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Swati

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Went out to this famous club, I was pissed coming out from a club where a bunch of dudes running around, 3 shoved me I almost got into a fight and there was this dude that kept wanting to talk to me closely and fucking annoying. Light argument with my wing, coming out wasn't hyped.

Long story short, when we were crossing the street I see this big ass blonde I went to approach her then in my peripheral I got this see this very attractive girl I sensed a familiar attraction from her BUT my wing approached her and she was going on the bus and catching a flight.

wing: are you, X

girl: "No I'm X, I'm catching the flight" (while giving me a couple of glances)

wing: "My friend my friend is X"

As I turn around I see this pretty thing

Me: "Hi" (smiling)

Intuitive I need to approach, logically "She has a flight fuck it". But I felt the linger, I did not follow up right away, after a couple of seconds in my head

"WTF why I'm not approaching her"

I detached from my wing and told him I'd meet him at the bar later.

me: "Hey I wear glasses didn't see you coming before my (friend)"

In my language

"Before you leave I want to take you somewhere for fun/drink"

girl: "Oh this is so sudden blah blah blah" Token resistance

I felt like she wanted me to approach her instead of my friend because of the glances she gave me when we were interacting not much attention to my friend, after rejecting.

I imagined and predicted that it would hook because she was "my type" not "love at first sight" but you could feel it when it's there, a girl you are excited about interacting with, emotional transference. I wouldn't say is a mirror neuron until you both noticed each other, but it's close to the idea that the girl was a match to your genetic, facial symmetry type of match.

From my similar backgrounds, I've encountered higher attraction usually from rich backgrounds, educated, better looks, and with my type of social frame I would at least get attraction, most of the time auto-rejection if they are average. When I wasn't in the game. This is why if they aren't 8.5+ within my immediate social frame I wouldn't usually approach, them for the sake of looks awareness. My approach during their solo usually would hook, groups depend on the dynamic I usually can get a hint of success or not.

She was probably shocked at the factor that I reapproached her after my wing ejected. She agreed to hang out before a time constraint, and we continued to walk to somewhere "fun", I told her I had left close to here and I wanted to take her for a drink before leaving. One thing I didn't like was that she told me to hold her purse, but whatever. As always I have alcohol prepared. When we first arrived we smoked cigarettes outside my flat, while I continued to make fun of her for smoking vape, etc.

We go inside, I start to kiss her, I pick her up and I feel the LMR coming....this is going to be a long day.

"We are not fucking"

I just stopped escalation and ignored her got a can of beer and went to sit down and continued smoking her vape. She tries to get me to chase. I understand she needed more time, at one point she was like "Feed me" referring to the alcohol with my mouth, etc. 2nd time I escalate I was feeling her flat abs, super sexy, went down to her underwear, touching her hips then I move to the pussy she takes my hand away. During the process I took her to play music she likes

"It Not Intimate"

She wanted romantic songs and good for me to dance with her in, she was stiff, and it was for me to lose her.

At first point when we were making out I asked her body count. I was making jokes about how girls lie about it etc. Then we agreed to say it at the same time, while being shocked with my body count she had 20!!! Give me a fucking break.

Again 10 minutes later, I tried to escalate by taking off her shoes she stopped me the first time.

"We don't have much time left"

After a couple of minutes, I pull her into me with the position where she can get up and leave. Subcomunicate she's feel to stop the session anytime she likes to. But this was the final LMR, I got through it with a boner. while I started fingering her tight pussy, I pulled down my pants and showed her my dick she said

"no way" LOL

then I continued fingering her. I found a condom and put it on and started fucking her. Changed a couple of positions and finished after 10 minutes wasn't the best sex cause I was watching my watch the whole making sure she didn't miss her flight, etc

A couple of notes. When she was freezing me out don't give your body language leaning in like a thirsty hound, she's likely testing which you would crack or not, when she reengages you, pull her into you. Reposition her head and upper body to a more submissive position leaning into you. She wants to feel protected and small to a guy she submits her body.

sidenote* My wing is texting about needing to come to take a shit good thing I close the door. 10 minutes or so I hear the door and toilet flush, and he leaves.

Her pussy was tight but just too good and I stretched it out.

During the leave, I paid for the taxi going to the airport and I took care of all the logistic problems. During the taxi to the flight, she was holding onto my hand and I was being affectionate with her as well.

girl: "If I knew security pass was this fast should of kissed longer"
She also joked about finding a bathroom to fuck in... :)

A couple of hours after she arrived in her country. we exchanged messages she invited me to visit her for 10 days. I'll see what about maybe I dip early? She hinted at wanting me to stay longer etc.

