FR+ FR+ Boxer HB8 Near bar pull, assistance? Field test

[Tyme2k]

So if you read my journal, you're already aware of this girl. I will go over it agian for those who haven't and with more specifics.

Solo'd Dive Bar. Tried to get in state all night. Finally hit up a 3 set that hooks. Tease until I find my target out of two girls then semi isolate the target. We banter, I create attraction then step into rapport. We talk about how she lived in Venezuela for 2 years, has a masters degree, broke up with her boyfriend about a month ago. I teased her said OK time for a rebound lay and start walking her to the door. She actually didn't have much resistance, but she could tell I was kidding and I let her go. We continued to talk found out she has a 3 year old Boxer that is very mischievous when left alone. She adopted it in Venezuela and brought it back to the states. I found out she's in the feild she wants utilizing her Master's degree for a non-profit organization. She works out on a regular basis. Yet for some reason she was still qualifying herself to me. I took the opportunity when I saw it and started making out with her, pulling back staring into her eyes and she would giggle. I went back in and made out some more. I pulled away again leaving her wanting it!

I tried seeding a pull telling her to tell her friends I'm giving her a ride. Her objections were light, but yet I was unable to overcome them. I guess it was the gentleman inside of me that I'm trying to kill, fuck that chode retard lol. Anyways, we closed down the bar I walked her outside joking if there is a cab there we are taking it to my place. There wasn't any available cabs, otherwise I would have tried to put her in it. She was in heels and it was freezing so no way we could walk to my place. I pulled her in one more time for a makout and let her leave. Below is the text conversation that transpired:

Me 2/24 2:17a - Hey! Get home safe Tyler
Her 2:24a - Thank you I just walked in the door.
Her 2:25a - I immediately put on pajama pants
Me 2:28a - Comfy! Damage report? (her dog makes a mess when left alone)
Her 2:40a - Nothing major. She got my shoe bin out somehow from under the bed, but that's nothing.
Me 1:31p - Hey u, what are u up to this evening?
Her 2:24p Hi - I'm going to an Oscar's party a friend is having tonight.
Me 4:08p - Oh is that one of those naughty parties? If there isn't a stripper let me know ill give u guys a discount lol ;P (Not sure wtf I was thinking...)
Her 4:31p - Lol I don't think I've ever seen a male stripper in real life....
Her 4:31p - Maybe I have but I've blocked the memory
Me 8:37p - Hey, lets chill an evening after work this week. Not too late tho I work early. Mon or Tues I have a bit..
Her 2/25 1:19p - I don't think I can... My work week is intense :/

Now yesterday I think I burnt it to the ground, but I was expecting she wouldn't text back. Now that she has, I'm wondering my next move. My thoughts are; This is definitely a blow off without any sign of further interest, If I am going to persist for a meet I will have to show non neediness and that my time is scarce. Theres a couple routes I could take; Simple not requesting another meet, telling her to text me when she's free(problem I see with this I'm super busy), or throwing out that we do something sat evening or sunday. No matter what I do I'm not texting her until tomorrow.

Text I saved as a draft "Cool, my work week is also pretty intense."

I'm definitely willing to test an expirement for ressurection on this one. Attraction is definitely there and once I get a meet it should go fairly smooth.

 

[MonsieurLabrie]

This might hurt a little, but its for your own good.

We talk about how she lived in Venezuela for 2 years, has a masters degree, broke up with her boyfriend about a month ago. I teased her said OK time for a rebound lay and start walking her to the door. She actually didn't have much resistance, but she could tell I was kidding and I let her go.

-1 Sexyness pt
+1 Goof point

It would have been better to just mentally note that she was ready for a sexy man to sweep her off her feet and continue rapport as normal and go into deep dive.

We continued to talk found out she has a 3 year old Boxer that is very mischievous when left alone. She adopted it in Venezuela and brought it back to the states. I found out she's in the feild she wants utilizing her Master's degree for a non-profit organization. She works out on a regular basis. Yet for some reason she was still qualifying herself to me. I took the opportunity when I saw it and started making out with her, pulling back staring into her eyes and she would giggle. I went back in and made out some more. I pulled away again leaving her wanting it!

She was very lonely. She really needed some love badly and you helped her nicely, but you could have helped her more by bringing her home first.

I tried seeding a pull telling her to tell her friends I'm giving her a ride. Her objections were light, but yet I was unable to overcome them.

I'm willing to bet she would have had even less objections without the fake pull joke and the makeouts, maybe none at all.

I guess it was the gentleman inside of me that I'm trying to kill, fuck that chode retard lol.

Yes, get rid of him. You don't need him at all. Bring him out only after sex.

