I sensed I wanted to match her idea of successful guys, and therefore talked quite a bit about my company and my thoughts about starting my second company in the next years time - something I normally never do, and that might have placed me in a provider role. It basically backfired. I felt like she got pretty stuck up after that point and I started getting resistance. I couldn't move her, and had problems amplifying the sexual tension afterwards.
I sensed I wanted to match her idea of successful guys, and therefore talked quite a bit about my company and my thoughts about starting my second company in the next years time - something I normally never do, and that might have placed me in a provider role. It basically backfired. I felt like she got pretty stuck up after that point and I started getting resistance. I couldn't move her, and had problems amplifying the sexual tension afterwards.
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That is what happened but your conclusion of she placing you in the provider role is incorrect, is just that this is the same as saying I have a mercedes or a Rolex. You indirectly by doing so were trying to impress it happened to me in the early stages of me doubling my income till I calibrate correctly
Progress the last month.
What I have been up to
What I have been up to
- Introduction week – introducing new students to university. 2 lays. These have probably been the easiest lays I’ve ever had, and have learned me how powerful authority and status really is. I had a good idea previously but this was a whole different level.
- Fucked two of the instructors that also introduce other new students at two different parties.
- Lay from invite only private party at a club yesterday. Club life never ends if you got the contacts. Not even a pandemic will stop that.
- Sexy tonality, and usage. From variations in pace, energy and enthusiasm to adding rrrrh.
- Emotional stimulation – big one for me right now. Working on my company is in front of a screen, and after working long days this is an area I tend to have a hard time activating when going straight out. More focus on descriptions over logic with usage of listing, “more and more” and linking positive emotions to me.
- Conversational management -> Moving the conversation towards topics close to sexual topics. Moving into them, and leaving them with a open loop or similar for added intrigue, and fractionation.
- Working on a fitness girl that’s very far away from girls I normally go for personality wise – very serious career girl that never drinks. Taking that as a test in working girls with different blueprints and value systems. Nevertheless, very very hot girl.
- Rusty daygamer myself but giving it a go as I did when I started out. Min. 20 sets a week.
- Building a new pipeline of women. Tired of old fuckbuddies, I want something new. I’m considering ditching them forcing me to push myself to build something new. Cold turkey style.
- In under one month I’m launching my second company with a b2b product with friends.
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I recommend taking L-tryptophan (500 mg) instead or melatonin. Tryptophan is the precursor and mades your body CREATE NATURALLY the NECESSARY amount of melatonin. It also ups your endorphin level. The results? much better sleep than with melatonin... and feeling more refreshed the next day. You can feel a bit "off" the next day after taking melatonin. Not with Tryptophan.
tryptophan is also one of the best hangover remedies after drinking alcohol or taking drugs
Best,
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I recommend taking L-tryptophan (500 mg) instead or melatonin. Tryptophan is the precursor and mades your body CREATE NATURALLY the NECESSARY amount of melatonin. It also ups your endorphin level. The results? much better sleep than with melatonin... and feeling more refreshed the next day. You can feel a bit "off" the next day after taking melatonin. Not with Tryptophan.
tryptophan is also one of the best hangover remedies after drinking alcohol or taking drugs
Best,
yeah melatonin (still taking it)... Has kind of stop working for me, i had to combine with benadril..... Going to try this...
@whoami I can’t remember if it’s 4 or 5 years I’ve gamed. I started out with very bad fundamentals, and no focus on social skills. I actually got diagonsed with mild anxiety. My life was my sport and nothing else. I woke up, trained, went to school, went to training and went home late at night. Every single day. I was a virgin and had this very bad crush on a girl in a relationship where I got very strong indicators of interest but didn’t have the balls to escalate. I ended up escalating with good results, and this was the start. I’m a guy who can push myself very hard, and once I decide what I want I go for it. Firstly, I started slowly working and creating a strong social circle. Later on I started going out every single week min. 3 days a week and min. 20 sets per week for around 2-2,5 years. I went out very very hard.
I started out with RSD Max related content and hardly got many results. Later I switched towards Julien’s material and started getting more consistent results. I started to work more technical game and stumbled on Todd’s content. From here my results exploded. I ended up with around 50 lays in about 2-2,5 years with girls of a VERY mixed quality. By going out consistently for so long in my pretty small hometown in the same places both gave me a HUGE social circle and crazy momentum. I believe social proof was a very big part of my success at this time, and something I tried to use as much as possible.
I later have moved on to a way larger city where I study at university and have been here the last few years. I’m spending a lot of time in the entrepreneurial space, and have created a very solid social circle through this, which have given me access to really really hot girls. My quality of the girls I pull now is more consistent and I pull girls I never thought I would have the chance of even becoming friends with 5 years ago. Although, I still have a lot to learn and I’m still very new to influence based game. I have a lot to learn before I can get to the next level with even hotter girls. Right now, I’m working to switch towards more directly influence based game, what you see teevster, bacchus, lofty, gunwitch and glow use.
