Get GIRLS off their PHONE

[ljrozz69]

Hey guys!

So what is this about? Well, usually girls looking at their phone is not a very good thing.
Why? Its because :

• You lose her attention; if she is looking at the phone she is not looking at you and I sure should be the most interesting and exciting person she has ever seen.
• It slows down the seduction, even if she already managed to hook her. By caring about that shit she loses focus about the seduction.
• It may affect her mood; you don't know what shes looking at, maybe she just saw a video of two bonobos fucking and know she feels akwards.
• She has the possibility to talk to other ppl so it makes isolation work less. This can bring ASD or social-value clashes.
• It may trigger high self-awareness and thus you can end up facing resistance.
• It makes you look bad and boring, lowering your "visible social value"
• The three points above can unsleash a wave of backward rationalization and you may not see this girls ever again.

The only semi-good thing I can think about it, is that at least the must have a little bit of comfort before pulling it out of their pockets. It happens often, while you are seducing her and after hooking up, when shes smoking that cig on the window and whilling.

So how do you avoid this? By taking their phone off.
Now, I am writing this post because I want to know what are the best ways you do this. I am going to share mines so you can advise me.


Usually what I do is (they have to be hooked in and you must have enough compliance -if not I do not see the point of doing all this-) to very slowly take it off of their hands like you were stoling it, but in a sweet way and then put it away. If shes cool, great you can ask for compliance -move her for instance- if you want to continue the seduction. However, if she tells you to give her back in a playfull way, make her beg, then you can ask for compliance -if the vibe was hot enough you can ask her to do dirty things like a BJ-. This can also be a tool to escalate, shes in your sofa, you are watching the tv, you are very close, you already kissed and youre both confortable, you can take her phone off and then take her hand and put it on your dick.

Bad thing is that it can work but feel silly if you have enough compliance to pull it off but not enough so she feels completly OK with it.

Another way you can achive her not using her phone is entertaining her, however something I do not know how to achive thus the reason this post exists-. When you are in her place -so if she forgets it, it is not a big issue-, you can also avoid her using the phone by hiding it where she can't see it directly; putting it behind an object or under some paper.

What do you think about those? Do you have any idea of how to achive taking their phone off without too much trouble? Is there a way I can do this much more easier?

Thank you for reading, and for help,

Klimax

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

Klimax dude! Girls on their phone is definitely a hurdle an can ruin interactions, dates or anything. I also find it incredibly rude. It's acceptable in some context but typically speaking it breaks circle, breaks the moment and what's worse is if you accept it you enable this behaviour while not valuing your own time.

A have possibly taken your suggestion of entertain the girls to literally an don't like it on the grounds you're not a jester! To the other end, ya should be engaging enough that they're not being distracted which I guess means entertain them.

Ya say you struggle to entertain them which is why this post exists an you're suggestion of taking the phone only works if you have that level of compliance. Prevention is the best way to get this by setting the frame from the start.

Lead by example, an when they get their phone out look bored, look away, go aloof and go cold if ya have to. They'll quickly change their behaviour an they'll learn ya don't tolerate it. The first time you do this an they quickly put their phone away an apologise, they'll qualify themselves an comply to you. This will help later on if you need to take it. Or you can just look bored again. I'll stop touching them an it's like a signal that they know I don't tolerate it. (Build touch up as a reward an this pays dividends)

Another thing ya can do early on is call them out on it. I met a girl for a date an she had her phone switched on, on the table constantly looking at it. I called her out asking if she had to be somewhere an was prepared to leave there an then a couple minutes in. Her phone went into her bag immediately. Give it a go dude!

 

[ljrozz69]

Thank you for your reply Flux!
I appreciate it.

A have possibly taken your suggestion of entertain the girls to literally an don't like it on the grounds you're not a jester! To the other end, ya should be engaging enough that they're not being distracted which I guess means entertain them.

Yeah thats what I mean, engaging them enough that shes just too busy to check the phone. If you have any suggestion on how to do that Id be pleased to learn.

Lead by example, an when they get their phone out look bored, look away, go aloof and go cold if ya have to. They'll quickly change their behaviour an they'll learn ya don't tolerate it. The first time you do this an they quickly put their phone away an apologise, they'll qualify themselves an comply to you. This will help later on if you need to take it. Or you can just look bored again. I'll stop touching them an it's like a signal that they know I don't tolerate it. (Build touch up as a reward an this pays dividends)

Yeah thats pretty much what I do when I dislike someone's behavior but this only works only when shees quickly looking at phone then looking back at you, thus if shes replying to some message, you are at a loud/dark place or smth this doesnt work. =(

Another thing ya can do early on is call them out on it.

It should work very well during a date. I will try that out for sure!



Another thing I figured out you can do, if she is comfortable enough to you touching her, is to put your hand in her shoulder (or arm if you are comfortable enough) dont look at her, and wait until she looks at you then make a move to make the seduction go forward.

Klimax,
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Seems like this topic isnt well-liked, overlooked and thought as being to theorical bs or smth. I think it is fairly concrete and common in everyday seductions, so I don't get why thid doesnt get more attention.

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

@Klimax dude! Deep dive them, theres a few articles about it which is well worth reading along with being a conversationalist. A little bit of frame control an not breaking circle all come into play. A lot of this depends on context as to have ya met them before, is this the first time ya have met them or have ya met them briefly but this your first date. I have called girls out on using their phones within minutes of being on a date with them, I haven't had any negative responses they have always apologised an put their phone away. Because I have called them out on it they would have to be very rude to then go straight back to it!

Try an keep them talking, get them onto something that they want to talk about an use it. Ya can learn a lot about them an keep exploring the topics. Can be difficult if they are a closed person but then a bit of light teasing an flirting usually does the trick here.

Dude trust me this works even if they are fully engaged on their phone. If ya touching them, stop. If ya were looking at them, look away. Be bored an colder. Even if they aren't looking at ya they will feel your energy and see your body language. I was talking to a girl I had just met last night, we went away from her friends an sat down while I deep dived her. She went onto her phone and was fully engaged in it, I stopped trying to engage her and looked of bored an she instantly said sorry!! and put her phone away.
This was in a dark and loud place....
I didn't have to say anything. Look away and be bored/disinterested ya have time. When she comes back make her work for your attention. It might take a few tries but ya will train her that you don't find this acceptable. Be bold an confident with this, dont pussy about.

Am usually confident touching them first thing we've met. Unless I have purposely decided not to touch for a no touch escalation I will break that barrier quick so touching their arm if theyre on the phone is easy. Personally I find not touching them here more effective. Touch is a reward they should earn. Then again if they speak a different love language to ya and they don't speak touch this isn't as strong.

Different love languages:
Word of affirmation
Acts of service
Gifts
Quality time
Touch

This is something else entirely though

 

[Chase]

Klimax,

New thread in Tactics & Techniques for this:

"Play a Game" and Get Her Phone Turned Off

Hope it's useful.

Chase