I'm going to visit her, destroy her pussy, get myself emotionally wrecked, and recover because I'm a fucking retard. MAYBE when I'm done with that shit I'll reach an epiphany and miss her dearly and think that she was the "ONE" LMAO
 
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Great work getting the lay despite the airport time constraint.

This is masterful quick acting / logistics handling at its best.

A couple of notes. When she was freezing me out don't give your body language leaning in like a thirsty hound, she's likely testing which you would crack or not, when she reengages you, pull her into you. Reposition her head and upper body to a more submissive position leaning into you. She wants to feel protected and small to a guy she submits her body.

Nice notes.

girl: "If I knew security pass was this fast should of kissed longer"
She also joked about finding a bathroom to fuck in... :)

A couple of hours after she arrived in her country. we exchanged messages she invited me to visit her for 10 days. I'll see what about maybe I dip early? She hinted at wanting me to stay longer etc.

I'm going to visit her, destroy her pussy, get myself emotionally wrecked, and recover because I'm a fucking retard. MAYBE when I'm done with that shit I'll reach an epiphany and miss her dearly and think that she was the "ONE" LMAO

Haha.

You're doing awesome, @Swati.
 

Swati

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A bit of a weird situation, visiting the girl that I closed back 1 month ago.... we'd chat every other day or so, send each other messages, videos, voice, etc

It lasted 2 and a half days which was supposed to be around 8 days, thank god I'm able financially to get away got some air ticket refund, or else believing in her words would have fucked up my whole plans to other places.

She's pretty I'd say 8-8.8 ish for our social frame, I wanted to visit her, and she came to the airport to pick me up, and looked pretty. But the day before I came, she ignored my video chat, sent some aggressive texts and I debated about coming to visit, and had a bit of light tension on the phone. Nothing too serious, but she said she ignored my call cause I didn't answer her the day prior, vengeful bitch... I didn't purposely ignore her, just missed it, and called back later the next day, cause I worked out, ate, and recovered from being drunk.

I'd say one of the most pretty I've fucked from my social frame, when I was younger I'd fumble with these. I'd actively avoided the same social frame, because of the bad experiences and ruthlessness these hoes acted in some ways.

On the first day when I arrived, I saw her we got some beer and alcohol and went back to the room. It was the little secret she kept inside her room in a shared house. We ultimately fucked, "Oh how I missed that sexy body of hers", the whole thing lasted about 20mins, I wanted to go for the marathon 45min one that Chase posted about, but she was too good, then I just came. The condom fell off and the condom dripped out of her pussy, it was sexy. I didn't purposely do it.

The next day, I heard some complaints about how I was negative when I turned off her ranting podcast listening to others bullshitting on some podcast, and shit.... the most useless shit one could imagine listening to. I was judgmental, saying shit about other facial expressions, just being playful.

Anyway, I write it off as her just being randomly pissy won't happen again. BUT NO. "don't let the bad attitude stop!" the night when we got back, we drank beers, again.

(randomly realizing she's a cluster B)
CLUSTER B?! HAHAHAAHHA I JUST REALIZED SHE'S CLUSTER B
not 100% sure, but my suspicion is that is true, HMMMMMM how the emotions changed was not super obvious to me IRL, now recalling its cluster B. I didn't catch it in time over the phone, but the sex consistency was lacking a bit, she used it as a tool to get me chasing, playing cat and mouse with it.

WHY the fuck I always end up in these situations..... with cluster Bs

NEXT DAY
she got all pissy in the afternoon I woke up at 3 pm she was like

"you going to mess up my daily schedule"

I offered to help her with her resume, making her LinkedIn, and how to reach out to people, she needed to find a job, etc (she never did shit about it)

When we were watching a TV series, I got tired and fell asleep, in our language she called me

“picky and fussy bitch"

I got mad and confronted her

Me: "Don't fucking talk to me like that, if you want I'll leave"

her: "I didn't say that"

She tried to say sorry, all this bullshit. I brushed her off, played on my computer, and worked. Maybe this was the ultimate test that BROKE the margin of being nice to each other. The next morning, our relationship wasn't the same.

same social frame
I care about all my bitches until they start behaving badly with me she froze me out, with no emotions, I'm not that affected by it too much, just felt it was weird.