Switching my game around towards a more directly influence based style of game aka. Gunwitch has slowed my results down a bit. However, in the long run I bet it will benefit me more than my older style – hopefully I can create even stronger hooks, emotionally stimulate, arouse and start hooking up with hotter girls more consistent. I feel slightly confused in this field but hopefully a lot of approaches and trial/error will get me there.
Once I finish my bachelor degree at uni here I dream of conquering Copenhagen. But lets see what's going to happen.
@Teevster After recommendations from you and others in the thread, I have ordered it and will test it out. Thanks.
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My motivation and time to write FRs have been minimal. I know this is one of the best ways to progress my game, and it's something I have to spend more time doing than I do today. Balancing uni, two companies and wanting to improve in game is a hard balancing, but I think I have to prioritize game more atm. LR from last week will drop this week...
I started out with RSD Max related content and hardly got many results. Later I switched towards Julien’s material and started getting more consistent results. I started to work more technical game and stumbled on Todd’s content. From here my results exploded. I ended up with around 50 lays in about 2-2,5 years with girls of a VERY mixed quality. By going out consistently for so long in my pretty small hometown in the same places both gave me a HUGE social circle and crazy momentum. I believe social proof was a very big part of my success at this time, and something I tried to use as much as possible.
I later have moved on to a way larger city where I study at university and have been here the last few years. I’m spending a lot of time in the entrepreneurial space, and have created a very solid social circle through this, which have given me access to really really hot girls. My quality of the girls I pull now is more consistent and I pull girls I never thought I would have the chance of even becoming friends with 5 years ago. Although, I still have a lot to learn and I’m still very new to influence based game. I have a lot to learn before I can get to the next level with even hotter girls. Right now, I’m working to switch towards more directly influence based game, what you see teevster, bacchus, lofty, gunwitch and glow use.
Switching my game around towards a more directly influence based style of game aka. Gunwitch has slowed my results down a bit. However, in the long run I bet it will benefit me more than my older style – hopefully I can create even stronger hooks, emotionally stimulate, arouse and start hooking up with hotter girls more consistent. I feel slightly confused in this field but hopefully a lot of approaches and trial/error will get me there.
Once I finish my bachelor degree at uni here I dream of conquering Copenhagen. But lets see what's going to happen.
@Teevster After recommendations from you and others in the thread, I have ordered it and will test it out. Thanks.
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My motivation and time to write FRs have been minimal. I know this is one of the best ways to progress my game, and it's something I have to spend more time doing than I do today. Balancing uni, two companies and wanting to improve in game is a hard balancing, but I think I have to prioritize game more atm. LR from last week will drop this week...
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It's been almost a year since writing in my log. I must confess that my focus changed a little, and my motivation declined. I had longer periods on the forums with less time used, mostly because I feel there's too much focus on specific girls and not so much on tech, which in my head is a lot of waste of time. (I think I have said this previously also on the chat). I recently started writing FRs and LRs again in my own language, but have kept them private for now. It takes too long for me to write them in english.
Here's the bullet points of what I have been working on the last 2 weeks:
I have been exploring dance floor game a bit more lately, and together with the reopening of dance floors where I live, I feel like it's very very powerful. Probably even more than what it used to be. I have a feeling that the compliance you get from girls from the get go is a lot higher than usually pre covid. This effect will probably slowly disappear again when everything go back to normal.
Dance floor circles. I have used them in great effect as a mean of generating attention. Often it's possible to escalate the vibe rather quickly in these circles by inviting your target into the circle with you, and creating sexual tension on the dance floor. Then later isolating her at the edge of the dance circle, and then moving her further away from her friends, where the verbals can work better. For further effect (if you are more people together in dark clubs) the usage of flash lights to create a more attention grabbing circle helps A LOT. You can suck the whole center of the dance floor towards you. We recently did this on my trip to Poland. Very few spoke english, we didn't understand the music, but we still became the center of the dance floor and I left with 3 makeouts and 4 numbers before we had to leave towards another club more central, where we met up with some of the girls I number closed.
I am not the best dancer myself, I can create energy on the dance floor and my usual strategy is just to isolate as quickly as possible. I still have work to do when it comes to escalating the vibe too fast on the dancefloor but I'm trying to find the sweet spot atm, so I have to push some sets to the absolute limit.
I'm working on evolving my hooking skillset as well with a bigger focus on building even more intrigue. I want to make it more natural to use even more open loops than what I already do. Reality pacing works great for me atm, but I'm sure I can make it even more powerful (as I have seen on my more recent sets and pulls). The better the understanding I can show of her and her world, while containing it a little, is for me what works the strongest. My transitioning from hooking to mid game has improved quite a lot after following Riker's structure, which I can recommend a lot to other people.
Here's the bullet points of what I have been working on the last 2 weeks:
I have been exploring dance floor game a bit more lately, and together with the reopening of dance floors where I live, I feel like it's very very powerful. Probably even more than what it used to be. I have a feeling that the compliance you get from girls from the get go is a lot higher than usually pre covid. This effect will probably slowly disappear again when everything go back to normal.
