FR/LR: NYE stories

[stratvm]

went out NYE with client, girls secondary importance (it`s just an excuse really)

SCENE 1: pick up place

- asked random girl with big boobs `how are the twins?` - laughed, smiled answered they are fine thank you. didn't push though I should have - again I had excuse why not

SCENE 2: best place in my country, in fact one of the best venues ive been incl. London and Dubai, reopened yesterday only

random girl 1 (turned out to be a model):
- went to the tap, ordered drink, asked my client what he wanted in English then ordered in Hungarian
- very high class n beautiful girl in very expensive clothes next to me was closer than I felt comfortable with so I asked her if we knew each other, striked up the conversation
- asked `how are the twins`, my favourite there, she didn't understand so I pointed out her boobs, smiled and hide them
- got physical extra fast, asked her if I could taste her drink, let me do it 2x, was comfortable with me holding my hand on the small of her back
- after like 10-15mins I should have pulled her I think, this is the point when I just cant move yet, also think I bragged too much
- so I went for the number, she told me she wasn't comfortable giving numbers to strangers but told her name and said `if you wanted you could find me` then excused herself with the usual `im going to leave now but I come back`

*** aftermath: added her on facebook, started a convo, hasn't replied yet my aim is to friendzone her now and get acces to her friends as im pretty sure she wanted to be pulled
*** lesson learnt: beautiful girls are just girls

i feel sorry for this story and while i hope there will be some continuity i think its over - this overshadows the events of the last 2 days

random girl 2
- was standing at the tap, striked up a convo
- soon were quite close in fact surprisingly close though she didnt let me go as physical as girl 1
- dragged me out, introduced to all of her friends, spoke a bit
- i suggested to go to somewhere quiet, told me she was there with boyfriend, tried to verify if this was true, probably yes
- exchanged numbers and discussed she contacts me if things change

*** getting phone numbers is not that big deal but i find it pretty pointless in nightgame other than building social circle with women


LR online dating, girl wasnt as she loked like (use webcam guys to weed out the crap)

- met in restaurant, ate&drank (didnt mind its free for me anyway here)
- got physical very fast
- talked about cialis&viagra and their effect on women - was huge turn on for her
- told her to go somewhere quiet with nice views (i told her my story last time with the LMR girl), said no a few times but at the end she said ok
- went to flat, made her take down shoes, kissed here within 10 minutes then escalated
- i had to find a way to get what i want (i wanted a blowjob from her), at the end she was completely in (Chase was right again, if you make her grab your dick, she gives up all resistance, also she didnt like that i was undressing her but she was absolutely turned on that i put her hands into my shirt and then unbuttoned the stuff and then took her hand into my pants & let her touch the stuff)
- she had to leave afterwards

*** no lessons here only that their bitch shield is up in clubs while online dates dont expect getting laid 1st time
*** now I really see that if you pull someone you can do it within 30mins max 1h

tomorrow i date another girl but wont really have time to do anything as i need to leave to the airport. all in all thanks to gc.com im slowly getting there though i still find this whole stuff very difficult.

 

[Ross]

random girl 1 (turned out to be a model):
- went to the tap, ordered drink, asked my client what he wanted in English then ordered in Hungarian
- very high class n beautiful girl in very expensive clothes next to me was closer than I felt comfortable with so I asked her if we knew each other, striked up the conversation
- asked `how are the twins`, my favourite there, she didn't understand so I pointed out her boobs, smiled and hide them
- got physical extra fast, asked her if I could taste her drink, let me do it 2x, was comfortable with me holding my hand on the small of her back
- after like 10-15mins I should have pulled her I think, this is the point when I just cant move yet, also think I bragged too much
- so I went for the number, she told me she wasn't comfortable giving numbers to strangers but told her name and said `if you wanted you could find me` then excused herself with the usual `im going to leave now but I come back`

*** aftermath: added her on facebook, started a convo, hasn't replied yet my aim is to friendzone her now and get acces to her friends as im pretty sure she wanted to be pulled

When you ordered in Hungarian did you initiate any acknowledgement of her before you ordered in Hungarian? If you initiated some eye contact or speech with her and then proceeded to attempt to "show off" your language skills by showing you are diverse, which looks a little try hard. But if you did this before acknowledging her it would be great for pre-selection, but the key is to make she doesn't know you are trying to impress her.

