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FR+/FU: Almost a LR, escalating my sticking point

Mr. Wes

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Wednesday January 15, 2014

Ugh I'm still kinda embarrassed and frustrated about this...but here goes. :/
To keep it short, I'll cut out all the other interactions I had today and just keep it on this girl. Maybe I'll add the others in later.

I first see this girl on the bus ride to the college. I get on the bus and sit in a seat and don't really pay attention to my surroundings in the back. I normally sit first, look around and see what's around me after. So I'm looking around and then I see this cute girl with jet black hair sitting behind me. I glance quick and try not to stare so I don't get a good look. Maybe two more times, I glance back again to see what she looks like. She's cute.

We get to the college and we get off the bus, she gets off with me. Along with a lot of other people. From the corner of my eye, I notice that she has a really nice body but I can't see well because it's my peripherals. I let her walk ahead of me so I can get a good look. She walks ahead and she is SEXY. Wearing yoga tights, boots, a tank top with these huge boobs peeking out a little. Sunglasses and she has a striped red button down shirt over her tank top. Buttoned up to her boobs making a V-neck.
I didn't feel like approaching yet and I let her go. She ended up walking into the girls restroom.
I walked around the general area a bit and fast forward to when she comes out of the bathroom.
She walks out and puts her sunglasses back on. I stop her.
Me: "hey, I saw you earlier on the bus...you're cute."
Her: oh thank you..(fixing herself)
Me: what's your name?
Her: (name)
Me: I'm Wes. (shakes her hand, her hands are cold and wet but I notice how cold they are and I'm about to say something but--)
Her: oh sorry, my hands are wet!
Me: it's okay, haha what in the world were you DOING in there? ;)
Her: (she realizes what I mean) oh (she makes a shocked face and smiles)
Me: don't worry, I'll keep it a secret between me and you ;)
Her: haha okay.
Me: yea, I was just going to say that your hands were cold..that's all.
After that we just small talked a little. Conversation flowed, I got her talking a little about herself. Then I said:
You seem pretty cool, I would love to take you on a coffee date sometime.
Her: ohh...idk how my boyfriend would feel about that.
Me: (time to test this out) what makes you think I'm trying to take his place?
Her: (she has a shocked face and then it turn into a reassured face like I just passed a test of hers or something) okay.
Me: so...how about I take your number...and then when you're free, we go out sometime. (silence and eye contact)

We stood there in silence for a few seconds and then she said okay.
I pull out my phone. She gives me the first three numbers and we get to talking about something else for a little bit but then snap out of it and I finish getting her number. She says: okay well text me your name, alright :)
Me: alright. (I hold out my hand for her to shake it)
She holds out hers to shake it but then I raise her hand in the air and twirl her around. She giggles and says: oh I thought we were shaking hands!
Then after I finish twirling her I pull her in and give her a sexual hug.
Me: naw I'm making you my ballerina, then hugging you. :)
She laughs. Then we part ways.

Two minutes later, I send her a text saying: Hey (name) its Wes...save my number :)

Her reply: done :)
I don't send back after.
I did lots more approaches after that but they're for another post. Fast forward later and then I send her another text saying:
What's your schedule look like for the week?
She replies telling me when she's at school and what times.

I didn't reply immediately...instead I walked around campus for a little bit and then to my surprise I see her sitting at a picnic table studying under some palm trees.
I walk over to her and say: so I was walking down the street, moving my feet and then I see (her name) over in this seat...I think my life's complete.
She smiles
Her: heyyy.
Me: I can't think of anything else that rhymes with street. Wassup? (I sit down)
Her: not much, studying for trigonometry. You're still here?
Then we go into talking about unimportant things...deep dived a little. Then I bring up the text. I say: so when did you say you were free?
She tells me the schedule and then I think about it in my head. She's free for the next 3 hours and she's spending it here studying. What a waste. So I say:
Well since you're free for the next 3 hours, wanna ride the bus home with me and chill until your next class?
Her: okay :)