Dance floor circles. I have used them in great effect as a mean of generating attention. Often it's possible to escalate the vibe rather quickly in these circles by inviting your target into the circle with you, and creating sexual tension on the dance floor. Then later isolating her at the edge of the dance circle, and then moving her further away from her friends, where the verbals can work better. For further effect (if you are more people together in dark clubs) the usage of flash lights to create a more attention grabbing circle helps A LOT. You can suck the whole center of the dance floor towards you. We recently did this on my trip to Poland. Very few spoke english, we didn't understand the music, but we still became the center of the dance floor and I left with 3 makeouts and 4 numbers before we had to leave towards another club more central, where we met up with some of the girls I number closed.
I am not the best dancer myself, I can create energy on the dance floor and my usual strategy is just to isolate as quickly as possible. I still have work to do when it comes to escalating the vibe too fast on the dancefloor but I'm trying to find the sweet spot atm, so I have to push some sets to the absolute limit.
I'm working on evolving my hooking skillset as well with a bigger focus on building even more intrigue. I want to make it more natural to use even more open loops than what I already do. Reality pacing works great for me atm, but I'm sure I can make it even more powerful (as I have seen on my more recent sets and pulls). The better the understanding I can show of her and her world, while containing it a little, is for me what works the strongest. My transitioning from hooking to mid game has improved quite a lot after following Riker's structure, which I can recommend a lot to other people.
I've been diving deep into identity-based influence techniques - not just studying them, but applying them.
There's something powerful about shaping how someone sees themselves… and watching their behavior shift to match.
Starting now, I’m going to begin sharing some of my personal experiences - moments where these techniques didn’t just work… they transformed the dynamic entirely.
How subtle words, the right frame, and a well-placed mirror can pull someone into a version of themselves they didn’t know they were craving.
Let’s get into it.
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She sat across from me with her legs crossed, eyes scanning for signs.
She didn’t know what to make of me yet.
But I wasn’t trying to impress her. I was watching. Reading.
Listening between the words.
She talked like someone who’s used to control - structure, approval, safety.
But the way she touched her necklace, bit her lip when she thought I wasn’t looking…
That told a different story.
So I leaned in.
“You talk like someone who plays it safe. But I don’t think that’s really you.”
She raised an eyebrow. Slight smirk. The challenge was in the air.
“You’ve got this energy… like you’re just waiting for someone to pull the real you out.”
Silence.
But her posture shifted. Her breath changed. I’d hit something.
This is the mirror.
I didn’t tell her who she was - I described the version of her she wants to be.
And now she had a choice: reject it… or rise into it.
Then I labeled her:
You’re the kind of woman who breaks rules - not to get attention, but because you’re done living small.
She nodded slowly. Didn’t even realize she was doing it.
I asked her:
“What’s the part of you that people don’t usually get to see?”
That’s identity activation. Get her talking about her hidden self, and she’ll begin to re-identify with it.
She told me a story. One with fire in it. One she hadn’t told in years.
And I said:
“That’s the real you. She’s fucking powerful.”
Now I wasn’t just some guy. I was the one who saw her.
Who reflected back the version of her that made her feel dangerous and desired.
Not the polished one. Not the nice girl.
The real one.
By the end of the night, she wasn’t holding back in her words. Or her body.
She was playing, teasing, testing the limits of who she’s allowed to be.
And I just kept showing her:
“This is your space to be wild. You don’t need permission here.”
There's something powerful about shaping how someone sees themselves… and watching their behavior shift to match.
Starting now, I’m going to begin sharing some of my personal experiences - moments where these techniques didn’t just work… they transformed the dynamic entirely.
How subtle words, the right frame, and a well-placed mirror can pull someone into a version of themselves they didn’t know they were craving.
Let’s get into it.
-
She sat across from me with her legs crossed, eyes scanning for signs.
She didn’t know what to make of me yet.
But I wasn’t trying to impress her. I was watching. Reading.
Listening between the words.
She talked like someone who’s used to control - structure, approval, safety.
But the way she touched her necklace, bit her lip when she thought I wasn’t looking…
That told a different story.
So I leaned in.
“You talk like someone who plays it safe. But I don’t think that’s really you.”
She raised an eyebrow. Slight smirk. The challenge was in the air.
“You’ve got this energy… like you’re just waiting for someone to pull the real you out.”
Silence.
But her posture shifted. Her breath changed. I’d hit something.
This is the mirror.
I didn’t tell her who she was - I described the version of her she wants to be.
And now she had a choice: reject it… or rise into it.
Then I labeled her:
You’re the kind of woman who breaks rules - not to get attention, but because you’re done living small.
She nodded slowly. Didn’t even realize she was doing it.
I asked her:
“What’s the part of you that people don’t usually get to see?”
That’s identity activation. Get her talking about her hidden self, and she’ll begin to re-identify with it.
She told me a story. One with fire in it. One she hadn’t told in years.
And I said:
“That’s the real you. She’s fucking powerful.”
Now I wasn’t just some guy. I was the one who saw her.
Who reflected back the version of her that made her feel dangerous and desired.
Not the polished one. Not the nice girl.
The real one.
By the end of the night, she wasn’t holding back in her words. Or her body.
She was playing, teasing, testing the limits of who she’s allowed to be.
And I just kept showing her:
“This is your space to be wild. You don’t need permission here.”