Anyways, we closed down the bar I walked her outside joking if there is a cab there we are taking it to my place. There wasn't any available cabs, otherwise I would have tried to put her in it. She was in heels and it was freezing so no way we could walk to my place. I pulled her in one more time for a makout and let her leave.

+1 Gentleman pt
-1 Sexiness pt

Below is the text conversation that transpired:

Me 2/24 2:17a - Hey! Get home safe Tyler
Her 2:24a - Thank you I just walked in the door.

+1 Caring nice guy pt
-1 Sexiness pt

Her 2:25a - I immediately put on pajama pants

Ouch! Pajamas evoke teddy bears, not hot passionate sex. Not a good sign at all.

Me 2:28a - Comfy! Damage report? (her dog makes a mess when left alone)
Her 2:40a - Nothing major. She got my shoe bin out somehow from under the bed, but that's nothing.
Me 1:31p - Hey u, what are u up to this evening?
Her 2:24p Hi - I'm going to an Oscar's party a friend is having tonight.

Here you're still telegraphing clear interest. You basically did from the start, and attraction is tanking.

Me 4:08p - Oh is that one of those naughty parties? If there isn't a stripper let me know ill give u guys a discount lol ;P (Not sure wtf I was thinking...)
Her 4:31p - Lol I don't think I've ever seen a male stripper in real life....
Her 4:31p - Maybe I have but I've blocked the memory

Attempts to reintroduce a sexy frame after attraction has already dipped often backfire, especially through text. Sexy men don't need to do this kind of stuff, and women instinctively know that.

I suggest you study this post carefully: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-text-girl

Me 8:37p - Hey, lets chill an evening after work this week. Not too late tho I work early. Mon or Tues I have a bit..
Her 2/25 1:19p - I don't think I can... My work week is intense :/

This text should have come more early. You also need to cut most of that useless texting that's hurting your game.

At this point, you chased her too much and have too big of a nice guy vibe. I don't see how you could turn that around, unfortunately.

Now yesterday I think I burnt it to the ground, but I was expecting she wouldn't text back. Now that she has, I'm wondering my next move. My thoughts are; This is definitely a blow off without any sign of further interest, If I am going to persist for a meet I will have to show non neediness and that my time is scarce. Theres a couple routes I could take; Simple not requesting another meet, telling her to text me when she's free(problem I see with this I'm super busy), or throwing out that we do something sat evening or sunday. No matter what I do I'm not texting her until tomorrow.

Text I saved as a draft "Cool, my work week is also pretty intense."

I'm definitely willing to test an expirement for ressurection on this one. Attraction is definitely there and once I get a meet it should go fairly smooth.

Attraction is gone I would say. I don't think she will meet you.

What I would do if I were you is ask her to introduce you to new people. This would relieve the pressure that she feels from your chasing and would allow you to access her girl friends with her vouching for you.

Keep meeting more girls and work on not being so nice and accomodating. It will do wonders for you, I promise.
Godspeed!
M. Labrie

 

[Tyme2k]

Nice breakdown, it's very sad how many sexiness points I lost lol. I will take all those comments into suggestion. I totally pushed for nice guy vibe today. She ignored my last text again to meet up so I sent some stupid chode stuff that worked with my other girls. Still no response.

She needed sex/a hookup not some needy fag like I came off to be. This only happens to me with girls I'm really interested in.

I do have a question maybe you or someone could answer, how to safely propose introduction to friends. This is something I've never tried before and not sure which situations it could work. Could it work if you're not interested in her, but she's interested in you? Or does it only work with girls you like, attraction is dead and you aren't going to chase?

How would a suggestion like this look?

 

[MonsieurLabrie]

I do have a question maybe you or someone could answer, how to safely propose introduction to friends. This is something I've never tried before and not sure which situations it could work. Could it work if you're not interested in her, but she's interested in you? Or does it only work with girls you like, attraction is dead and you aren't going to chase?

How would a suggestion like this look?

On girls that are chasing you hard, it sends them into auto-rejection, so its not advised.

But in a situation like yours, it could clear the pressure you put upon her. I would formulate it like this:

"Hey Boxergirl, I think I might have come on too strong. I'm sorry, sometimes I get carried away. Anyways, since it didn't work out you and me, maybe you could introduce me to some of your friends some time when you go out. I'm still looking for love. T."

This would accomplish a few things:
1- Show her you "get it" and won't be one of those clueless guys who harass her for months with unwanted texts
2- Use her image of you as a safe guy to your benefit
3- Get her to actually respond to you, because you've admitted defeat and won't pressure her to go on a date anymore

It's a crapshoot really. It might work or not. I wouldn't change the wording if I were you. Don't try to add in any hope of you too getting together, because it would defeat the purpose and probably fail. And even if it does work, the quality of her available friends might be bad. It's really up to you if you think it's worth it.