I was thrown off by this and a surge of anxiety and adrenaline rushed through my body. I got nervous immediately but my face stayed calm. My whole demeanor was VERY calm and collected and my fundamentals were ON POINT. I could tell because ever since I first met her earlier she seemed nervous and excited.
Then she asked me when we were going to go. (and I forgot to mention that earlier she asked where I lived so I WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. Noticed that escalation window)
I told her that the next bus comes in about 20 minutes, while I was checking my phone's clock.
She says: alright, I'm just going to finish studying first and then we'll go.
Me: alright, well just meet me over by the bus stop at around (time)
Her: alright, I'll set a reminder in my phone.
Me: okay cool (I get up and linger for a bit, she stares at me nervously and with excitement...like she wants me to do something.)
Then I walk away.
Fast forward again to 20 minutes later. (lol I went and cold approached more girls during this time)
And I see her in the distance heading toward the bus stop.
I start walking to the bus stop as well and sit down there.
She walks up to me sitting and we're smiling at each other.
Me: heyy, you made it :)
Her: yea :) (she sits down)
Then she starts freaking out about her sunglasses. She thinks she lost them and then she searches her purse. She finds them and then puts them on.
Me: aw, covering up your beautiful eyes?
Her: haha..you'll see them later.
I use the sunglasses to transition into talking about Florida weather and the sun and blah blah and we small talk and I begin to deep dive.
The bus comes and I continue with the deep diving on the bus like its the most natural thing to do.
We talk about many things and I'm just trying to keep this short so I won't go Into detail about it. I remember throwing out a sexual innuendo but she didn't respond to it. And she mentioned her boyfriend once and I saw the background of her phone which was of her and her boyfriend kissing. I figured maybe he's a bad lover or something because she's going home with ME. :)

We get off at my stop and then go into the neighborhood. I get her inside the apartment and then hold a shh finger to my mouth. I walk over to my moms room and say hello to her while my hand is on her doorknob and I'm trying to close her door a little bit.
My mom notices and she's like: why are you trying to close my door?
Me: oh, that's by accident sorry. (I let go of it and leave it in a position where it's almost closed)
If her door was wide open she would see the girl I had with me and I didn't know how my mom would feel about that. I also didn't expect her to be home. This same shit happened the last time I had a girl over. My mom's boyfriend was home and I freaked out and couldn't get the girl to my room so I made her leave. Not letting THAT happen again.
Then I led girl to my room and shut the door.
My room has no chairs and it's just my bed, a dresser, and a nightstand. I had my skateboards and shoes all over the floor and I said: excuse the mess...
She was like its fine and she sat on my bed. (ha. Ha. Ha.)

This is when I got weird and stopped being so cool and collected. I was genuinely nervous and excited and I couldn't believe I had gotten her this far. THIS STUFF REALLY WORKS. You just gotta follow the process. I sat down on the bed with her. Then she asked me where the bathroom was.
I said right outside my door and she went really quick and came back.
I went to the kitchen while she was in there and got us both some bottled water. I offered her a water and she took it and started drinking.
Then I noticed her boots on and said that she had to take her boots off because we don't walk around in shoes in this house and she said: oh! Okay! I'm sorry. (and she hurriedly took them off)
She got them off and started talking about how now her outfit doesn't look complete without the boots and I told her it was fine. We got to small talking and I showed her my artwork (because we had been talking about art earlier and she's an artist herself) I used it as a way for us to sit closer and I was rubbing my palm against her leg. She looked down at my hand but didn't do anything.
She let out a nervous laugh.
I was like: what is it?
Her: nothing..it's just this is so weird.
I apologized (forehead smack! This is we here it went downhill. I needed to calm down)

