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Dear Friends, Dear Womanizers, Dear Social Artists,
Unless you have been living in a cave, you have probably noticed the recent rise in popularity of Large Language Models (LLMs)—so-called “generative AI” (Gen-AI) such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot, and for the more daring, DeepSeek.
With the ongoing AI hype, we have observed a growing amount of AI-generated content appearing on the forums. More importantly, we also anticipate increased usage of such tools on the forums in the future. For these reasons, we feel the need to proactively address this matter by providing a clear statement on our stance, which we will soon follow up with updated guidelines specifically regarding the use of generative AI in forum posts. These guidelines will be designed to allow AI-assisted improvements, such as enhanced grammar, syntax, and overall sentence and paragraph flow, without replacing what we value most - high-quality, experienced based, original content.
Additionally, because AI operates on datasets, there is a potential risk of copyright infringement. While this is a complex issue and an ongoing debate that has not yet been fully clarified on a regulatory level, one thing remains clear: purely AI-generated content cannot truly be claimed as your own—at least not in the strictest sense. Although regulations are still evolving, we, as a forum, expect authors to act with integrity by assuming full responsibility for the content they post and ensuring that it accurately reflects their own ideas, opinions, observations, and real-life experiences. This obligation arises not only from a duty of self-respect but, more importantly, out of respect for the readers—fellow forum members who, due to a potential lack of knowledge or experience, may otherwise be misled. As such, we cannot accept the dumping of purely AI-generated content and have posters claim it as their own ideas, reflections and experiences.
Unlike in some other professions and sectors, our position is not driven purely by moral or political imperatives (e.g., “saving jobs”) but by practical considerations related to the nature of our activities and interests. Pickup and seduction is a skillset —it is an art—that require deep contextual understanding, which must always be grounded in real-world experiences and observations. (Generative-)AI, on the other hand, operates on (often) outdated, decontextualized and fallible datasets and often fails to accurately reconstruct the original theories and concepts in a meaningful way. Thus generative AI cannot replace the seducer's knowledge and experience - the "savoir-faire".
Yet, generative AI can and should still have a place. After all, what does a Large Language Model do best (aside from writing codes and calculate stuff)? generate linguistic content - "do language stuff". AI should therefore remain a tool to assist the author in conveying their ideas to the audience, not replace them as content creator. We would gladly authorize such use. More on this will be uncovered in the coming guidelines.
Hence, AI tools are welcome as a means to facilitate communication among real-world seducers, not to replace them.
Therefore, on behalf of the staff, we hope our position is clear and that, as a community, we can embrace new technologies while preserving what makes this forum unique—a space where real people share their real field experiences in interacting with other real people (women) in the real world - with other real people (fellow forum remembers)
Because it is essential to remember that everything in pickup is—and must be—grounded in real-world field experience. To date, algorithms possess no such experience. They operate solely based on the material they have been trained on, ultimately making them the ultimate keyboard jockeys - which holds no place in this forum.
Thank you for your understanding. We welcome and encourage you to share your opinions.
On behalf of the forum staff, @Chase @Bismarck @Will_V @POB @Train,
-Teevster
Unless you have been living in a cave, you have probably noticed the recent rise in popularity of Large Language Models (LLMs)—so-called “generative AI” (Gen-AI) such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot, and for the more daring, DeepSeek.
With the ongoing AI hype, we have observed a growing amount of AI-generated content appearing on the forums. More importantly, we also anticipate increased usage of such tools on the forums in the future. For these reasons, we feel the need to proactively address this matter by providing a clear statement on our stance, which we will soon follow up with updated guidelines specifically regarding the use of generative AI in forum posts. These guidelines will be designed to allow AI-assisted improvements, such as enhanced grammar, syntax, and overall sentence and paragraph flow, without replacing what we value most - high-quality, experienced based, original content.