The tendency to brag a lot around beautiful women that you feel are out of your league is a nasty habit that's hard to break. As you said, remember they are just another woman.

Something that sticks out to me is that you never introduced your name; that's one of the first things you should do, or at least give her something to remember you by. Without names you are definitely still strangers, and you should seek to learn names.

Tip for aftermath: you need to offer value in order to get value back. I haven't been friends with many women that I haven't hooked up with, and have only been close friends with those that I have hooked up with. It may sound weird, but sleeping and then becoming close friends is a good option because she will already have a great deal of respect for you if you left her with no regrets. It also happens a lot when they realize you aren't going to commit to a relationship.

random girl 2
- was standing at the tap, striked up a convo
- soon were quite close in fact surprisingly close though she didnt let me go as physical as girl 1
- dragged me out, introduced to all of her friends, spoke a bit
- i suggested to go to somewhere quiet, told me she was there with boyfriend, tried to verify if this was true, probably yes
- exchanged numbers and discussed she contacts me if things change

I personally don't go too physical at the beginning. This whole kino-escalation pick up technique didn't strike me as useful at all. Done wrong and it can seem overly creepy, done right and it still seems odd but is acceptable because it was done smoothly.

You should be moving her, she shouldn't be moving her. As we know, most women suck with logistics, and her thinking "oh, I'll introduce him to my friends!" isn't the fastest route to the bedroom. Try and move her before she suggests that you meet her friends, that way you won't have to object to it. Also establishes you as the leader. Explains why after you wanted to lead her somewhere she wasn't accustomed to following you; so it felt kind of odd, plus she very well might have had a boyfriend.

tomorrow i date another girl but wont really have time to do anything as i need to leave to the airport. all in all thanks to gc.com im slowly getting there though i still find this whole stuff very difficult.

You'll get there. Eventually.

 

[stratvm]

When you ordered in Hungarian did you initiate any acknowledgement of her before you ordered in Hungarian? If you initiated some eye contact or speech with her and then proceeded to attempt to "show off" your language skills by showing you are diverse, which looks a little try hard. But if you did this before acknowledging her it would be great for pre-selection, but the key is to make she doesn't know you are trying to impress her.

Something that sticks out to me is that you never introduced your name; that's one of the first things you should do, or at least give her something to remember you by. Without names you are definitely still strangers, and you should seek to learn names.

i ordered before acknowledging her, in fact this is why she got closer and i felt she wanted to be approached. i introduced myself right after asking her if we knew each other offering the hand. just realized that i made another mistake by creating conflict with her in a topic that paired with some bragging led to her getting out of the spell.

Tip for aftermath: you need to offer value in order to get value back. I haven't been friends with many women that I haven't hooked up with, and have only been close friends with those that I have hooked up with. It may sound weird, but sleeping and then becoming close friends is a good option because she will already have a great deal of respect for you if you left her with no regrets. It also happens a lot when they realize you aren't going to commit to a relationship.

cheers bruv, so far no reply so probably story closed, will send a follow up message later and thats it.

Explains why after you wanted to lead her somewhere she wasn't accustomed to following you; so it felt kind of odd, plus she very well might have had a boyfriend.

yepp, its obvious for now that if she begins to lead you than something is wrong, this was the 2nd occasion within 2 weeks .

*** think i begin to experiment with different paces of physical escalation

 

[A Life Loquacious]

I personally don't go too physical at the beginning. This whole kino-escalation pick up technique didn't strike me as useful at all. Done wrong and it can seem overly creepy, done right and it still seems odd but is acceptable because it was done smoothly.

Yeah, I like to get in fairly quickly with shoulder/arm/elbow touch within the first few minutes - just a simple tap on the upper arm whilst making a conversational point or getting to the most important part of the conversation topic because once you've touched them once, it feels far more natural touching them again later. I have seen the whole public Kino Escalation thing work well in 'meat market' venues but I think outside of those kind of bars/clubs it pays to be a bit more subtle. Also if others witness you getting knocked back after a fairly physical approach/pull attempt it will hurt your future chances.

 

[stratvm]

yepp, can recall a few days earlier a guy was hitting kamikaze way on a girl, touching all over, grabbing her & stuff, it was absolutely obvious he was going to fail. now that i watch people trying realize more and more how typical mistakes we tend to commit. even when i am aware of something that i shouldnt do and i just see myself doing it.