All I could think about was the fact that she was in my room, ON MY BED. And I could possibly be HAVING sex with her in a few minutes. I just need to initiate it because of course she's not going to do it.
I struggled to find topics to talk about. I was looking for something that could help me smoothly transition to kissing her.
I even talked about her relationship and how long they've been together (4 months) and she was like: why are we talking about my boyfriend? Then I changed the subject.
Then I got silent and turned my voice into my bedroom voice and talked softly and sexily. Her eyes were locked on mine in excitement and anticipation. I noticed that my fundamentals were still ON POINT and I STILL was calm and collected on the outside but INSIDE, my heart was beating like a million times per second and I was freaking out. It didn't even cross my mind that I should stay calm. All I could think of was DON'T MESS UP.
Then I grabbed her and pulled her closer to me and leaned in and started kissing her. She wasn't kissing back and was moving her face back as I kept trying to kiss her. I stopped and looked at her.
Her: um...I don't do that with anybody other than with my boyfriend.
Me: oh? So you don't kiss anybody on the lips except for your boyfriend?
Her: yes. That's for him.
I took this as she'll fuck other guys but won't kiss them. Just like a previous girl I brought home with me. It's this weird rule girls have but whatever.
Then I looked her in the eyes and said calmly: I don't want you to feel uncomfortable alright?
She silently gazed back into mine with a reassured face.
I moved back in and instead started kissing her neck. I started running my hands on her body and had my hand on her big plump boob. Didn't even get to squeeze that beautiful thing yet either :(
She then stopped me and said: I think I'm going to go...
I stayed calm (but was freaking out internally) and said: like I said...I don't want you to feel uncomfortable...and I'm not trying to take your boyfriend's place.
She paused as she was putting on her boots and stared at me trying to process what was going on.
I feel like I should've escalated here as well. But for some reason I chalked this up as a failure and gave up early. My heart beating was out of control and I'm surprised she couldn't HEAR it.
She got up off my bed and walked towards my door.
Her: I'm sorry..I just don't want to cheat on my boyfriend.
Me: the next bus doesn't come until an hour.
She checks her phone for the bus schedules.
Her: I think I'll just wait outside for it.
Me: I'm sorry if I made you uncomfortable (my past nice guy started coming out and I'm apologizing and shit)
I walk with her to the door and open it for her. She lingers at the door for a minute. (I realize now...another escalation window)
Before she went out I grabbed her and hugged her. She stayed hugging me and had her mouth near my neck. Kinda felt like she was kissing it. Then I started kissing her neck, then I moved down to her boobs. She jerked away and then walked outside and kept walking and didn't look back.
After she was out of sight, I closed the door and kicked myself in anger. UGH!
I'm such an idiot.
I turn around and my mom is standing there and she's like: what are you doing?
And I'm like: oh nothing...I thought I saw someone outside that I knew.
Mom: oh okay. (shrugs it off and goes in her room) lol

I text the girl 20 minutes later or so: "did you make it to the bus safely?" (inner nice guy coming out again)
She texts back a few minutes later: yep.

So guys, that's what I've been up to today and i would really like some feedback. This is the first time I've had a girl over since June of 2013. I think part of my anxiety was the fact that my mom was in the other room, but other than that, I don't know why I was so nervous. I'm still so mad at myself but I have a date with another girl on Monday so wish me luck.
I guess escalating is my sticking point. I've never had sex before so I'm still trying to figure out how this is supposed to go.
Did I do fine?
 

Mr. Wes

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Casanova.Jr said:
Wesley,

Props to you for taking her home, but just like getting the number or a date doesn't mean she's a sure thing. I get the feeling that with a little more persistence you can overcome the resistance. (Rhymes)

One thing Chase has said before was that you should never apologize for escalating on a girl, the dominant guys never would.

If escalation is a sticking point, keep at it until it becomes a second nature.

This is gold.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/take ... escalation


Good luck with Monday's girl, rock her world ;)




-Casanova

Thanks Casanova. Check out the journal to see the girl I'm dating on Monday.
Also thanks for the link. I've been searching for the articles on escalating.
Turns out, this girl is friends with the girl from April that I brought home. She's is friends with that whole social circle and lives on the same side of town. That side of town is known to have sexually liberated girls (who others call sluts)
 

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Some people see things like this as a failure. I try to see them as learning points. You know where you went wrong and you have the material to fix it. And it sounds like this would have been a LR if she didn't have a boyfriend. You did a lot of things right here, and while getting that close and losing her is tough, you still managed to get that close. With a good amount of girls, just getting them to that point is enough for a LR. I know, because I went through the same thing. Its great that you can get that far, and you're working on how to get the other girls.

Keep your chin up man.
 

-B-

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First off Wes, I have to say that ur opening game sounds solid! I really like your bold, to the point, and playful fun style. Some quick stuff on your feet too that I enjoyed. I really liked the ballerina spin thing. Also I when I was reading this I was like “I cant believe this guy just takes these girls home while his mom's home keeping them from seeing each other like some kinda B comedy movie situation... This guys a WILD MAN, someone get him a cowboy hat!”

Okay so the only input I have for you is on the escalation once you got her in your room. Once you get alone together I think you have to get things moving right away, the more you talk about other stuff and chill, the more you are gonna have to bring up the physical escalation out of nowhere. Im new to seductions like this but ill tell you what has really worked for me. At this point you think its on you to seduce her and completely set the tone, even though this girl showed you a whole bunch interest, positive signs and if I remembered right was aware you were going somewhere alone together. To start things off I just call out the girls on positive signs they are showing to me preferably in the moment or signs they showed to me in the past. Of course you do this all with a sly smile on your face, sexual tone of voice and body language and keep it from being too intimidating and intense. Stuff like

“Amy haha, why are you playing with your hair and looking at me like that?”