Some Background
First and foremost, we acknowledge the existence of generative AI and are by no means opposed to its use. We see plenty of value in these tools (for instance, for dysselectic posters, or posters whose native language is not english); however, it is important to recognize that they are just that—tools—and not to get too carried away by the hype. AI-generated content is exactly what it says it is—content generated based on existing datasets from the web and other sources that the algorithm has been trained on. Unlike some mainstream beliefs, Gen-AI is not an all-knowing, intelligent (the word "intelligence" when referring to AI is misleading at best, as its definition is based on an outdated functionalist interpretation of the term—just FYI) entity with consciousness. It simply produces content based on what it has been fed ("input => output", or as people working in the domain would claim: garbage in, garbage out), without critical thinking, reflection, contextualization, or consciousness - basically lacking in anything that good old human oversight would provide. Because of this, AI-generated content can often come across as lackluster, overly wordy, superfluous, decontextualized, outdated and sometimes even outright incorrect.Additionally, because AI operates on datasets, there is a potential risk of copyright infringement. While this is a complex issue and an ongoing debate that has not yet been fully clarified on a regulatory level, one thing remains clear: purely AI-generated content cannot truly be claimed as your own—at least not in the strictest sense. Although regulations are still evolving, we, as a forum, expect authors to act with integrity by assuming full responsibility for the content they post and ensuring that it accurately reflects their own ideas, opinions, observations, and real-life experiences. This obligation arises not only from a duty of self-respect but, more importantly, out of respect for the readers—fellow forum members who, due to a potential lack of knowledge or experience, may otherwise be misled. As such, we cannot accept the dumping of purely AI-generated content and have posters claim it as their own ideas, reflections and experiences.
Our Position on Generative AI
The forum staff maintain that generative AI (e.g., ChatGPT) should, if used, serve only as a tool to enhance the formulation of an author's own ideas and experiences—helping the author in structuring, refining, and spell-checking. It is therefore not meant to replace the human aspect - it is not meant to replace the seducer.Unlike in some other professions and sectors, our position is not driven purely by moral or political imperatives (e.g., “saving jobs”) but by practical considerations related to the nature of our activities and interests. Pickup and seduction is a skillset —it is an art—that require deep contextual understanding, which must always be grounded in real-world experiences and observations. (Generative-)AI, on the other hand, operates on (often) outdated, decontextualized and fallible datasets and often fails to accurately reconstruct the original theories and concepts in a meaningful way. Thus generative AI cannot replace the seducer's knowledge and experience - the "savoir-faire".
Yet, generative AI can and should still have a place. After all, what does a Large Language Model do best (aside from writing codes and calculate stuff)? generate linguistic content - "do language stuff". AI should therefore remain a tool to assist the author in conveying their ideas to the audience, not replace them as content creator. We would gladly authorize such use. More on this will be uncovered in the coming guidelines.
Hence, AI tools are welcome as a means to facilitate communication among real-world seducers, not to replace them.
Why This Matters
Our primary goal is to facilitate the sharing of quality content. Remember why you are here in the first place—either to learn from and discuss ideas with people who genuinely understand the field or to teach and/or share your own real life experiences, observations and lessons with others who are genuinely curious to learn real-life social skills and knowledge. With this in mind, generative AI cannot replace human content creators. That said, it can still assist them in conveying ideas more effectively.Therefore, on behalf of the staff, we hope our position is clear and that, as a community, we can embrace new technologies while preserving what makes this forum unique—a space where real people share their real field experiences in interacting with other real people (women) in the real world - with other real people (fellow forum remembers)
Because it is essential to remember that everything in pickup is—and must be—grounded in real-world field experience. To date, algorithms possess no such experience. They operate solely based on the material they have been trained on, ultimately making them the ultimate keyboard jockeys - which holds no place in this forum.
Thank you for your understanding. We welcome and encourage you to share your opinions.
On behalf of the forum staff, @Chase @Bismarck @Will_V @POB @Train,
-Teevster