Saying I wake up in the afternoon, affecting her daily habits, saying I'm negative by being judgmental, sadistic humor of mine, saying I'm not considerate of her, picking up food downstairs, didn't respond fast enough to texts, etc

(I'm like WTF habit you have, you aint got a job, you type away with your ugly friend on messages half of the day, watch bullshit movies, listen to garbage podcasts, and read psychology books)

MAYBE she felt insecure about her position, social status, etc, AND said I was judgmental.

I'm an actionable person, I make things for myself, not be passive bystander. I'm independent and she has more of a collectivist mentality seems like. Can't stand people drinking bullshit media all the time.

Saying I was not considerate of her on small details. Most annoying was she always talking about movies, music, other people's accomplishments.... I'm like why the fuck don't we talk about something YOU AND I have accomplished. Not some random jack movie bullshit or video games n garbage, at least she's straightforward about not being a fit and etc. I offered to help with her resumes, and jobs, and make money. The pretty girl couldn't care less. She dated an low famous artist, and knows famous people from her country. Anyway, she wasn't looking for BF just something compatible, emotionally and sexually. That is why discarding me was easier compared to other girls it'll be more harder n etc

I felt she was playing some tech on me, got me annoyed, or just wanted guys to crack under her frame start chasing, and get satisfaction out of breaking a guy's emotion. MAYBE I'm overthinking it, she caught onto the small details and got annoyed.

Chase mentioned beautifully that is higher maintenance, I agree! BUT is this situation ONLY the high maintenance or is something WEIRD going on here? A girl would continuously chip away at your frame.

Maybe to some extent, I lost a bit of frame-chasing physically, being extra nice to her when I was parting maybe I should of just matched her icy energy but I don't want to fuck up my mood. I remained mostly non-needy, even tho I asked for sex before leaving, saying it'll be our last time, and got denied. I left even earlier than my flight, doing a red eye at the airport as I'm typing this shit.

I actually felt a bit of sadness about the depart, her manipulation pretty top tier. The cum coming from her pussy turned me on so much, she finally sucked my dick too. I only cum one time with her, didn't the 2nd days, she tired so hard to pull my cum from me, didn't happen.

red flags:
drinks a lot, tattoos, a small Baphomet statue, tongue piercing, 25 body count, family of Islamic background. CLUSTER B

see the contradiction of the Baphomet statue and Islamic family background, then hooking up with me, etc.

community elders or guys who want to chime in I'll be happy to hear what went wrong.
 
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oh the trip to visit girls, death sentence(specially if you will stay with them)..... you take a one night fling and turn it right away into a 5 year relationship, watch this 5 minute cut of seinfeld actually totally legit, to get the point....:


 

Swati

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oh the trip to visit girls, death sentence(specially if you will stay with them)..... you take a one night fling and turn it right away into a 5 year relationship, watch this 5 minute cut of seinfeld actually totally legit, to get the point....:


I can't seem to understand the why entirely? All LDR requires some degree of traveling to visit each other. That's a vague explains can you give deeper explanation AND PLUS you are ignoring the fact that this girl is cluster B? I'm not entirely in denial but there's other aspect to it. ALSO my girls needs to visit and etc, how otherwise would you maintain the relationship, only dating locally?
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

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@Swati,

Lol, that list of red flags at the end… there’s a Baphomet statue? Hahaha… If she gets pregnant from the condom coming off, be careful. She might sacrifice the child.

Yeah man, she sounds like a chick who basically has nothing but her looks going on.

There are plenty of chicks like that out there. They’re just average drifting-through-life humans with a pretty face / hot body. If they didn’t have that they’d be no different from some fat chick working at Wal-Mart or some random ugly roughneck over at Jeb’s Auto Body Repair. Same exact personality, values, interests, etc.

There are also plenty of chicks who are hot AND have their shit together, good things going on, aren’t lazy layabouts, etc. These chicks are higher maintenance but it’s understandable… they are actually quality people. In general men have more energy / get more shit done than women, but there are still plenty of women who are a lot more driven than this chick.

You can find the high quality hot ones. I’m sure there are even some in your city, so you don’t have to fly to find them :D (unless it is literally one of those cities where they are in short supply… there definitely are some of those).

That said, waking up at 3 PM will piss a lot of people off. I go through stretches like that and girls tell me I’m a vampire. It’s worst when you are staying with them… I had one girl explain it makes her feel depressed to be up in the afternoon but have to tiptoe around because I am still asleep in the bedroom.