“haha what are you smiling at me like that for?”

“Why are you fidgiting like that, you look so nervous right now”

why did you do such and such, basically just work with anything you can get. What will usually happen is they will get little nervous and flustered and struggle to respond if you apply enough pressure. At this point you should feel pretty dominant and be cool to make a big move. I would go for something like

(if you can set her up to ask chuckle and smile a little)

Her: what?

(get more and intense)

“....You know Amy.... not a lot of girls are confident and brave enough to go home alone with a Guy they just met... like you did with me right now?”

“Its interesting to me... you just seemed so cool and comfortable coming here with me like this”

she might some stupid negative shit here, or get really intense or nervous

“Im curious Amy, why did you come here?........ What do you think would happen here?.......... What do you thinks gonna happen right now?”

She says or does something and you dont even acknowledge it. preferably interrupt her cause it might be something negative even if shes feeling it.

“.... Was it something like this?”

Agressively pull her in and kiss her and dominate the shit out of her.


She came home with you because she was feeling you, and coming up with contrived answers to these questions is gonna be a bit difficult and actually get her thinking why she actually did this stuff. She knew what was going down between the two of you and what you wanted, she was feeling it too and went along even though she knew she had a boyfriend. Why not use that? It shouldn't be all on you when it comes to the physical escalation and she shouldn't be able to just play dumb and be like woah whats this... I have a BF
 

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Im stealing your line for when she has a b.f. It's gold! I hope the stuff I recommended helped. This failed lay reminds me of a when I tried escalating with a chick in my college's bathroom but I got nervous and ended up messing up and loosing my chance to get laid. Looks like direct works fine for u. Good job either way man. Dont go for her boobs directly next time , kiss her neck, grab her ass, make her wet with your touch first then go for the Intimate areas. ASD kicked in that's why her reaction.
 

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Wesley,

Don't be embarrassed. Cool FR, it sounds like great learning. You got pretty close! You should be proud of that. =)

Wesley said:
Her: ohh...idk how my boyfriend would feel about that.
Me: (time to test this out) what makes you think I'm trying to take his place?
Her: (she has a shocked face and then it turn into a reassured face like I just passed a test of hers or something) okay.
Me: so...how about I take your number...and then when you're free, we go out sometime. (silence and eye contact)

Great response to her deflection, and great job following process to this point also. Might be stealing this line.

Wesley said:
I was thrown off by this and a surge of anxiety and adrenaline rushed through my body. I got nervous immediately but my face stayed calm. My whole demeanor was VERY calm and collected and my fundamentals were ON POINT. I could tell because ever since I first met her earlier she seemed nervous and excited.
Then she asked me when we were going to go. (and I forgot to mention that earlier she asked where I lived so I WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. Noticed that escalation window)

Incredible. So far she's DTF.

I want to analyze when she's at home with you:

Wesley said:
Then I led girl to my room and shut the door.
My room has no chairs and it's just my bed, a dresser, and a nightstand. I had my skateboards and shoes all over the floor and I said: excuse the mess...
She was like its fine and she sat on my bed. (ha. Ha. Ha.)

So far so good, though I think she should have taken her boots off before she even came into her room, or the moment she came in. This way it wouldn't have been awkward later.

So boots off -> go to the bathroom -> water -> come to your room...is how I think it should be done. This is minor, though.

Wesley said:
Then she asked me where the bathroom was.
I said right outside my door and she went really quick and came back.
I went to the kitchen while she was in there and got us both some bottled water. I offered her a water and she took it and started drinking.
Then I noticed her boots on and said that she had to take her boots off because we don't walk around in shoes in this house and she said: oh! Okay! I'm sorry. (and she hurriedly took them off)

Now this:

Wesley said:
She got them off and started talking about how now her outfit doesn't look complete without the boots and I told her it was fine. We got to small talking and I showed her my artwork (because we had been talking about art earlier and she's an artist herself) I used it as a way for us to sit closer and I was rubbing my palm against her leg. She looked down at my hand but didn't do anything.
She let out a nervous laugh.

First of all, good job ramping up escalation. THIS MOMENT is when you should have kissed her, imo. If not her lips, you could have leaned in and start breathing into her neck or biting/nibbling her ear or neck. This is the Kissing window.

