.
“Spike her emotions”… well yes, but no… it’s not that simple.

“A secret society but every girl is part of it… oh and gays too… but only the most alpha guys are allowed”…. yeah, like if all women in the world were sexually experienced and mature.

This plays a lot into the common bias that beginner seducers tend to have.
I certainly think it’s more damaging than helpful.
I don’t, I’ve found it works. ‍♂️
 

Will_V

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50% of the earth's population are members of a secret society.

Sounds legit.

I think what the author really means by 'secret society' and all the associated nomenclature is simply a basic understanding of the female perspective. It is not shrouded in secrecy but rather in the ignorance of the vast majority of men.
 

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50% of the earth's population are members of a secret society.

Sounds legit.

I think what the author really means by 'secret society' and all the associated nomenclature is simply a basic understanding of the female perspective. It is not shrouded in secrecy but rather in the ignorance of the vast majority of men.
Absolutely- it’s actually in plain sight, it’s just that almost no men can see it.

which is why actually gay men are *in it* because they have no interest in women at all so it’s a lot clearer. Their judgement isn’t clouded.
 
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Absolutely- it’s actually in plain sight, it’s just that almost no men can see it.

which is why actually gay men are *in it* because they have no interest in women at all so it’s a lot clearer. Their judgement isn’t clouded.

I think that’s pretty much biased.
To think that ALL women and ALL gay men understand instinctively something that you don’t… that’s naive to say the least.

I have seen women that have no fucking idea how dating works and are so bad at anything sex related that they honestly think they’re asexual.
I have seen gay dudes so consumed by their insecurities that they rarely get laid.

It’s like… “Hey dude, I’m doing terrible. Surely everyone is better than me.”.
Nah, life is not like that.

Anyway, I’ll stop derailing the thread. Just saying that all this “secret society” stuff gets on my nerves.
 

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I think that’s pretty much biased.
To think that ALL women and ALL gay men understand instinctively something that you don’t… that’s naive to say the least.
Men just have a hard time accepting female sexuality and disqualify themselves from getting to know that part of a woman. Making that info about her “secret” or exclusive.

I’ve never read that “RSD Tyler” article but I do know guys who have strong opinions on how women are supposed to be.

It’s like if you were into bdsm and ran into someone who thought it was the worst thing on earth. If it was someone you valued highly you probably wouldn’t bring it up if they didn’t ask.
 
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Hi guys. I'm not that well off financially but I do okay with women as well. I'm still improving and would like to get this lover thing down. I also would like to remain secret with the girls I meet so I don't have to deal with all the bs that comes with being a 'boyfriend'.

How do you exactly communicate this when you meet a girl?

For example, I meet a lot of girls via social circle or in my classes. And when I meet a girl, sometimes it can't be helped that I meet her friends because they're in my class.

My questions are

1. How do you communicate to a girl that you want to be the 'secret lover' guy?
2. When should you tell her? (Before/After first sex, series of sex, or when she's pushing for a relationship, etc?)
1.-Well it will happen after you are with many women, your stereotype, the way you walk, deep voice, the way you dress.... you need to look the part, i would start by learning this by teevester and the video also that article by tyler durden is super important as well, i also did a video on it
internalize them well to the point you know them like a song...

2.-you don't talk about it, you just don't engage in boyfriend type behaviors but lover type behaviors, eventually you will internalize those behaviors... You don't want to overdo the playerish card it will come across as try hard and women will auto reject, there is a balance that you will gain with experience... There will be a point that by your presence alone they will automatically know.

about finances, women do not know how much money you have an all that they will judge you by your behavior, read this
 
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I think that’s pretty much biased.
To think that ALL women and ALL gay men understand instinctively something that you don’t… that’s naive to say the least.

I have seen women that have no fucking idea how dating works and are so bad at anything sex related that they honestly think they’re asexual.
I have seen gay dudes so consumed by their insecurities that they rarely get laid.

It’s like… “Hey dude, I’m doing terrible. Surely everyone is better than me.”.
Nah, life is not like that.

Anyway, I’ll stop derailing the thread. Just saying that all this “secret society” stuff gets on my nerves.
it is a satirical type post but is good, you need to understand it...read teevester adaptation as i previously link is similar...
 
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