Solution: stop going to bed at 7 AM, lol.

You also seem like you have a generally prickly personality. I’m not as prickly as you are… I don’t think… but I still realized at some point that I generated a lot of unnecessary conflicts with women because I’d get annoyed at minor behavior of theirs, them not doing things I thought they should do, etc., and would make annoyed comments or be kind of petty about it to them. They’d get offended and start attacking me back and I’d be like, “Yeesh, these chicks are so unreasonable!” Took a while for me to fully realize I was causing a lot of it. I changed it so that if there is stuff a girl does that is bugging me, I look for a good time to bring it up and just bring it up in a constructive manner rather than getting annoyed and taking these subtle jabs at her.

Funny enough, once you are not taking random jabs at women who are annoying you due to their imperfection, things get a lot less dramatic :D

Chase
 

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I can't seem to understand the why entirely? All LDR requires some degree of traveling to visit each other. That's a vague explains can you give deeper explanation AND PLUS you are ignoring the fact that this girl is cluster B? I'm not entirely in denial but there's other aspect to it. ALSO my girls needs to visit and etc, how otherwise would you maintain the relationship, only dating locally?
I’ll chime in in this. I’m somewhat of a veteran when it comes to LDR MLTR’s and FB’s i’ve had a few in my time the longest which is going on 3 years…

Nothing wrong with visiting a chick abroad, but if you do it after having a short fling and commit to a whole 8 days at your first staying with her, expect it to be a wildcard and liable to cause trouble.

A fling isn’t worth a long stay with. Maybe pass through the country spend a day with her, and if all goes well just incidentally spend a few more days with her. She gets a day for everyday she’s well behaved basically.

Longer stays only happen if you’ve vetted the chick over several months, & you can’t see her any other way, AND she’s sufficiently invested and begging for it. You should also show some reluctance at doing it given that you will be losing your personal space and freedom for a week and potentially dealing with her drama. Give her fewer days than she wants.

She should also plan some activities greater than just laying about the house.

Do that and you’ll eliminate the bad apples and have chicks that act very well behaved when you visit and will likely hop on a plane and visit you eagerly when they have the opportunity.

Best
 

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I’ll chime in in this. I’m somewhat of a veteran when it comes to LDR MLTR’s and FB’s i’ve had a few in my time the longest which is going on 3 years…

Nothing wrong with visiting a chick abroad, but if you do it after having a short fling and commit to a whole 8 days at your first staying with her, expect it to be a wildcard and liable to cause trouble.

A fling isn’t worth a long stay with. Maybe pass through the country spend a day with her, and if all goes well just incidentally spend a few more days with her. She gets a day for everyday she’s well behaved basically.

Longer stays only happen if you’ve vetted the chick over several months, & you can’t see her any other way, AND she’s sufficiently invested and begging for it. You should also show some reluctance at doing it given that you will be losing your personal space and freedom for a week and potentially dealing with her drama. Give her fewer days than she wants.

She should also plan some activities greater than just laying about the house.

Do that and you’ll eliminate the bad apples and have chicks that act very well behaved when you visit and will likely hop on a plane and visit you eagerly when they have the opportunity.

Best
@Swati this was my point, I had same experience when traveling and staying over when they were only ons, you start getting on each other's nerves... better to stay somewhere else while visiting...
 

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stop going to bed at 7 AM, lol.

You also seem like you have a generally prickly personality. I’m not as prickly as you are… I don’t think… but I still realized at some point that I generated a lot of unnecessary conflicts with women because I’d get annoyed at minor behavior of theirs, them not doing things I thought they should do, etc., and would make annoyed comments or be kind of petty about it to them. They’d get offended and start attacking me back and I’d be like, “Yeesh, these chicks are so unreasonable!” Took a while for me to fully realize I was causing a lot of it. I changed it so that if there is stuff a girl does that is bugging me, I look for a good time to bring it up and just bring it up in a constructive manner rather than getting annoyed and taking these subtle jabs at her.

Funny enough, once you are not taking random jabs at women who are annoying you due to their imperfection, things get a lot less dramatic :D

Chase


I can confirm that sometimes drama can be caused by us and our questioning but well welcomed control-freak nature. Me, for example, I like to test other people's boundaries to the point where I stress them enough to get some bad words out of their mouth then I have to discipline them in order to not react to something that I did.