-B- said:
I was like: what is it?
Her: nothing..it's just this is so weird.
I apologized (forehead smack! This is we here it went downhill. I needed to calm down)

This is her verbalizing the sexual tension in the room. It's also your indication that there WAS an escalation window just a moment ago. You shouldn't apologize. You actually could have used this as a moment to throw a chase or sexual frame, i.e. blame her for what's going on in a subtle sexual way. "Why are you trying to seduce me?" or something like that. I think with her statement though, whatever you say cannot confirm the frame of "this is so weird," so it has to be something that negates that and makes it exciting/like she's chasing you.

Wesley said:
All I could think about was the fact that she was in my room, ON MY BED. And I could possibly be HAVING sex with her in a few minutes. I just need to initiate it because of course she's not going to do it.
I struggled to find topics to talk about. I was looking for something that could help me smoothly transition to kissing her.
I even talked about her relationship and how long they've been together (4 months) and she was like: why are we talking about my boyfriend? Then I changed the subject.

IMO, this is not good. Don't talk about her boyfriend when she's in your bed with you. Unless she brings it up after sex; it COULD be okay if she brings it up before (like PrettyDecent's recent journal entry) but either way YOU shouldn't talk about it. That's my opinion. I think you stalled out in this moment and then bringing up her boyfriend (and her even questioning it) took her out of the spell.

Wesley said:
Then I grabbed her and pulled her closer to me and leaned in and started kissing her. She wasn't kissing back and was moving her face back as I kept trying to kiss her. I stopped and looked at her.
Her: um...I don't do that with anybody other than with my boyfriend.
Me: oh? So you don't kiss anybody on the lips except for your boyfriend?
Her: yes. That's for him.
I took this as she'll fuck other guys but won't kiss them. Just like a previous girl I brought home with me. It's this weird rule girls have but whatever.

In this situation, go for turning on other body parts first, stay off the lips for now. Had this happen last month with a girl who had just broken up with her BF, wasn't comfortable with lip kissing but was 100% okay with me touching everything else however I wanted to. It was educational, I had no idea girls did that, but I suppose they do. So if she's not complying with lips early but is still turned on and into being physical with you (like this girl was), before she can deflect go for her neck, ears, or give her a really nice massage (with ass grabbing and neck biting) before going for her lips. Prime her for intimacy that way.

Anyway, I think you made really good progress and hope you consider this as good learning, because it is. Don't fret over it, it was a positive failure from what it looks like!
 

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Thanks xcrunner,
Yea it seems like I was being hard on myself but I'm over it now and I definitely see it as a learning opportunity. The anger and frustration only lasted the rest of that day and the next morning.

-B- thanks man. Yea I really dislike going indirect and only do it if I have to. I like getting to the point.
Sounds like a great idea (your suggestions for escalating) although, if I say it wrong, it could come out as creepy. Lol
I'll give it a try though. I was also thinking maybe I didn't get her comfortable enough being in my place and o wthere was still awkwardness in the air. Need to ease her into it.

Eternity. Yea definitely. I forgot to add that I also said " I'm not trying to take his place, so you can tell him he has nothing to worry about."
If she wants to dive deeper into what I mean by that, I'd say how she won't see me ever again and we can be lovers for a short time and experience something she's never experienced before.

Ozzo, noted. Thanks for your advice and feedback guys.
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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Missed this one Wesley, thanks for directing me to it.

I just read it through, and you have no business whatever being "down in the dumps" about it. I know how bad a near-miss feels, but bringing a girl home in cold approach is pretty damn impressive... very few men can actually do that at all.

Now, go back and read carefully, again, the suggestions that -B- gave you. Better still, search his posts and read them all. That cat really knows his shit. Looks like he joined the forum some time in the past couple months and he's been handing out golden advice like it's candy. With the exception of the hair thing, it's all extremely solid stuff.
 

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Well since you're free for the next 3 hours, wanna ride the bus home with me and chill until your next class?
Her: okay :)

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Huge compliance from her with such little face-time + zero token/genuine resistance

I took this as she'll fuck other guys but won't kiss them. Just like a previous girl I brought home with me. It's this weird rule girls have but whatever.

I just watched a documentary on brothels that talked about this. The girls don't kiss clients because it's their way of avoiding any sort of emotional attachment. I had no idea girls outside of that occupation did that...wow...that's some secret society material right there.

This whole story was so out of my reality. Thanks for the share.

Her: ohh...idk how my boyfriend would feel about that.
Me: (time to test this out) what makes you think I'm trying to take his place?
Her: (she has a shocked face and then it turn into a reassured face like I just passed a test of hers or something) okay.

