Hey, it's good to be back.
I've arrived into Moscow about a couple of months ago. So here I'm going to sum up a bit of my experience so far.
We are all a busy folk and it's frankly quite late in here now, so this post will be short and sweet.
As a foreigner you are going to run into a lot of attainability issues. Even with a half-decent fundamentals you are going to come across very high value just by speaking English. And the more the girl is distant from that world (talking to foreigners), the more she is likely to dismiss you straight away.
So try running some indirect direct (hey, how to get there..oh thanks..actually you are super pretty, what's your name?) and some charm/nice guy-ish cuteness especially if it's an evening street Monday-Thursday. You can always escalate tension after a few minutes into the conversation. Safety concerns are very relevant for people here, so pre-opening is very good.
How to run a proper direct street game in Russian I haven't figured out yet, it seems that rules are a bit different for the locals. These include using a different form of language that implies familiarity "ты" vs "вы" which is a frame and a form of escalation. English is bridging that distance.
Posh girls, travelling girls and business ladies will be a bit different but let's talk about it later. Bar environment is also different - you can run your normal game more or less, just adjust your language for understanding.
Vast majority of the people in here will be either massively pro-West or anti-West. Be prepared that once in a while someone will go on a rant about how great the Russia or Slavic people are or how fucked up all Eastern Europe is. You'll rarely find a balanced opinion. I usually try to avoid conversation going that direction like a fire, or to cut the thread asap. But they are usually are quite 'intense' about it. So mildly relate to the things said, show understanding and hint at positive things in their object of hate.
To get some early wins and make your life a lot easier is just a matter of putting yourself in the right place, right time. Couple of nights ago after a gig we were standing outside the club and were 20-25 min into a conversation and I had to literally run away from a threesome (yeah I know, but I had a legit reason..). And they were quite persistent in their efforts, figuring out logistics and sh!t. And no, they were not trying to rob me (they didn't know I spoke Russian and I've heard all they said). And I am nowhere near the level of Chase.
It just they had a great time at the gig, had a few drinks and were into Brits. The deck was massively stacked in my favour.
If you can put yourself in more situations like this, your life will be much easier.
Standing outside the club, bar, cafe and speaking English with a bunch of people really helps. Keep an eye on who's hovering around and open when you have a chance.
Be mildly cautious when a girl opens you AND goes for a pull.
I'm still figuring the whole thing so if you have suggestions/different experience/ pointers - shoot. I'll be glad to hear.
Cheers
P.S not so short after all..
I've arrived into Moscow about a couple of months ago. So here I'm going to sum up a bit of my experience so far.
We are all a busy folk and it's frankly quite late in here now, so this post will be short and sweet.
As a foreigner you are going to run into a lot of attainability issues. Even with a half-decent fundamentals you are going to come across very high value just by speaking English. And the more the girl is distant from that world (talking to foreigners), the more she is likely to dismiss you straight away.
So try running some indirect direct (hey, how to get there..oh thanks..actually you are super pretty, what's your name?) and some charm/nice guy-ish cuteness especially if it's an evening street Monday-Thursday. You can always escalate tension after a few minutes into the conversation. Safety concerns are very relevant for people here, so pre-opening is very good.
How to run a proper direct street game in Russian I haven't figured out yet, it seems that rules are a bit different for the locals. These include using a different form of language that implies familiarity "ты" vs "вы" which is a frame and a form of escalation. English is bridging that distance.
Posh girls, travelling girls and business ladies will be a bit different but let's talk about it later. Bar environment is also different - you can run your normal game more or less, just adjust your language for understanding.
Vast majority of the people in here will be either massively pro-West or anti-West. Be prepared that once in a while someone will go on a rant about how great the Russia or Slavic people are or how fucked up all Eastern Europe is. You'll rarely find a balanced opinion. I usually try to avoid conversation going that direction like a fire, or to cut the thread asap. But they are usually are quite 'intense' about it. So mildly relate to the things said, show understanding and hint at positive things in their object of hate.
To get some early wins and make your life a lot easier is just a matter of putting yourself in the right place, right time. Couple of nights ago after a gig we were standing outside the club and were 20-25 min into a conversation and I had to literally run away from a threesome (yeah I know, but I had a legit reason..). And they were quite persistent in their efforts, figuring out logistics and sh!t. And no, they were not trying to rob me (they didn't know I spoke Russian and I've heard all they said). And I am nowhere near the level of Chase.
It just they had a great time at the gig, had a few drinks and were into Brits. The deck was massively stacked in my favour.
If you can put yourself in more situations like this, your life will be much easier.
Standing outside the club, bar, cafe and speaking English with a bunch of people really helps. Keep an eye on who's hovering around and open when you have a chance.
Be mildly cautious when a girl opens you AND goes for a pull.
I'm still figuring the whole thing so if you have suggestions/different experience/ pointers - shoot. I'll be glad to hear.
Cheers
P.S not so short after all..