Also, a personal note: don't fuck around so much with tired/full with 3rd party stress factors. They have a bit of short fuse and then you're creating tension out of nothing just for your own pleasure(which I enjoy tbh). I remember when my ex switched her job and had to spend like 2-3h on the way + her full time job, sleepless nights, I always had more drama. Unless it was weekend, her attitude was day n night difference to me.
 

Swati

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Lol, that list of red flags at the end… there’s a Baphomet statue? Hahaha… If she gets pregnant from the condom coming off, be careful. She might sacrifice the child.
Sadly she have sacrificed our child with the morning after pill, which "I" paid for :p
Yeah man, she sounds like a chick who basically has nothing but her looks going on.
yeah I'm shallow asf, I still miss a little bit even is just her looks and a bit of her bubbly personality we started giving each other attitudes. but with due time I'll find another one better than her

You can find the high quality hot ones. I’m sure there are even some in your city, so you don’t have to fly to find them :D (unless it is literally one of those cities where they are in short supply… there definitely are some of those).
well she's not a common commodity for sure which resulted my ass spending money and time to see her then getting asked to leave LOL

That said, waking up at 3 PM will piss a lot of people off. I go through stretches like that and girls tell me I’m a vampire. It’s worst when you are staying with them… I had one girl explain it makes her feel depressed to be up in the afternoon but have to tiptoe around because I am still asleep in the bedroom.

Solution: stop going to bed at 7 AM, lol.
Is a bit annoying cause she assumes everyone is like her, no job, no work, no obligations just scroll through the phone mindlessly, scroll some messenger don't stress about money and etc

You also seem like you have a generally prickly personality. I’m not as prickly as you are… I don’t think… but I still realized at some point that I generated a lot of unnecessary conflicts with women because I’d get annoyed at minor behavior of theirs, them not doing things I thought they should do, etc., and would make annoyed comments or be kind of petty about it to them. They’d get offended and start attacking me back and I’d be like, “Yeesh, these chicks are so unreasonable!” Took a while for me to fully realize I was causing a lot of it. I changed it so that if there is stuff a girl does that is bugging me, I look for a good time to bring it up and just bring it up in a constructive manner rather than getting annoyed and taking these subtle jabs at her.

Funny enough, once you are not taking random jabs at women who are annoying you due to their imperfection, things get a lot less dramatic :D
HAHAHA, I don't think you are wrong at all. but I'm a prick when I feel they aren't motivated, not trying to put effort into fixing their problem just bitching about it, blah blah blah... I've come to understand as a man I need to control my temper, I usually don't let them get away with any disrespect to me. I'll not forcefully impose my frame. Think a bit longer before reacting to an abnormal situation.

I could have done better with this particular girl, tbh I don't think it would of lasted that much longer anyways, her habits, life chooses were just horrible, asking to go to the bar, always wanna to play and etc.... lesson learned need to be more aware next time around.

Thanks for the feedback Chase!
 

Swati

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I’ll chime in in this. I’m somewhat of a veteran when it comes to LDR MLTR’s and FB’s i’ve had a few in my time the longest which is going on 3 years…

Nothing wrong with visiting a chick abroad, but if you do it after having a short fling and commit to a whole 8 days at your first staying with her, expect it to be a wildcard and liable to cause trouble.

A fling isn’t worth a long stay with. Maybe pass through the country spend a day with her, and if all goes well just incidentally spend a few more days with her. She gets a day for everyday she’s well behaved basically.

Longer stays only happen if you’ve vetted the chick over several months, & you can’t see her any other way, AND she’s sufficiently invested and begging for it. You should also show some reluctance at doing it given that you will be losing your personal space and freedom for a week and potentially dealing with her drama. Give her fewer days than she wants.

She should also plan some activities greater than just laying about the house.

Do that and you’ll eliminate the bad apples and have chicks that act very well behaved when you visit and will likely hop on a plane and visit you eagerly when they have the opportunity.

Best
Noted my man! these tips sounds like great strategical moves to make getting that girl to lasting longer in the relationship not tipping the attraction scale out of wack without personal space

Care to write a LDR MLTR?! one of the more difficult and less talked about topics

Best,
Swati
 

Swati

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@Swati this was my point, I had same experience when traveling and staying over when they were only ons, you start getting on each other's nerves... better to stay somewhere else while visiting...
bitch kicked off the little drama during at first 12-hour mark, I started it. I'll be nicer to the girl that is coming to see me or I'm visiting from now on
 
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