Do you think she was lying about having boyfriend?
 

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Marty said:
Missed this one Wesley, thanks for directing me to it.

I just read it through, and you have no business whatever being "down in the dumps" about it. I know how bad a near-miss feels, but bringing a girl home in cold approach is pretty damn impressive... very few men can actually do that at all.

Now, go back and read carefully, again, the suggestions that -B- gave you. Better still, search his posts and read them all. That cat really knows his shit. Looks like he joined the forum some time in the past couple months and he's been handing out golden advice like it's candy. With the exception of the hair thing, it's all extremely solid stuff.

Thanks Marty. i've read it multiple times and read it again. Trying to make it stick. Hopefully I'm not coming off as really negative because that's not the case. What I mean by "down in the dumps" is just unmotivated to go out right now. For the past two days I've stayed inside browsing the Internet, reading articles, and watching videos. I just felt like I could never get THAT lucky again, because...how many times can that happen? But no worries, I went back out today. I didn't get as great of progress as then but I did fine today.
 

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I took this as she'll fuck other guys but won't kiss them. Just like a previous girl I brought home with me. It's this weird rule girls have but whatever.

I just watched a documentary on brothels that talked about this. The girls don't kiss clients because it's their way of avoiding any sort of emotional attachment. I had no idea girls outside of that occupation did that...wow...that's some secret society material right there.

This whole story was so out of my reality. Thanks for the share.

Her: ohh...idk how my boyfriend would feel about that.
Me: (time to test this out) what makes you think I'm trying to take his place?
Her: (she has a shocked face and then it turn into a reassured face like I just passed a test of hers or something) okay.

Do you think she was lying about having boyfriend?

Yea I think I've seen a documentary like that too. Very strange but I understand.its just I'm very confused about how to sexually escalate without kissing...I'm guessing you just caress the womans body and rub her pussy "Ricardus" style until she gets wet enough to penetrate. But I can also see a lot of resistance doing it that way. Usually kissing is like a distraction in my eyes. Her eyes are closed and she's enjoying herself while my hands are doing all the arousing. Then eventually she can't take it anymore and begs me to fuck her/finger her/make her cum.

And yes she did have a boyfriend. On her phone's background was a picture of her and him kissing. He's a muscular Asian guy who obviously works out. He was attractive but also looked kinda douche-y (if I were to judge by looks). My first thought was that maybe she wasn't enjoying sex because of the "problem" Asian men "stereotypically" have. I know that's not completely true because not all black guys are anacondas (I'm average). and I feel like she wanted to "try" me for a change.
 

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Hey Wesley,

Wesley said:
Me: (time to test this out) what makes you think I'm trying to take his place?

Boss as fuck. Really nice.

And your cute little song was funny. Very playful.

Wesley said:
Me: aw, covering up your beautiful eyes?
Her: haha..you'll see them later.

Translation: "my eyes won't be the only naked body part later."

Wesley said:
She stayed hugging me and had her mouth near my neck. Kinda felt like she was kissing it. Then I started kissing her neck, then I moved down to her boobs. She jerked away and then walked outside and kept walking and didn't look back.
After she was out of sight, I closed the door and kicked myself in anger. UGH!

You recognize what you missed. Can't think of a better failure than that. Persevere, dawg!!

Wesley said:
She paused as she was putting on her boots and stared at me trying to process what was going on.

THIS is where you do the hard-press. Give a little speech OR you can try a compliance ladder that Chase suggested to me in my Slovak Police Officer LR.

For example

Me - "Hey, stop for a second" (she was already pausing and staring at you)

Me - "Relax and sit down for" (can even add in "for a second" to make it more aggreable)

Her - "Okay"

Me - [insert speech talking about how taking advantage of the now is better than waiting for a day that may never come]

Her - however she responds; if she objects, then

Me - "You seem to like me. Otherwise, you never would have come back here with me. You felt the connection earlier, just like I feel one now. Knowing someone for a short period of time doesn't dictate how you feel or how others say you should feel." (the last bit sets up a discretion frame, an "us vs them" frame, as well as a non-judgmental frame).

Look at her with bedroom eyes that imply something like "come on, be honest with yourself" but in warm, non-accusatory fashion.


And then kiss her. Escalate as you see fit from there.




You're doing just fine, man. Like Marty said, we need to remember that we've already established ourselves among the highest echelon of men in the world who go for what they want and will tear themselves to pieces to become their vision: one who is free and has mastered their desires.


May you become powerful beyond measure,

Anatman
 
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